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LIVE THREAD: 60 Minutes Duke Lacrosse Case
www.freerepublic.com | January 14, 2007

Posted on 01/14/2007 4:25:09 PM PST by Howlin

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: dukelax
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To: tioga

A bit off the subject, but in the early part of the twentieth century, Israel Sack's (respected NYCity antique dealer)grandfather was a rag and bone man...he went around the city with a horse-drawn cart, collecting odds and ends tossed out of wealthy homes. People gave him their old, unfashionable furniture for pennies...much of this furniture ended up in museums! Chippendale, Queen Anne, Hepplewhite...so be careful what you get rid of!


481 posted on 01/15/2007 3:17:01 AM PST by hershey
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To: Jezebelle
Are you local, with some knowledge of those guys? I'm not following closely enough to have seen what all the local folks had to say about the guys appointed to step in, with Nifong's hasty exit.
482 posted on 01/15/2007 3:21:23 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Bitter Bierce

And we know the reason he didn't talk to her. He didn't want to have to act responsibly about her extreme inconsistencies. To interview her prior to the November election would force him to dismiss the charges, but he didn't want to because it would cost him black votes, the only solid voting block he could count on because they were salivating to see rich white boys sent to prison.

Refusing to interview Mangum or read the case file closely after getting the indictments would help him establish plausible deniability when the rubber met the road.


483 posted on 01/15/2007 3:25:09 AM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: kcvl

I remember reading that on the early threads back in April or May.


484 posted on 01/15/2007 3:26:01 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: sissyjane

I feel somewhat the same way. With the rats in control, it's going to get worse, too. They've only been in power two weeks and already I have to change the channel when Pelosi, Reid, Kennedy, Durbin, Leahy, and any of the rest of the usual suspects being interviewed or footage of them speaking is shown because the anger in me at their lies and efforts to destroy this country is more than I can deal with.


485 posted on 01/15/2007 3:35:36 AM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Bitter Bierce

The reason I believe Nifong never interviewed her was to be able to maintain deniability and continue the case. The last thing he wanted was to sit down with her and have her blurt out that it didn't happen.


486 posted on 01/15/2007 3:41:58 AM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: xoxoxox; Howlin

IIRC, Shelton said someone should check on the kids during the 911 call. It was released and the audio was on blueline(?) at one time "Someone should probably check on the young ones" something like that. It read and sounded as if she was known to them.

She also asked Brian Taylor to check on the kids according to the N&O article. He said he told her he would, but he did not.


487 posted on 01/15/2007 4:00:03 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Howlin
The RIGHT thing to do is to go through ALL the evidence and, if it warrants it, come out and tell the TRUTH -- that he had nothing, that they never should have been indicted and that she was lying. And to hell with the consequences

Yes, I concur. The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth will cut through this "damned spot".

488 posted on 01/15/2007 4:06:01 AM PST by Alia
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To: Alia

New thread, fresh information.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1767762/posts?page=1


489 posted on 01/15/2007 4:06:46 AM PST by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

Maybe not simply for deviating from state guidelines, but it would if the line-up was overly suggestive, which it was, imo.


490 posted on 01/15/2007 4:12:51 AM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: abb
Thank you, Abb.

I saw clips of the interview with the parents. I have keen respect for their presentation. We've been witnesses and investigators to a hoax which resembles a Stephen King flick. "Evil Come to Town". (I'm thinking Salem's Lot.) The parents, their sons, and their families have *lived* it.

It has changed them. They have walked amid a burning fire, and come out the other side, stronger.

Yes, there is a problem of racism in this country; but this case has shown it is not quite the case that racialists wish it to appear; and continue to make appear so.

The hoax was fed by the wishful propoganda of those who demand "reparations", legal lynchings, and easy money (aka: life on the cheap).

491 posted on 01/15/2007 4:19:14 AM PST by Alia
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To: freespirited
Adding to your bit of squat, you will also notice that depressives USE their illness as an excuse for just about everything.

I've nailed my brother a few times on it and he was told "loud and clear" that I knew his lies were deliberate and that he knew they were deliberate.

492 posted on 01/15/2007 4:20:00 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: OldFriend

The state bar MUST disbar him or forever relegate themselves to irrelevancy. They will not have even the ostensible trust of the people if they don't.

This is a chance for the state bar to act in such a way that restores a bit of public faith in them.


493 posted on 01/15/2007 4:21:19 AM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Howlin

There's another exerpt that more or less says that they knew they were dealing with Crystal. I still think this goes back to the guard at Kroger....that she knew who they were. We have heard little about the guard.


494 posted on 01/15/2007 4:23:52 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Jezebelle

I have a feeling that he was issued a subpoena by at least one of the defense attorneys. The idea that his office protects him from the same is invalid.


495 posted on 01/15/2007 4:32:13 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Jezebelle

Clearly justice has no place at the table in Durham.


496 posted on 01/15/2007 4:34:25 AM PST by OldFriend (THE PRESS IS AN EVIL FOR WHICH THERE IS NO REMEDY)
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To: Jezebelle

He said it out loud. He didn't interview her because he didn't want to wind up as a witness.


497 posted on 01/15/2007 4:34:57 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

I don't give any credence to what he says aloud.


498 posted on 01/15/2007 4:36:23 AM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Common Tator
Given the drumbeat of criticism of not only Ni-FOG but of everyone in his office, it would seem that everyone complicit in the deliberate withholding of evidence is subject to disbarrment as well.

Since when is a miscarriage of justice, as public as this case has become, gone unpunished?

499 posted on 01/15/2007 4:37:36 AM PST by OldFriend (THE PRESS IS AN EVIL FOR WHICH THERE IS NO REMEDY)
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To: southernnorthcarolina
Facts mean nothing to dems. Further, public sentiment in the liberal community is decidedly against the students. They don't care if they're innocent. They have committed the crime of being able to afford to attend Duke.

For that they must be punished.

My guess is that the new guy will be little better than Ni-FOG.

500 posted on 01/15/2007 4:44:25 AM PST by OldFriend (THE PRESS IS AN EVIL FOR WHICH THERE IS NO REMEDY)
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