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Fox reporting one snow climber found (Deceased)

Posted on 12/17/2006 3:43:18 PM PST by ConservativeMan55

One climber found dead on Mt. Hood


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: climber; kellyjames; mountaineering; mounthood; mthood; oregon
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To: from occupied ga

Have they actually released the name of the one who died?


361 posted on 12/18/2006 8:16:47 AM PST by pnz1 (Pray for our troops-they need it now more than ever..)
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To: from occupied ga

Many of these climbers get a thrill out of cheating death. This time death won.

To attempt this climb with a killer storm breathing down your neck was suicidal.

Pray for W and The Climbers Families


362 posted on 12/18/2006 8:18:13 AM PST by bray (Redeploy to Iran)
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To: angkor
Your comments are truly despicable.

whatever - if you can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen

363 posted on 12/18/2006 8:19:52 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: bray
Pray for W and The Climbers Families

Prayer for all famillies who lost a loved one recently.

364 posted on 12/18/2006 8:21:29 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: pnz1

Fox website says it is Kelly James...but just saw live report from scene and the reporter specifically said that they were't releasing the name.

What gives???


365 posted on 12/18/2006 8:21:38 AM PST by KsSunflower
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To: Axenolith
Having "no public rescue" periods would probably also diminish the number of failed expeditions too, because the perception that you will be rescued probably injects a certain amount of moral hazard insurance into the decision to attempt the activity..

Not a bad idea.

366 posted on 12/18/2006 8:23:06 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: Axenolith
For challenges like attempting Mt. Hood in winter, there should merely be a clearly posted warning that if you climb between X and Y time period, no rescue will be available aside from wholly private efforts.

I agree - that's a good solution.

367 posted on 12/18/2006 8:25:28 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: from occupied ga

Seems like these people if they were truly prepared would carry some sort of locating device.


368 posted on 12/18/2006 8:25:36 AM PST by Sunnyflorida ((Elections Matter)
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To: Suzy Quzy

"I agree with you. Why not wait until spring or summer to climb a mountain?"

Why do people post about something they obviously know nothing about?

Do a google on mountaineering.



369 posted on 12/18/2006 8:27:21 AM PST by rbmillerjr
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To: NittanyLion
For challenges like attempting Mt. Hood in winter, there should merely be a clearly posted warning that if you climb between X and Y time period, no rescue will be available aside from wholly private efforts.

Are you serious? I mean, if someone is up there with a broken leg and can't get down the mountain...you would just leave him up there? Shall ambulances and police cars not respond to cars who are going to fast and go off the road into a ravine? Should firemen not put out fires when someone leaves a pot on a stove or falls asleep while smoking???

I am all for personal responsibility, but rescue workers wouldn't have jobs if they only helped people who didn't do something stupid.

I'll agree that it stinks and is a ridiculous amount of money, but really...I am embarassed by some of he comments I am reading here on FR.

370 posted on 12/18/2006 8:33:21 AM PST by KsSunflower
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To: KsSunflower

to fast...s/b too fast.


371 posted on 12/18/2006 8:34:17 AM PST by KsSunflower
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To: EndWelfareToday

"You do stupid **** you deserve what you get. jmho"

Karma.


372 posted on 12/18/2006 8:34:50 AM PST by rbmillerjr
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To: Sunnyflorida
Seems like these people if they were truly prepared would carry some sort of locating device

I guess they made the assumpion that nothing would happen to them.

373 posted on 12/18/2006 8:36:06 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: ConservativeMan55
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPIRB

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avalanches#Beacons

http://www.prolithic.com/hpages/trn_acc/winter/beacon_comp.html

Range on the beepers is not much but used in combination with personal EPIRBs seems like a great combo. Does anybody know if these guys or climbers these days use this technology? I never go offshore over the horizon without my trusty EPIRB.
374 posted on 12/18/2006 8:39:45 AM PST by Sunnyflorida ((Elections Matter)
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To: KsSunflower

I'm beyond embarrassed. I'm totally disgusted. Thank God for the people in SAR. They actually care, and have compassion for their fellow man. Something that seems to be totally lacking around here. I can't believe some of the posts I have read on this thread. Are that many people really devoid of love and compassion? Scary.


375 posted on 12/18/2006 8:40:33 AM PST by LilyBean
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To: EndWelfareToday

"I think the shame of being related to someone as stupid as these three guys were would almost be enough to make me change my name and move to the Sudan; and I'm a Christian."

You are no Christian.


376 posted on 12/18/2006 8:46:51 AM PST by rbmillerjr
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To: Dark Skies
Life is dangerous. It is most vivid at the edge. This guy knew very well that this climb might kill him. He was a fighter. He might have died...but he was a winner because he died trying.

You have a point, he may well have died thinking, "Yeee-haw!!! Hypothermia! What a way to go! I win I win I win!!!"
Not everyone is going to get on his knees and pray for forgiveness for his selfish hedonism and the heartbreak his untimely death will cause his family.
If you have to live dangerously, try doing something that saves people rather than something that obliges them to risk their lives to save you.

377 posted on 12/18/2006 8:47:50 AM PST by Graymatter (before your time)
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To: LilyBean
There is a huge difference between not caring and not rescuing, and people pointing out that taking risks is a good thing as long as you take personal responsibility.

And is seems like a legitimate question to ask who pays for risky behavior that goes bad. I'm not hearing people calling off the rescue, but wondering about the decision making all around.
378 posted on 12/18/2006 8:49:08 AM PST by Sunnyflorida ((Elections Matter)
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To: Sunnyflorida

Florida...there are numerous posters espousing the "we'll find you in the Spring" plan.


379 posted on 12/18/2006 8:51:30 AM PST by KsSunflower
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To: KsSunflower
Well I don't see that. I see "Darwinism award" nominations and a reasonable concern over who pays and a ting of annoyance over the media hype - I mean how many people died of breast cancer while this media event went on.
380 posted on 12/18/2006 8:58:36 AM PST by Sunnyflorida ((Elections Matter)
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