Posted on 01/25/2007 10:01:40 AM PST by EveningStar
We hear all sorts of solutions for ending illegal immigration. Build a wall! Beef up border security! Fine employers, and create a massive guest-worker program. Or America could insist on tamper-proof identification cards, or detention, deportation or even amnesty for some illegal aliens -- or all of these measures somehow combined.
But ultimately the solution lies in the hope that a Tijuana might become as prosperous as a San Diego -- now a few miles away but a world apart...
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In retaliation for the mafiaesque tactics of the Mexican elite, we need to support democratic revolution in Mexico.
Telling the truth about Mexico in our dealings with Mexicans will support genuine liberation movements in that country.
Every illegal caught should be subjected to a lecture on the corruption and tyranny of the Mexican government.
Problem is, they'll all vote 'rat. I'm for annexation, but not admission as states, at least not right away, and no citizenship for the people there, until our own citizens are inter-settled among them and they petition for statehood. This would probably take a generation or two.
Countries based on family loyalty "connections" rather than the rule of law are always poorer.
That's not going to change easily.
To complicate it, "family" based cultures have too many children - furthering their long term desperation.
Mexico, Iran, etc are prime examples.
Countries based on family loyalty "connections" rather than the rule of law are always poorer.
That's not going to change easily.
To complicate it, "family" based cultures have too many children - furthering long term desperation.
Mexico and Iran are prime examples.
Can't help but think that the present policy on illegals has a lot to do with dodging a bullet in the last mexican presidential election.
I would add to your post that countries based on "caste" systems are always poorer. Mexico's caste system at one time had as many as 100 complex classifications. This now "unofficial" system is still determining who comes to the U.S. illegally.
Illegal immigration will never end as long as there are liberals in congress. These bleeding heart loonies are the cause of every woe that the country has.
Why not do both? Use the fine money to finance the enforcement effort.
And the managers can pay for their own attorneys -- their compensation committees have been good enough to them at bonus time, they should all be able to afford Plato Cacheris and "Uncle Bob" Bennett.
Are you referring to the business about all those names for different ethnic admixtures? Terms like cholo, jibaro, tente en el aire, salta atras, pardo, negro fino (same as pardo, I think -- what was called, in English, "griff"), cuatrero, ochavado ("octoroon"), chino, albino, criollo, mestizo, and all the rest?
I have formed an exploratory committee to investigate the possibility of making a run at the Presidency in 2008, my platform of course will be ending illegal entry into the US across our SW border.
I propose a plan that will incorporate illegal aliens into the solution to ending illegal entry into the US.
Round up illegal aliens daily and make them watch the borders for border jumpers, for every one they catch, they get one more day's stay in the US, for every alien that gets by them, one of the watchers gets thrown back across the border.
Yes, exactly. "Salta atras" is always one I get a kick out of. Although, even in my family, just 2 generations ago, it was known who was criollo, who was mestizo, who was castizo, etc.
It will end when we are a third world country and broke to boot.
Because it isn't the company hiring the illegals, it's the management. Workers, suppliers, and even consumers are the only ones that will be hurt by fining the company itself.
You're right. Caste systems are classic examples of cultures based on short term benefits that lead to long term disasters. Cultural addiction paradigm...
I found a list of "classifications" that were used in the 16th-19th centuries on baptismal certificates (the Church was in charge of these documents, one of the many reasons the 1919 revolucionarios were so anticlerical), and I found castizo on that list.
There are some other terms that are current, like melote and marron, that were not on the list and may not have been current before this century, or whenever the list became "canonical".
Someone marron might have been called jibaro/jabaro, lobo, or chino or some other term, "back in the day," depending on the degrees of admixture.
Melote means "black" and is from Late Greek, I think. The classical Greek word was melas, to which would have been given the adjectival ending -otes (as in "patriot", "idiot", "zealot", and a few other words ending, in English, in "-ot") to yield a koine (New Testament/Roman Era Greek) and/or Late Greek word that would have been borrowed by Old Spanish, or inherited by it from the post-Late Latin "lingua rustica Romana".
My homebrew etymology, anyway.
bump for later reading
And make it a reality show. :)
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