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1 posted on 12/28/2006 12:26:59 PM PST by InvisibleChurch
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Something doesn't seem right here. If the cattle herds today are producing too much methane; what were the great buffalo herds and their buffalo patties doing some centuries ago? In other words, what is the domestic animal population of today, compared to the wild animal population of yesteryear?
30 posted on 12/28/2006 12:42:19 PM PST by NGC 6822 ((If you're not careful, you may learn one new thing every day.))
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This is now a DEAD story.

Methane levels in the atmosphere have stabilized and might be falling now. The cattle herds are safe again.

http://www.cmdl.noaa.gov/aggi/aggi-web-fig2.png

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2006-11/uoc--loi112006.php


31 posted on 12/28/2006 12:42:31 PM PST by JustDoItAlways
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I wonder what percentage of Global warming is being generated buy these junk science blow-hards...80%?

I know Al Gore is good for at least 10%


32 posted on 12/28/2006 12:42:54 PM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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a problem with livestock farting? i think i know a man who can help us!
33 posted on 12/28/2006 12:43:03 PM PST by mmmRamen (i could use a clever tagline)
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This thread is useless without useless charts. ;)

35 posted on 12/28/2006 12:43:33 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: InvisibleChurch; Kenny Bunk; Grampa Dave

Slightly off topic, but by unusual event this week I acquired a substantial amount of reindeer meat.

Anyone have good recipes for me?


38 posted on 12/28/2006 12:46:42 PM PST by Shermy
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Put Beano in the livestock feed!


42 posted on 12/28/2006 12:49:59 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: InvisibleChurch
One answer: Eat more veal and lamb. Don't give the critters much time to warm the globe.
44 posted on 12/28/2006 12:51:54 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Baker's Iraq Surrender Group - warming up the last helicopter out of Baghdad.)
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MEAT AND THE PLANET

As Dave Barry might say, "Great name for a rock band."

LOL!


47 posted on 12/28/2006 12:55:40 PM PST by upchuck (How to win the WOT? Simple: set our rules of engagement to at least match those of our enemy.)
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We're all DOOMED I tell ya........DOOMED!


48 posted on 12/28/2006 12:56:16 PM PST by traditional1
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Something to really look forward to!

52 posted on 12/28/2006 1:00:15 PM PST by Cementjungle
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Anyone know how many bizillion wild herbivores there were 30,000 years ago? What about just American bison?

What is the contribution of whales, elephants, and panda bears?

What a load of crap ;-)
57 posted on 12/28/2006 1:17:17 PM PST by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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Livestock are responsible for about 18 percent of the global warming effect

This assumes that someone actually knows whether natural global climate change is warming or cooling. However, if we accept that assumption it is then fair, and also logical, to request a listing of all other things that are responsible. This logical request is based on another assumption; the assumption that the total must be known in order to know what makes up 18% of that total.

58 posted on 12/28/2006 1:21:23 PM PST by MosesKnows
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The human passion for meat is certainly not about to end anytime soon. Our health and the health of the planet depend on pushing livestock production in more sustainable directions.

.eat TOFU or we are doomed.

61 posted on 12/28/2006 1:25:00 PM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Fake but Accurate": NY Times)
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At present, there are about 1.5 billion cattle and domestic buffalo and about 1.7 billion sheep and goats in the world.

The 2002 census of cattle and calves in the U.S. was 95,497,994. That isn't much higher than the estimated number of buffalo (60-80 million) that inhabited the plains of North America before the evil white man wiped them out. Buffalo are generally bigger than cattle, eat more and, naturally, fart more. So there is no significant net difference in ruminant produced methane. I expect the same could be said for Africa where fantastically large herds of animals roamed a century or two ago. If anything today's domestic livestock are a good deal fewer in number than the wild herds of old.

63 posted on 12/28/2006 1:26:26 PM PST by TigersEye (Ego chatters endlessly on. Mind speaks in great silence.)
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It's all those Mustangs, Pintos along with the Tauruii, not to menation the bears who cr@p in the woods and those devilish moose turds!


64 posted on 12/28/2006 1:26:49 PM PST by Young Werther
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I ran the numbers and the besI could come up with was 8%.

I think they failed to include an allowance for herd animal decline on the North American plains and African plains. This decline reduces the number by 8.3%.

It also appears that they miscalculated the effect of kelp flowers and krill. Taken together thay make up the difference.

All in all, I think they did pretty shoddy work.


71 posted on 12/28/2006 1:34:37 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. .... you'll run the bill up kid!....)
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Livestock are responsible for about 18 percent of the global warming effect

And politicians are responsible for the rest.
74 posted on 12/28/2006 1:36:23 PM PST by Beckwith (The dhimmicrats and liberal media have chosen sides and they've sided with the Jihadists.)
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Maybe we should start by killing off all the animals that don't help to sustain human life. (e.g. pandas, koalas, manatees, squirrels and other wildlife.)

It's hard to imagine that domestiaced animals are farting more than wild ones.


77 posted on 12/28/2006 1:42:14 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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The Sun is responsible for 100% of global warming.


81 posted on 12/28/2006 1:55:50 PM PST by 3niner (War is one game where the home team always loses.)
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