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1 posted on 01/05/2007 9:01:40 AM PST by Brian_Baldwin
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Both are libs and rino's, one's just more honest about it at the moment.


2 posted on 01/05/2007 9:05:49 AM PST by Rumple4
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The people have told Congress that they oppose amnesty but , neither side is listening. Republicans see cheap labor, dems see new voters.
Amnesty, I believe, will be a done deal by the next election so it will have little impact on what happens.


3 posted on 01/05/2007 9:07:28 AM PST by kalee (No burka for me....EVER!)
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Mitt Romney is against amnesty for illegal aliens. He wants to actually secure the borders, which is a security issue as well, and he seems to be on the right side of this issue.

Giuliani is not.

Now we're talking top 5 issues with me currently. Romney wins, Giuliani loses.

Romney still in the front for my vote. Not saying I won't change my mind later either by Romney doing something or another player stepping up to the plate but so far I can pretty much say Romney has my vote.

4 posted on 01/05/2007 9:11:02 AM PST by Domandred
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this issue was a factor in the 2006 results, negative to Republicans due to President Bush’s wrong stand in every regard on this issue

What evidence is there that a tough on immigration stance was a winner in '06?

5 posted on 01/05/2007 9:13:53 AM PST by My2Cents ("Friends stab you from the front." -- Oscar Wilde)
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FWIW...

The Mitt Romney Deception

And I will never vote for a pol the state of MA has elected to a state-wide office. That goes for my state of NY, too.

6 posted on 01/05/2007 9:14:44 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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7 posted on 01/05/2007 9:19:27 AM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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Mitt Romney is against amnesty for illegal aliens. He wants to actually secure the borders, which is a security issue as well, and he seems to be on the right side of this issue. Giuliani is not.

This is NOT TRUE about Rudy - I understand you prefer Mitt and he is your choice but that is untrue about Rudy.

Secure the borders,” said Rudy Giuliani when asked about the nation’s illegal immigration problems in Wilkes-Barre Sunday night. While calling for strong measures to secure the borders, the highly acclaimed former mayor of New York City said it is also important that a solution be reached that would prevent illegals presently in the country from going underground and becoming a serious threat to the welfare of the United States. He does not oppose people entering the country legally.

11 posted on 01/05/2007 9:27:26 AM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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FWIW, another Romney thread. More info at my reply #34.

The Tax Line In The Sand (Romney signs No Tax Pledge)

Folks trust a RINO at their peril.

12 posted on 01/05/2007 9:29:30 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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Both are from the northeast. I think we need someone from a border state who understands the problem. I'd love to see support for Tommy Franks. My ideal ticket would be Franks/Giuliani.


19 posted on 01/05/2007 9:54:42 AM PST by freeperfromnj
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20 posted on 01/05/2007 9:56:16 AM PST by GOP Poet
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No thanks to either of these guys.



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22 posted on 01/05/2007 9:58:38 AM PST by Antoninus ( Rudy McRomney as the GOP nominee = President Hillary. Why else do you think the media loves them?)
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You live in CA?

What is happening there in regards to illegals?

Have you considered running?


23 posted on 01/05/2007 10:00:18 AM PST by roses of sharon
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Question for you:

If Bush/McCain/Reid/Pelosi shove amnesty down our throats in 2007, isn't the issue then pretty much off the table?


26 posted on 01/05/2007 10:20:46 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Conservatism hasn't been tried and found wanting, it has been found wanting to be tried.)
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Bush obviously has no intention of doing much. The next President better, or we won't have much of a country in another decade or two:

New amnesty push likely in 07 by Bush, Dems
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On 01/04/2007 7:32:40 AM CST · 14 replies · 209+ views


Marietta Daily Journal ^ | Wednesday, January 3 | D.A. King
Five years into the war on terror, most Americans desperately hoped 2006 would be "the year" for solutions to the long national nightmare of intentionally unsecured borders and the resulting illegal immigration crisis. For many, the dream was that at a minimum, we would begin to see border security and immigration law enforcement similar to what Mexicans still living in Mexico enjoy. It didn't happen. According to a report released in late 2006 by the House Committee of Homeland Security, up to 10 million people entered the United States illegally and un-inspected last year. Georgia watched as its population of...

28 posted on 01/05/2007 10:32:07 AM PST by TomGuy
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I find illegal immigration to be a top issue for me as well. It is destroying our security, our schools, and our health care system. I have been following Romney since the elections and was glad he took a positive step to curtail illegal immigration by empowering Mass State Troopers to work with the Feds in picking up illegals in his state. His Democrat successor as governor wants to overturn the agreement that Romney signed. Message to me: Republicans want to do something about illegal immigration; Democrats do not.


31 posted on 01/05/2007 11:20:28 AM PST by circumbendibus
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With Bush and this congress, amnesty will be granted in 2007.


32 posted on 01/05/2007 11:37:51 AM PST by Uncledave
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I agree that employers and illegal immigrants should obey the law, but is the issue we want to stand on in 2008? Through Prop 187, Pete Wilson turned California from a reliably Republican state since its admission to the Union in 1850 to a certain 55 electoral votes for the Democrats. Bush won the 2004 Presidential election in part because he polled 44% of the Hispanic vote. If he had polled Dole's abysmal 21% (in 1996), he would have lost.

Republicans have just had their clocks cleaned at the polls. Basically, we can run on social issues which divide us and lose, or we can run on the economic and national security issues that unite us, and have a reasonable chance to win.

After every election loss, the tendency is for idealogues to take over the party, transforming a single loss into a generation out of power. I don't want Hillary Clinton or Nancy Pelosi to set the nation's agenda. I want to win. As a party, we've written off women, Catholics, African-Americans, Jews, and Muslims. If we allow Democrats to poll 80% of the Hispanic vote, we'll go the way of the Federalists and Whigs.




We need legal immigration, quite simply because the American-born population is not replacing itself. If Congress is unwilling to create a guest worker program, we're going to have illegal immigration program -- if the U.S. economy remains strong.







45 posted on 01/05/2007 5:39:47 PM PST by Man of the Right
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BUMP!!!


65 posted on 01/05/2007 7:48:02 PM PST by Nancee ((Nancee Lynn Cheney))
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It doesn't matter. By time the 08 elections get here, Bush and his socialist supporters in the Nanny People's House will have made them all legal, so it will not matter anyway.


74 posted on 01/06/2007 7:09:29 AM PST by RetiredArmy (I don't march to other people's opinion of me or my beliefs. I march to my beliefs and heart.)
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I can't support either one. We need a conservative.


81 posted on 01/06/2007 8:15:22 AM PST by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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