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Middle School Girls Gone Wild
New York Times ^ | 29 December 2006 | LAWRENCE DOWNES

Posted on 12/30/2006 7:27:56 PM PST by shrinkermd

It’s hard to write this without sounding like a prig. But it’s just as hard to erase the images that planted the idea for this essay, so here goes. The scene is a middle school auditorium, where girls in teams of three or four are bopping to pop songs at a student talent show. Not bopping, actually, but doing elaborately choreographed re-creations of music videos, in tiny skirts or tight shorts, with bare bellies, rouged cheeks and glittery eyes.

They writhe and strut, shake their bottoms, splay their legs, thrust their chests out and in and out again. Some straddle empty chairs, like lap dancers without laps. They don’t smile much. Their faces are locked from grim exertion, from all that leaping up and lying down without poles to hold onto. “Don’t stop don’t stop,” sings Janet Jackson, all whispery. “Jerk it like you’re making it choke. ...Ohh. I’m so stimulated. Feel so X-rated.” The girls spend a lot of time lying on the floor. They are in the sixth, seventh and eighth grades.

As each routine ends, parents and siblings cheer, whistle and applaud. I just sit there, not fully comprehending. It’s my first suburban Long Island middle school talent show. I’m with my daughter, who is 10 and hadn’t warned me. I’m not sure what I had expected, but it wasn’t this. It was something different. Something younger. Something that didn’t make the girls look so ... one-dimensional.

It would be easy to chalk it up to adolescent rebellion, an ancient and necessary phenomenon, except these girls were barely adolescents and they had nothing to rebel against. This was an official function at a public school, a milieu that in another time or universe might have seen children singing folk ballads, say, or reciting the Gettysburg Address.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: culturewar; dancing; education; girls; indoctrination; middleschool; moralabsolutes; publikskoolz; schools; sex; sexualizingchildren; teensex
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To: keats5
I speak with confidence and don't overexplain my reasons or try to negotiate. They actually listen, as though they expect me to take charge. It works.

Well said. And good for you.

81 posted on 12/30/2006 9:43:51 PM PST by daybreakcoming
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To: RonF
it is often difficult to find decent clothing in the mall stores.

Too many parents use this excuse. There ARE stores that carry cute clothes for girls that are NOT slut-wear, but the parents don't bother shopping there. They're worried their little darlings will be ostracized by the alpha-bitch of the school

82 posted on 12/30/2006 9:46:13 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Lucas McCain

If a woman sets out to arouse a man, and then gets raped, yes it's rape and rape is always wrong. But to suggest her behavior did not contribute is dumb.


It goes a little beyond that. If a woman sets out to arouse a man to prove the power she has over him it may contribute to his showing her her limits in a like manner.
Of course the rapist should be severely punished and yes even whores like the princess in the Nifong case can be raped.


83 posted on 12/30/2006 9:48:27 PM PST by freedomfiter2
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To: bobby.223; donmeaker
Hugh Beaumont, aka Ward Cleaver, was NOT gay. You may be thinking of Robert Reid, the dad on the Brady Bunch, who supposedly was gay.
84 posted on 12/30/2006 9:53:07 PM PST by Albion Wilde (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. -2 Cor 3:17)
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To: freedomfiter2

I graduated in 1988, so Im not THAT old (kidding!!!) and the big controversy my senior year was, the prom committee wanted to use the Bon Jovi song, "Never Say Goodbye" as our prom theme, and we werent allowed to because it contained the lyric "remember when we lost the keys and you lost more than that in my backseat" I dont remember any parents or members of the staff supporting the prom committee's choice of song. This was in a public school in a New York City suburb. So I really think this is a generational thing and not a public vs private school thing.


85 posted on 12/30/2006 9:56:46 PM PST by a_dem_no_more
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To: John Williams

Ginsberg of the subpremes is actually on record as all for it!


86 posted on 12/30/2006 9:57:38 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: hosepipe
RAPE is not an option if even the girls were stark nekid bumping and grinding.. no matter the age of the raper.. and even a teenager would not do it unless he would do it ANYWAY..

I take issue with your statement. I find it completely reasonable for teenage boys, even the best of them, to be extremely confused by the behavior of girls such as described.
87 posted on 12/30/2006 10:03:15 PM PST by Shion (Bring Back John Galt)
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To: keats5
Parents have been sold bill of goods that they have to "choose their fights" and only prohibit the most outlandish behavior while letting little things slide. Parents have to be parents of the little things before kids will listen about the big things.

Amen. We fight the little fights. The big ones don't even come up very often. E.G. disobedience is disobedience. We don't distinguish disobeying about keeping your voice down and something more serious. The problem is disobedience, not the particular acts that comprise it.

88 posted on 12/30/2006 10:09:03 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: shrinkermd
This was an official function at a public school

Public school? Enough said. Parents who care, and who are able, don't send their kids to government schools.

89 posted on 12/30/2006 10:09:13 PM PST by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: shrinkermd

90 posted on 12/30/2006 10:14:50 PM PST by BJungNan
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To: Shion

I take issue with your statement. I find it completely reasonable for teenage boys, even the best of them, to be extremely confused by the behavior of girls such as described.


Don't we call it sexual harassment when boys act out in such overt ways?


91 posted on 12/30/2006 10:21:12 PM PST by freedomfiter2
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To: Caesar Soze
Perhaps I'm misreading this. It looks like you're saying that being aroused is an excuse for rape. Most people have roundly rejected the They-Were-Asking-For-It Defense, whether it applies to rape or any other violent crime. Besides, teenaged boys are aroused all the time.

I think you were misreading it. This issue comes up in our church when, on occasion, teenage girls have spoken to the congregation about their mission trip in wildly inappropriate clothing (and we're a come-as-you-are church). When men have objected, the response from the women has roughly translated been, "that's your problem." Nope. It's our problem. The girls dress like that for a purpose. Then whine that it's someone else's problem when they succeed. They want the benefits of deliberately arousing men without any of the downsides. And it doesn't work that way.

The reality is males are on a bell curve in appropriate responses to arousal. Girls who strut around half naked frequently enough will eventually encounter one of the 99.9 percenters on the inappropriate response bell curve on a bad night. Does that make the response appropriate? No. But have the girls just increased the chance of an inappropriate response by an order of magnitude? Yes.

Girls figure out young that they get stuff they want by acting like that. They also get stuff they don't want. It's all part of the same package. Take it or leave it.

92 posted on 12/30/2006 10:22:08 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: SoldierDad
I'm more of a prude when it comes to this topic. I work at a middle school, and I do not like seeing little girls becoming overly sexualized by this society.

I work in a middle school too, and if you could see the stuff the drill team does, you'd shudder head to toe. It's hair-raising. And it's adults teaching them to do it!! That's what really blows me away.

93 posted on 12/30/2006 10:23:45 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: shrinkermd; 69ConvertibleFirebird; Alexander Rubin; An American In Dairyland; Antoninus; ...
Invariably some people say, when confronted with this kind of thing, "Oh, it's no worse now, just more publicized". But the moral sewer our culture has become is definitely worse. The real problem is that it will continue to get worse unless everyone who sees the problem does something. Doesn't matter how small. Something. Homeschooling is great; monitoring what your kids see/read/listen to, who they are friends with. These things are vital. Every civilization in the past has fallen.

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94 posted on 12/30/2006 10:24:34 PM PST by little jeremiah (Only those who thirst for truth can know truth.)
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To: hosepipe; Mobile Vulgus

What someone needs to tell these "young ladies" is if you dress like a slut, you'll be treated like a slut, and some "young man" won't be understanding if and when you say...no.


95 posted on 12/30/2006 10:30:02 PM PST by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: SoftballMominVA
My SIL had her 7 year old niece quit gymnastics after she saw the floor show of an older group and realized that what she was seeing was nothing more than soft core kiddie porn. The mothers were actually showing the 9 year olds how to gyrate their hips and used the words "pout a bit more" "look sexier" "put your hand lower" She told me it was sickening. I can only imagine how these girls will act when they are in high school a few years from now.

It's the Baby Boomers' fault! (Well, a lot of Freepers will tell you it is...)

96 posted on 12/30/2006 10:39:13 PM PST by FlyVet
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To: shrinkermd

The most important reason my kids are relatively untouched by this stuff is they don't watch TV. We have a TV in the house, but no cable for it, and the only channel we receive with the antenna is the local PBS station, so the only time it's ever on is when they are playing videos we have approved or when our 4-year-old is watching a harmless kid's show like Sesame Street or Arthur.

Regarding the public sluttiness -- there is a really big difference between school districts, it comes down very simply to leadership. Most parents are sheep who won't object to the sluttiness if it is rampant, but who will conform to proper standards if the community sets them.

In the high school my kids go to (9th grade girl, 12th grade boy) the teenagers are very sexually aware, but there is an enforced dress code and the school events are well-supervised. If my kids hung out with the wrong friends they'd be exposed to a lot of bad stuff, and the school is not teaching any *positive* moral messages regarding sex, but at least it is not providing an environment which overwhelmingly negates what we try to teach our kids (it subtly negates it in some ways, but we can counter those).

If the kid has unsupervised TV watching, a school that doesn't set standards, and a community that doesn't care, it's extremely difficult for parents to counteract the bad influences.


97 posted on 12/30/2006 10:40:52 PM PST by VeritatisSplendor
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To: shrinkermd

He meant a "Prick."


98 posted on 12/30/2006 10:50:37 PM PST by lndrvr1972
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To: shrinkermd

where are we going, and what are we doing in this handbasket?


99 posted on 12/30/2006 10:57:45 PM PST by KayEyeDoubleDee (const Tag &referenceToConstTag)
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To: operation clinton cleanup

I actually met them at the Memphis Film Festival last year.


100 posted on 12/30/2006 11:02:54 PM PST by packrat35 (guest worker/day worker=SlaveMart)
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