HUNT BLAMES JFK HIT ON LBJ

the New York POST ^ | January 14, 2007 | staff

[archy]

Only the most far-out conspiracy theorists believe in scenarios like Hunt's. But in a new memoir, "American Spy: My Secret History in the CIA, Watergate & Beyond," due out in April, Hunt, 88, writes: "Having Kennedy liquidated, thus elevating himself to the presidency without having to work for it himself, could have been a very tempting and logical move on Johnson's part.

"LBJ had the money and the connections to manipulate the scenario in Dallas and is on record as having convinced JFK to make the appearance in the first place. He further tried unsuccessfully to engineer the passengers of each vehicle, trying to get his good buddy, Gov. [John] Connolly, to ride with him instead of in JFK's car - where . . . he would have been out of danger."

[supremedoctrine]

#226---Indeed---just one of a thousand troubling contradictions or inconsistencies. Another one is "why would Oswald (or anyone for that matter) choose to shoot a President of the United States FROM HIS PLACE OF WORK????
I guess the assumption was the Oswald was just unbelievably lazy, and that just proves what a creep he was, an assassin that couldn't even be troubled to go to someone ELSE's building to shoot the President. The matter of the crummy Mannlicher Carcano, is another interesting factoid. Everyone knows Oswald was an FBI informant: one of the things he did for them was see how easy it was for a regular citizen to just order and receive a gun by mail.
Oswald used a fake name, as per instructions, and received the rifle from Klein's Sporting Goods in Chicago.

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bookmark.

[DejaJude]

You're right, I didn't see the joke. Anyway, what I said in #190 is, "Our children won't care and by that time it will be nothing more than a side-note to history." Didn't say WE won't care. I will always be fascinated by the whole thing. But my 18-year-old son couldn't care any less than he does.

My sons are in their 30's with children of their own. They would care. Your son is young, but there is hope that as he matures he will search out the truth. I have always suspected it was a Castro/Mob connection, with Oswald being the useful idiot. Makes more sense to me than other theories floated.

[HANG THE EXPENSE]

I dont think you know a damn thing about weapons.Bolt action rifle,that many shots, that fast,out of wack scope? Not a chance in hell.

[vetvetdoug]

Billie Sol Estes may have much to add to the criminality of LBJ. Estes used much of the money he made from his agricultural scams for LBJ's election funds. LBJ knew Estes and leaned heavily upon him for funding for the 1960 election. When Estes became a liability for the 1964 election for LBJ, Johnson provided a lawyer for Estes that just about sold him down the river, all the time telling Estes that he would be rewarded for his silence concerning his illegal money laundering toward LBJ. Estes feared LBJ and just about said that if he were to mention any of his dealings with the Johnsons, he would be a dead man.

[HANG THE EXPENSE]

Well, thats what they want you think and it sounds like you bought it all.

[GourmetDan]

"I always wondered that if somebody had used oswald as a "lone nut shooter" why not arm him with a more modern rifle/scope combo rather than that relic carcano rhat was found? (to the layman it would have made the shooting more believable and easier for them/us to swallow the "lone gunman" theory that possible conspirators would have wanted."

I think you overestimate the 'layman'.

The 'layman' did buy into the "lone nut shooter" precisely because all they see is a rifle with a scope and don't know the diff.

Besides, the government looked into it and the news said Oswald did it.

You some kind of kook or somethin?

[HANG THE EXPENSE]

Ding,ding,ding we have a winner! Im sure if oswald was the real shooter he would have used an m-14. Not that piece of junk.

[KC Burke]

Oh, I don't doubt that Lyndon could have had his people find a guy who would do one of his other people...I just doubt that he would have done Jacko...he was awed by Jacko and Jacko's dad and Jacko's money

The whole issue of his wife's ownership of the media interests was still a sham...

[Ghengis]

Including my uncle, a Secret Service agent who was there that day.

He was never asked to testify to anything he knew, saw, or believed to the Warren Commission or to the later Senate investigation.

Can you share a bit?

[Tribune7]

And if you want to consider something really weird, the president of South Vietanam was assassinated the same month at JFK.

[investigateworld]

I don't know nut'n, but I've seen the Z-Movie where Jackie is scrambling over the rear trunk lid trying to pick up something.

Any clue what she was trying to get?

[BILL_C]

"A man called Lyndon" right after the JFK assassination..

One of the FREEPERS recomended a story A TEXAN LOOKS AT LYNDON that was written in the 1960's before the assassination.

I read some of it and the most explosive claim in the book was that JFK's father bought off LBJ. LBJ took the VP and stopped fighting for the nomination for what I think I remember was $1/2 million. That notion jumped out at me because I remember reading back a while that when JFK came back from a meeting during the fight for nomination and told Robert Kennedy that LBJ was going to be the VP, Robert Kennedy could't believe it......

I don't know if there's any validity about Kennedy buying off LBJ but it's pretty obvious now that LBJ was the power behind the assassination.

[supremedoctrine]

It is generally understood she was frantically, and illogically, trying to retrieve pieces of her husband's skull and brains. Of course that seems to make no sense, but consider how your brain might be working if your spouse just had his head nearly blown off right next to you, in a moving car, yet.

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[MarkL]

HUNT BLAMES JFK HIT ON LBJ

I thought it was Greenspan and the Fed.

No, no, no, NO!!!!

Everybody sing along!

BUSH'S FAULT!!!!

Mark

[Iwo Jima]

Self ping.

[BILL_C]

I believe his late wife, Nellie, expressed doubts about the Warren report herself shortly before her death recently.

Nellie Connally did NOT express doubts, she stated clearly that the first bullet that hit JFK did NOT hit John Connally. That quote was made on Nov 22, 2003 on the Larry King Live show. Nellie went on to ask if a bullet could hang in midair because she saw JFK wounded by the first shot and then John Connally turn first to his right. She says he turned to his left and then as he was facing forward he was hit in the back.

Actually, every one of the witnesses got some it wrong. Five shots fired in eight seconds is a lot for the brain to process. What she really got right was that John Connally turned to look over his left shoulder, he never got to turn and look over his right shoulder as he was hit in the back as he was turning.

Look at how John Connally describes how he was shot in the link:

"John Connally describes how he is driven forward as the bullet hits him in the back"

Connally says he turned to look over his right shoulder, he was turning back to look over his left shoulder when he was hit, the bullet drove him forward....

We don't see him driven forward until he is turning, this is at Zframe 325, the point the bullet fired from the TSBD, drives Connally forward where he collapses forward and into his wife's lap to the left of him.

So WHY did the shooter in the Texas School Book Depository miss? Simply because the bullet to JFK's head 0.7 seconds earlier at Zframe 313 knocked him out of the way. The bullet missed JFK's head and hit Connally in the back.

"Explaining John Connally's wounds, an explanation I posted on FreeRepublic a few months ago"

Pretty simple, isn't it? The reason the geniuses posing as investigators (many of them doctors and lawyers who simply don't understand even the simplest of physics) got fooled into believing the magic bullet theory is that you have to explain all the other wounds in the seconds up to Z=325. With the FBI destroying and altering evidence at the direction of J. Edgar Hoover, it takes a little digging to find out what happened earlier. So instead of looking for a possible scenario, they believed a clown like Arlen Specter and the impossible.

1960's technology can't stand up to today's technology, you can look at things much closer than "they" ever imagined. You might now begin to understand WHY LBJ sealed all this stuff up until everyone is dead. You do know that The Records Review Act in the 1990's released SOME stuff, but not all of it. Some is still locked up.

It's simply too hot to handle, even today. A coup in the United States in 1963, the VP kills Kennedy and the idiots in the media are still trying to sell us a fairy tale.

Still have doubts?

Look at this letter found in government files in the late 1990's, a letter from Nixon's office saying Jack Ruby is performing iformation functions for Nixon's staff and should not be called for open testimony? Come on, the Warren Commission told us that Ruby was a nobody but the future VP and later the President knew Ruby 16 years before JFK was killed. Nixon was in Dallas on Nov 22, 1963 and the night before was a "party" with Nixon, LBJ, Hoover and other powerful people to put the final seal of approval on JFK's murder the next day.

People like Possner and Gary Mack say it didn't happen but there are too many witnesses not to believe that LBJ, Nixon and Hoover were there.

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[.44 Special]

Exactly.

The coverup theory to explain this is that the mass from a rear skull shot blown out of the front acted as a jet effect to propel the head backwards; contradictory to the film evidence that shows the ejecta exiting from the rear!

In the scenarario where a bullet strikes the skull primary transfer of energy occurs as the bullet strikes the skull and bores through the bone moving the head in the same direction of the bullet.

Secondary transferance occurs as a pressure wave in front of the bullet as the bullet moves through the brain mass and the pressure is deflected on the opposite site of the skull, again moving the skull in the direction of the bullet.

Tertiary transferance occurs as the bullet strikes the inside of the skull, the risidual pressure assists in rupturing the surrounding bone and the ejecta (ejected mass) follows the bullet out of the skull, again moving the skull in the direction of the bullet.

Back and to the left, back and to the left... The bullet come from the right front, the ejecta went left and to the rear. That is why Jackie was able to pick up pieces of the skull of the trunk lid of the car.

I have shot many different types of liquid filled objects from from stands and never did they come fowrd toward the shooter. The ejecta and the object always follow the path of the bullet.

[.44 Special]

Exactly.

The coverup theory to explain this is that the mass from a rear skull shot blown out of the front acted as a jet effect to propel the head backwards; contradictory to the film evidence that shows the ejecta exiting from the rear!

In the scenarario where a bullet strikes the skull primary transfer of energy occurs as the bullet strikes the skull and bores through the bone moving the head in the same direction of the bullet.

Secondary transferance occurs as a pressure wave in front of the bullet as the bullet moves through the brain mass and the pressure is deflected on the opposite site of the skull, again moving the skull in the direction of the bullet.

Tertiary transferance occurs as the bullet strikes the inside of the skull, the risidual pressure assists in rupturing the surrounding bone and the ejecta (ejected mass) follows the bullet out of the skull, again moving the skull in the direction of the bullet.

Back and to the left, back and to the left... The bullet come from the right front, the ejecta went left and to the rear. That is why Jackie was able to pick up pieces of the skull of the trunk lid of the car.

I have shot many different types of liquid filled objects from from stands and never did they come fowrd toward the shooter. The ejecta and the object always follow the path of the bullet.