[Sacajaweau]

Adding to your bit of squat, you will also notice that depressives USE their illness as an excuse for just about everything.

I've nailed my brother a few times on it and he was told "loud and clear" that I knew his lies were deliberate and that he knew they were deliberate.

[freespirited]

Adding to your bit of squat, you will also notice that depressives USE their illness as an excuse for just about everything. I've nailed my brother a few times on it and he was told "loud and clear" that I knew his lies were deliberate and that he knew they were deliberate.

How right you are. At times I have felt the manic-depressives I have known should be called manipulative-depressives instead.

[luv2ski]

Adding to your bit of squat, you will also notice that depressives USE their illness as an excuse for just about everything.

You may have personal experience with people who use depression as an excuse but it is not accurate to flatly state that all such individuals do this. I have personal experience with quite a few diagnosed clinically depressed people who do everything in their power to shield others from their pain. They NEVER use their disease as a crutch.