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Toyota to recall 533,000 SUVs, trucks
CNNMoney.com ^ | 1/19/2007 | Reuters

Posted on 01/19/2007 6:14:25 AM PST by eraser2005

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Yet another Toyota recall...
1 posted on 01/19/2007 6:14:27 AM PST by eraser2005
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To: eraser2005

Good. I hate Japanese cars.

Great story in 'Fast Times' (December, 2006) about quality philosophy at Toyota, and specifically the Georgetown, KY plant. It paints a picture of a relentless search for continuous quality improvement, as almost a cult like religion. It didn't convince me. I found it impossible to believe that every day Toyota workers are so inspired, just didn't seem in parallel with human nature.


2 posted on 01/19/2007 6:28:56 AM PST by Made In The USA (Bacon is infidelicious)
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To: Made In The USA
Good. I hate Japanese cars.

These were made in Indiana.

3 posted on 01/19/2007 6:32:55 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: raybbr

and the money went to Japan!


4 posted on 01/19/2007 6:44:06 AM PST by tiger63
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To: eraser2005
Toyota often announces a 'recall' even if no one has complained. Toyota wants really good cars out there. And they have earned a superb reputation.

I do not own a Toyota but would NEVER buy a car from a company who knows of a deadly problem - the Pinto gas tank comes to mind - and compares the cost of the fix to the estimated claims from the problem if they don't fix it.

Ford Lied - People Died

Bravo Toyota!
5 posted on 01/19/2007 6:44:46 AM PST by Leo Farnsworth
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To: Leo Farnsworth

"Toyota often announces a 'recall' even if no one has complained"

Where's that graphic of the BS meter when you need it?


6 posted on 01/19/2007 6:46:46 AM PST by eraser2005
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To: tiger63

The salaries went to Americans as does money for parts and services.


7 posted on 01/19/2007 6:48:03 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: tiger63

"...and the money went to Japan!"

Are there Japanese workers at these plants? Do these employees send their children to school in Japan?

I guess what you mean is the PROFITS go to a Japanese company. OOOOOHHH. That's EVIL!


8 posted on 01/19/2007 6:48:18 AM PST by Leo Farnsworth
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To: Leo Farnsworth

Yep. Ford never calculated the immense cost of a bad reputation.


9 posted on 01/19/2007 6:49:32 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: tiger63

The parts in question were made by an American company (Federal-Mogul) and installed in an Indiana plant by Americans. 60-some percent of the price of the car stayed in the US and served to keep American jobs going.

If you buy a GM, most of your money goes to Mexico or Canada. It does not stay here. It does not employ many Americans, and in fact, the little that did go to Detroit probably left for GM's China ventures shortly thereafter.

FYI - do you know what the #1 nationality of Toyota stockholders is?


10 posted on 01/19/2007 6:50:05 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: eraser2005

"...Where's that graphic of the BS meter when you need it?"

It's common industry knowledge.

Really.

Ford Lied - People Died


11 posted on 01/19/2007 6:50:12 AM PST by Leo Farnsworth
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To: Leo Farnsworth

Let's not forget an even more recent example - the Ford truck cruise control fires - where people have ACTUALLY died, and houses have ACTUALLY burned down, and Ford still didn't start recalling trucks until a lawsuit was threatened.


12 posted on 01/19/2007 6:51:12 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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Six injuries and 11 accidents were reported as a result of the defect, Japan's top automaker said Friday.

Should read:

Six injuries, 11 accidents, and 17 lawsuits were reported as a result of the defect, Japan's top automaker said Friday.

13 posted on 01/19/2007 6:51:58 AM PST by Fresh Wind (All we are sa-a-a-ying, is give Beast a chance.)
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Actually, unlike Ford, Toyota usually starts a recall before lawsuits are in the air.


14 posted on 01/19/2007 6:52:45 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Leo Farnsworth
My '92 Toyota 4X4 truck was recalled for a faulty steering rod or something 2 yrs. ago. I was reluctant since there was only 2 or so cases of bad steering reported in how many millions produced let alone abused off-road. I had the truck at the dealer for some other service so I had them do the recall. What a difference it made! 175,000 miles and it drives like a new truck. I'm waiting for Toyota to put a diesel in their new Tundra.
15 posted on 01/19/2007 6:57:41 AM PST by stevio (God, Guns, and Guts made America. A politician against any of the 3 doesn't get my vote. (NRA))
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To: Leo Farnsworth

What, it's common knowledge that Toyota recalls vehicles when no one has complained?

Then why the h*ll have there been multiple class action lawsuits forcing Toyota into action on the Toyota I have? What complete bull****....

And Toyota never calculates the cost of a proper repair? Why the heck did they recall 160,000 Tundras just six months ago and do the improper repair then? The law stated if they had airbag cutoff switches, they had to have child safety seat latches built-in. So they recalled the trucks and took OUT the cutoff switches rather than performing the more expensive repair of puting the latches in.

In other words, they must have determined that the cheaper repair of removing the switch was better, even though it directly made the seat much more dangerous for small children...


16 posted on 01/19/2007 6:58:22 AM PST by eraser2005
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"...the Pinto gas tank comes to mind"

Are you referring to the Ford Pinto with the exploding gas tank that they put the exploding Firestone 500 tires on? /s


17 posted on 01/19/2007 6:58:38 AM PST by cowtowney
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To: Spktyr

Complete BS...


18 posted on 01/19/2007 6:59:12 AM PST by eraser2005
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To: Fresh Wind
I've never seen a Tundra do this, have you?

And at the time, the cruise control fire was a known issue, yet this truck was not recalled.

Everyone in the auto industry makes mistakes. The difference between a lousy company and a good one (in this regard) is how they deal with it. And Ford is one of the worst in this regard. GM's not far behind (see "Cold Spark Knock" and their insistence that piston slap is "normal" and "acceptable"), and Chrysler isn't much better.

19 posted on 01/19/2007 6:59:52 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: eraser2005

I said usually, not always. It should also be pointed out that Toyota *usually* recalls more cars than they have to when there's a safety issue like this.

Also, Toyota *is* recalling this ahead of a NHTSA investigation getting started, which Ford and the rest of the domestic crowd *never* seem to do.


20 posted on 01/19/2007 7:01:48 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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