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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 28 January 2007
Various big media television networks ^ | 28 January 2007 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 01/28/2007 5:05:56 AM PST by Alas Babylon!

The Talk Shows



Sunday, January 28th, 2007

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Sens. Sam Brownback, R-Kan., and Joe Lieberman, I-Conn.; Ellen Miller, executive director of the Sunlight Foundation.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee; Sens. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., and David Vitter, R-La.; former presidential speechwriter Michael Gerson; Kenneth Pollack, a Brookings Institution analyst.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Sens. Jim Webb, D-Va., Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., and Arlen Specter, R-Pa.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Sens. Joe Biden, D-Del., and Richard Lugar, R-Ind.; Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif.; actor Kevin Bacon.

LATE EDITION (CNN) : Sens. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., Christopher Dodd, D-Conn., Jon Kyl, R-Ariz.; former Maryland Lt. Gov. Michael Steele; Democratic strategist Donna Brazile.


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To: Alas Babylon!

John Kerry: some things never change

One of John Kerry's more notable characteristics is his tendency to "flip-flop," to change his position on an issue when it becomes convenient. It's also rather remarkable how he can rationalize it as not contradictory, but entirely consistent and logical and correct.

But in many other ways, Kerry is remarkably unchanging. In those ways, his fundamental character just shines through.

My superb colleague Kim yesterday talked about WHAT John Kerry did in Davos. As the site's resident New Englander, who's lived in the state next door to Kerry's home of record all my life, I thought I would give it some context and show that his actions are entirely typical for him -- and why he (as always) doesn't see why anyone would be upset with him.

As almost everything in his life does, it all goes back to Viet Nam. More specifically, to the 3 months John Kerry spent there, because nearly everything he's done since has been built on those three months.

After Kerry returned from Viet Nam, he threw himself into the anti-war movement. And, I think, he's always trying to relive those heady days, to recapture the time when he was the toast of the town.

There's an old tradition that's dying out here in America -- that politics ends at the water's edge. We fight and squabble and bicker among ourselves, but we keep the arguments "at home" -- we don't duke it out in public, out on the world stage. We keep our disagreements within our borders, and don't take it to other countries. It's a good tradition, and I think we're poorer for it.

In 1970, John Kerry was discharged from active duty in the United States Navy and entered the Naval Reserve. Later that year, he travelled to Paris and met with the leadership of the Viet Cong's political wing (there for official negotiations with the United States). Those contacts helped him win a role in crafting "The People's Peace Treaty," a pie-in-the-sky fantasy Kerry and others "negotiated" with the Viet Cong and then tried to push on the United States government. This was not only a violation of the Logan Act, which forbids private citizens from intervening in foreign policy by negotiating with foreign governments, but a serious violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, which Kerry (as a Naval Reserve officer) was bound by.

Now, in 2007, Kerry (currently a United States Senator) has attended a world economic summit in Switzerland and denounced the actions of the United States.

In 1971, Lt. John F. Kerry (USNR) testified before Congress about the Viet Nam war. He said that American troops. Quoting other soldiers, Kerry said that

"(T)hey had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war."

Kerry also said he had committed war crimes, specifically participating in "free fire" zones.

Many of those whom Kerry quoted were later exposed as liars and frauds. He, in effect, was using his standing and credibility to give credence to their frauds.

In 2007, in Davos, Switzerland, Kerry denounced the Bush administration's opposition to the Kyoto Accords on greenhouse gas emissions. Here, Kerry is using his "credibility" as a United States Senator and presidential nominee (who just barely lost in 2004) to give cover to those who choose to rewrite history.

Yes, President Bush has opposed the Kyoto Accord. He did so when he was first running, and he hasn't changed his position since. But what does that really mean?

Not a hell of a lot.

The Kyoto Accord first came up for approval in 1998. And as the United States Constitution requires of all treaties, it must be ratified by the United States Senate. At that time, President Clinton opposed it, citing that far too many developing countries were specifically excluded from its mandates. President Clinton directed Vice President Al Gore to sign it on behalf of the United States, but purely as a symbolic act -- he did not want to commit the US to it until it covered all nations, developing as well as industrialized.

At the same time, the Senate passed a measure (co-sponsored by Robert Byrd (D-WV) and Chuck Hagel (R-NE) stating the Senate's opposition to Kyoto as written. The measure was utterly meaningless, as President Clinton never submitted the treaty for formal approval, but it was a clear indicator that the Senate did NOT like it. The resolution passed with 95 votes in favor, five abstentions, and zero votes supporting the Kyoto Accord.

Not even John Kerry's.

Finally, Kerry lambasted President Bush's efforts to fight AIDS and other diseases in Africa. Apparently the good senator has not been informed that Bush has directed the spending of a great deal of money on just that problem -- not only several times more than President Clinton did, not only far more than any other president, but quite possibly more than EVERY other president. What's more, it's not just "throwing money at the problem" -- it's getting results.

A while ago, I wrote a piece wondering why the hell the United States should do anything -- anything at all -- for Africa, and came up with a sound reason, one firmly rooted in enlightened self-interest. It's comforting to see that the Bush administration agrees with me.

If I had the time and resources to investigate it, I would like to see just how that funding got through Congress -- and how Senator Kerry voted on the measure. The cynic in me wonders he didn't remember it because the bill came up while he was running for president, and missing over 80% of Senate roll-call votes.

Glenn Reynolds, He Who Needs No Linkage, opined: "Like Jimmy Carter, he'll never forgive America for rejecting him, and he'll console himself with the approval of America's enemies."

It's a great observation, and I think it applies quite nicely to Carter. But I don't think it's what's behind Kerry -- or, at least, to a great extent. Kerry's behavior is entirely consistent with his actions dating back over 35 years.

http://wizbangblog.com/2007/01/28/john-kerry-some-things-never-change.php


141 posted on 01/28/2007 7:07:48 AM PST by AliVeritas (Stop Global Dhimming. Demand testicular fortitude from the hill. Call the crusade.)
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To: anita

The McCain-Kerry hearings on Vietnam POWs resulted in their conclusion that there were no more POWs to recover and their destruction or burying of the committee's record of the hearings (not sure which...do you know?). Despicable and cavalier treatment of the grieving families imo.


142 posted on 01/28/2007 7:08:11 AM PST by Carolinamom (Whatever you voted for, you did not vote for failure -- President Bush SOTU)
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To: Carolinamom

WHat is he can't win?


143 posted on 01/28/2007 7:08:24 AM PST by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: rodguy911

That should read "What "if" he cant win?"


144 posted on 01/28/2007 7:09:15 AM PST by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Morning AB, All...

Right now I need Snugs. I am making her Red Velvet cake and I want to make sure I am using the right kind of sugar.

I'm not sure what "caster" sugar is although the recipe Snugs gave me does also say GRANULATED. Well I know what that is.

We have something called CONFECTIONERS sugar over here in the states. Should I be using THIS kind of sugar for the icing? CONFECTIONERS is a real powdery sugar, not grainy like granulated. Usually frosting is made with CONFECTIONERS sugar so this is why I am asking.

This is a bit of an emergency here...get your priorities right.

Oh, and I got wild and way out stories about my "controversial" submission to the Sussex county GOP women's newsletter.

Oh, and then there's the attack of the Bichon Frise...I'm not making this up.

For now, the Red Velvet Cake looms.


145 posted on 01/28/2007 7:09:48 AM PST by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com)
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To: rodguy911

My pleasure, Rod.


146 posted on 01/28/2007 7:10:14 AM PST by anita
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To: rodguy911

?


147 posted on 01/28/2007 7:10:31 AM PST by Carolinamom (Whatever you voted for, you did not vote for failure -- President Bush SOTU)
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To: TomGuy
Bill won't have time!!!!!

So many sinks... so little time.

148 posted on 01/28/2007 7:11:08 AM PST by johnny7 ("We took a hell of a beating." -'Vinegar Joe' Stilwell)
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To: snugs
Hilliary goes beyond party politics or even personal political views IMHO she is pure evil and pure evil needs to be stopped.

Can't use a cross. That's un-PC any more. Maybe wolfsbane and garlic. lol
149 posted on 01/28/2007 7:11:43 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Morgan in Denver
Not holding my breath for that to happen,it would not promote the msm agenda.
150 posted on 01/28/2007 7:12:00 AM PST by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Did anyone mention Winken Blinken and Nod's trip to Iraq yet?

(for those in Rio Linda, Pelosi and Murtha)


151 posted on 01/28/2007 7:12:10 AM PST by AliVeritas (Stop Global Dhimming. Demand testicular fortitude from the hill. Call the crusade.)
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To: All

Andrea Mitchell, the human bobble-head doll, is sitting in for Chris this week. The panel was just braying about how Cheney is pulling the strings and Bush won't do anything differently unless the VP says to do so. Their schtick is getting so played out......


152 posted on 01/28/2007 7:12:41 AM PST by edpc (The pen is mightier than the sword......until you fight someone.)
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To: Carolinamom

Right, and the recent 9/11 commission. Why equal treatment for dems when they were in clear minority & I forgot his abu ghraib shoutings on Rumsfeld.


153 posted on 01/28/2007 7:13:07 AM PST by anita
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To: MNJohnnie

Agreed, and already signed up.


154 posted on 01/28/2007 7:13:30 AM PST by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: rodguy911

NOW I understand....I should have also added 'capabel of winning' to my criterion of being 'passionate about defending...."


155 posted on 01/28/2007 7:13:51 AM PST by Carolinamom (Whatever you voted for, you did not vote for failure -- President Bush SOTU)
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To: rodguy911


Rodguy, did you see this on powerline? http://www.powerlineblog.com/

really made me think about how powerful this MSM technique is.

Grim Milestones

At the Forum, people are talking about a statistic that has been kicking around for a while: illegal aliens murder approximately 12 Americans a day. Is this accurate? I'm not sure; this isn't a statistic that is officially kept, so estimates are based on more informal surveys. The number seems to have been popularized by Congressman Steve King.

While I'm not sure that it's right, the 12 per day figure is plausible. There are 16,000+ murders a year in the U.S., so, if my math is correct, that number implies that, if there are around ten million illegal aliens, they commit about ten times their pro rata share of murders.

Twelve per day works out to 4,380 a year, or around 16,600 during the time that has elapsed since we have been engaged in Iraq. This is more than five times the number of military deaths in Iraq.

My point here is not to argue for the accuracy of Representative King's numbers, but rather to note how discretionary the concept of a "grim milestone" is. If the mainstream media kept a "grim milestone" count on murders of Americans by illegal aliens, imagine how it would re-frame the debate over illegal immigration. But the media have no interest in that particular set of "milestones." What constitutes a "milestone" depends not on the actual magnitude of the issue, but rather on the political agenda of the mainstream media.


156 posted on 01/28/2007 7:14:01 AM PST by sgtyork (Prove to us that you can enforce the borders first)
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To: Morgan in Denver

Thanks! I will suggest those. Google brings up our FR Alas, and a lot of lefty sites. I told him that Google is biased itself, and he would need to look near the end of sites suggested.


157 posted on 01/28/2007 7:14:03 AM PST by mathluv (Never Forget!)
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To: johnny7

If anyone has an inkling of a desire to support Brownback, watch his poor performance on FNC this morning.

The issue of consistency on the pro-life issue is a non-starter, imho. Many of us have been brought into the pro-life camp. Do we have no place at the table because we once held a misguided position.


158 posted on 01/28/2007 7:14:28 AM PST by Bahbah (.Regev, Goldwasser & Shalit, we are praying for you.)
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To: MNJohnnie
I am and I have,he is very impressive. But remember I am severely myopic. I have but one goal, to keep Hillary out at any cost. Nothing will get in the way of that.
159 posted on 01/28/2007 7:15:17 AM PST by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: Fishtalk
Caster sugar is fine granulated not powdered or confectioners sugar which we call icing sugar.

Either granulated or fine granulated will work though IMHO finer sugar is preferable to very course granulated. The cheaper granulated in Britain tends to have larger particles than the more expensive brands maybe that is the same in the US.
160 posted on 01/28/2007 7:15:32 AM PST by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - Big Time))
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