10 WAYS TO FIGHT MOHAMMED-WORSHIP

December 16, 2006 | Urbane Guerilla

[Urbane_Guerilla]

10 WAYS TO FIGHT MOHAMMED-WORSHIP

The worship of mohammed, which is inspired by islam (the made-up mess of a book called the koran, the hadith, the sira), has a nihilist view of existence, as do all the totalitarian belief systems thought up and implemented by demented, hating men. Paradise is always on the horizon; destruction, violence, hatred, sadism, pain and death, always on the march toward the ever-receding goal; in this case, until you get the promised sex orgy in heaven.

Bombs and soldiers are not anywhere close to the answer in confronting totalitarianism. Nor is merely the will to win, as if we could gain victory if we only tolerate more deaths by our own civilization, and more of our treasure expended in ever greater amounts.

This is above all an ideological war. It needs to be waged as a battle of ideas.

The audience for this battle splits into two parts, the worshippers of mohammed, and those in the West who cannot or will not recognize their own peril, or who indeed share the totalitarian pov and hate liberty, especially because they hate America.

Here are ten ideas and themes, (they are many more) we can use in the battle.

1. YOU ARE GOING TO HELL. Jihadis and other mohammed-worshippers think they are going to the sex orgy in the sky. This is a very vulnerable mental state. The question of their ultimate other-worldly destination resides in the upper-most part of their psychologies. They must be told at every chance that their destination is HELL.

2. YOU ARE BEING EXPLOITED BY RICH COWARDS. The vast disparity of wealth in the islamic world is rich with possibilities. Poor, ignorant moslems (meaning, most) must be bombarded with the idea that their religion is a sham used by wealthy cowards, who are only interested in saving their own pampered, sheltered lives and their money, but who use mohammed-worship to keep ordinary moslems down.

3. YOUR WOMEN ARE TREATED LIKE GARBAGE. There is always going to be a large segment of moslem women who will be intelligent enough and courageous enough to be susceptible to the truth, and of acting upon it. They can be a valuable fifth column. Even with the relentless intimidation and brain-washing moslem men inflict on moslem women, the human mind is capable of understanding the truth, and the human heart of fighting for the respect and dignity every human being deserves.

4. YOUR CIVILIZATION IS A ZERO. mohammed-worship produces nothing constructive, adds nothing positive, creates nothing, and can take no pride in any accomplishments modern man can think of.

5. MOHAMMED IS THE PERFECT EXAMPLE OF A NARCISSTIC SOCIOPATH. The man worshipped by moslems had all the expected failings of a sociopath. They are familiar to anyone who has studied islam even a little, but they are unknown or denied even by mohammed-worshippers, forget about Westerners. The various aspects of this sociopath's life must be relentlessly presented to the world.

6. THE KORAN IS A VIOLENT, INCOHERENT MESS. The koran, to worshippers of mohammed, is the perfect analogy to the Resurrection for Christians. If you don't believe in the koran as the literal spoken word of allah, then you don't believe the central tenet of the faith. The koran is so incoherent and ridiculous, it cannot be defended except by death threats and intimidation. It must be "deconstructed" in the hundreds of ways possible. All that needs to be shown, literally, is that one word of the koran is false: how difficult can this be, if the propaganda is relentless enough?

7. MOHAMMED-WORSHIP CAN ONLY BE DEFENDED BY DEATH THREATS AND INTIMIDATION. The worship of mohammed is illogical and irrational, hence it can only be defended by death threats and intimidation. As long as those are the only "logical" means available to defend islam (that is, any exercise of human intelligence in any aspect of islam is deemed to be dissing allah), they should be focused upon daily.

8. ISLAM HATES AND DISRESPECTS CHRISTIANS, JEWS, HINDUS, BUDDHISTS AND EVERY NON-WORSHIPPER OF MOHAMMED. This cannot be stressed enough. Everywhere in the world the worship of mohammed goes, it hates and kills. The koran teaches moslems to disrespect and loathe the belief of Jews and Christians. The worship of mohammed deserves no more than what advocates toward others.

9. THE WORSHIP OF MOHAMMED HAS NO GOLDEN RULE, NO FORGIVENESS OF OTHERS, AND IS LOVELESS. This cannot be stressed enough. The golden rule is inherent in human nature. Even moslems, because they are human beings, must understand that the golden rule is the basic rule of existence. But they have been convinced that infidels are subhuman, and thus not worth according respect even in the most basic way.

10. WE LOVE MOSLEMS, WE PITY THEM, WE HOPE FOR THEIR REVERSION TO HUMANITY. This also cannot be stressed enough. mohammed-worshippers are human beings, just like the rest of us, no better and no worse, except their minds have been flooded with fear, intimidation, irrationality and hatred. The propaganda battle must include a constant reminder that all we want is their peaceful happiness and fulfillment.

[Red_Devil 232]

You are so correct. This cult was invented by mohammed, who in his epileptic fits manipulated and perverted the traditional beliefs of allah held by the nomadic tribes of his time. An example of his perverted manipulation can be found at this web site:

http://www.islam-watch.org/Shabana/RealIslam/Chapter2.htm
An excerpt

We all believe that one who claims to be a messenger of God must be endowed with spiritual qualities such as love, compassion, honesty, self-restraint etc. Muhammad was a lecherous, immoral and unethical man, bereft of human qualities. He was a ruthless mass murderer, a lustful sex maniac, a shameless pedophile, and a cunning assassin, a marauding chieftain, a schizophrenic narcissist, and many other vile qualities that disqualify him to be a decent human being, let alone a messenger of God.

Still, we have to admit that Muhammad was one of the greatest geniuses that our world has ever produced. Not only that, he was also a great manipulator as well as a great liar. He lied when it was necessary to manipulate people; he used force where his manipulations faced resistance from his opponents. He threatened them with Allah’s wrath where his own force against them was unlikely to bring them to their knees.

The above conclusions can easily be drawn from Quran, which tells us how he used his manipulative power to free himself from some of the important social norms of the Pagans, yet being able to use his manipulative power to keep them tied to some of the weird norms he laid out for the purpose of serving his own purpose. This fact will become clear, when the following declarations he had made are taken into consideration. Muhammad declared that a Muslim man cannot call an adopted child his son, nor can he give him all the love he is supposed to give to his biological son, as the adopted child does not carry his blood. At the same time, he forbade his followers from marrying his wives, as he declared them to be their mothers. This prohibition applied even to those Muslims who had no blood ties with him or his wives, for he himself made it clear that he was not the father of any of his followers.

His declaration that he was not the father of any of his followers was designed at granting him the freedom to have sex with their women of his choice. This declaration was also intended to make his sexual relationship with Zainab, the would-be divorced wife of his adopted son Zaid, permissible for him.

Armed with the declarations that entitled him to have sex with any women of his choosing, he decided to create a situation, which would force Zainab to succumb to his caprices. With these intentions in his mind, Muhammad asked her mother and brother to give her in marriage to Zaid, Muhammad’s freed slave-man, who was already happily married and had a son.

Because Zaid was an ex-slave and a married man, they rejected his proposal. Infuriated, he produced a revelation, reading as follows, to force them to bow down to his order.

“It is not fitting for a Believer, man or woman, when a matter has been decided by Allah and His Apostle, to have any option about their decision: if any one disobeys Allah and His Apostle, he is indeed on a clearly wrong Path.”

The “revelation” had its intended impact and they gave in to his dictate. Zainab and Zaid got married. Their marriage gave Muhammad immense satisfaction and pleasure, prompting him to hold a grand party to celebrate his success. Muhammad could now freely have unlimited sex with Zainab, as she became wife of Zaid, his ex-slave.

[word_warrior_bob]

I appreciate what you've said, but if we don't wipe out a significant number of these people and have us or them overthrow their regimes we will need a few hundred thousand missionaries working for 100 years to change their minds.

Many of these populations have been brainwashed, while trying to convert them to Christianity may change their hearts in time, they are more appropriately in need of professional de-programmers to release from the dangerous deeath cult they belong to.

[VOA]

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[backtothestreets]

"In all religions there are good and bad people"

There are indeed good an bad in all religions. The larger issue is not about individual members of religion, but the religions themselves. Are all religions good? Can a religion be good if it teaches and adheres to policies of intolerance?

There were good and bad people within the nations that made war upon free nations in WWII. We did not respond with war because all people of the enemy nations were bad, but because the ideology that ruled the enemy nations was bad.

As for converting Muslims to Christianity, I've noted a number of posting to this thread that have me seeing a "Christian" mirror image of "Islam" teetering on the brink of forced conversions. My personal conviction holds that only those conversions to Christianity that are made of free will are true conversions.

The world is today in the midst of a religious war. Islam has brought this war upon the world. It is near impossible to look upon the barbarity of Islamic conflicts in Africa that have killed hundreds of thousands and made millions more refugees, Islamic terror against Hindus in India, against Buddhists in Thailand, against Christians in Indonesia and Lebanon, against Jews wherever they reside, and against Europeans and Americans, many that have no claimed personal religion, Muslim against Muslim in Afghanistan, Iraq, Algeria, Somalia and not see Islam as the single thread that binds all these conflicts together.

Your replies on this thread have been critical of others, yet, not a single solution have you offered. The old adage applies, "If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem."

[Jemian]

What have your fellow Christians done to you that you would send them to such a certain fate?

In my case, you should change that wording to: what have I done to my fellow Christians that they would send me to such a certain fate. (Hint, hint)

On this sentence ...Perhaps God doesn't know they lop off the heads of the good guys and don't deserve to go to heaven..., apparently I should have used a /s marker. I was being sarcastic to make a point. Of course God knows what the moslems do.

Ecclesiastes says there is a time for war and a time for peace, a time to kill and a time to heal, a time for love and a time for hate. My husband and youngest daughter are working very hard to persuade and convert. My son is in Iraq doing the work that happens when attempts at conversion fail. There is time for aggressive evangelism and a time for engaging the enemy. I have no doubt that if moslems would kill us if they could. It is either them or us. It had better be us.

[Popman]

This whole thread is very interesting from the standpoint of the amount of ignorance of Islamic concepts.

Regardless of what Urbane Guerrilla thinks, worship of Mohammad is strictly prohibited by the Muslim faith.

1. YOU ARE GOING TO HELL - Telling Muslims that is useless. They will never believe it.

2. YOU ARE BEING EXPLOITED BY RICH COWARDS - Islam almost conquered the world way before Arabia become rich. Most Muslims think the wealth the Arabs have now is a direct result of being blessed by Allah. (that will convince them) Anyway all the Muslims in the world think America is exploiting them

6. THE KORAN IS A VIOLENT, INCOHERENT MESS. - Yes, the Koran is an interesting book from a historically perspective. Nothing at all like the Bible. Muslims already know the Koran is a difficult book to understand. They need three companion books to began to understand it. All Muslims already know this.

9. THE WORSHIP OF MOHAMMED HAS NO GOLDEN RULE, NO FORGIVENESS OF OTHERS, AND IS LOVELESS. - Islam, not Mohammedanism has no GOLDEN RULE, it does have the concept of forgiveness. Submission is never about love.

Bottom line is the point of this thread is simply a rant and some of it is incoherent nonsense.

As for wiping out vast numbers of these people, raining down death and destruction in the long run will not work. Yes, the extreme radicals need to be dealt with extreme prejudice. Even if that means killing a million of them, they are a cancer on the world

In the long run Muslims themselves will rein back in their religion, or plunge the world back into the 8th century. I believe they will not let that happen. We will have very little to say about that outcome.

We are along for the ride.

[JNL]

There is a solution..stop trying to force your version of christianity on me or anyone else. Thw whole idea that by converting and or gemocide on all Muslims is a solution to the present problem is laughable at best.

I mean it when I say that this is a hate thread. A couple of born again christians with the deep belief that they are right and all others are wrong scares the frig out of me.

Again I state that there are 1.5 billion muslims....get used to it.

Am I defending their religion...damn rights I am. I believe that freedom of religion is a key...a cornerstone of our own freedoms.

The idea of focing others to believe what I believe and taking that freedom away sickens me.

[word_warrior_bob]

I don't want to be along for that ride. I have little faith that they will clean up their religion before one nut nukes an American city.

Reigning massive death upon them force them to expedite this process of cleaning up their religion and rejecting radical leaders.

[word_warrior_bob]

Pretty much all religions believe theirs is the chosen path to heaven and pity all the other heathens who have chosen the wrong path and they will pay in the afterlife.

The difference is there is one "religion" that is hell bent on global domination, their fervor is greater than the Nazi "religion". They are not afraid to openly speak of the next holocaust they plan, they openly threat to use nuclear weapons on the west. They will gladly sell nuclear weapons to radical terrorists.

This is a "hate" thread? Who's hate? Self preservation is not hate. If you openly threaten to kill me and my family I choose to take you at your word and kill you first. It's time we take these lunatics at their word.

[backtothestreets]

"There is a solution..stop trying to force your version of christianity on me or anyone else."

I have not done what you accuse me of.

"Am I defending their religion...damn rights I am. I believe that freedom of religion is a key...a cornerstone of our own freedoms."

The first two-thirds of the history of our nation would be better defined as a tolerance of religion rather than freedom of religion. It is only the more recent third of our history, beginning in 1925 that states and citizens have been stripped of their constitutional rights by the US Supreme Court, to make laws on the establishment of religion, speech, press and assembly. Only Congress was prohibited by the First Amendment from making such laws. The laws states and citizens had enacted to the point were tolerant. It is only since the courts have stripped these constitutional rights that the forces of religious intolerance have mustered strength.

"The idea of focing others to believe what I believe and taking that freedom away sickens me."

The idea of others forcing their beliefs on anyone sickens me, and their force must be answered with force. To simply allow Muslim violence to continue because they number 1.5 billion is absurd. If sheer numbers determine right from wrong, and with 2.3 billion Christians among their number, your argument based upon numbers is flawed.

[backtothestreets]

"It's time we take these lunatics at their word."

Especially when we see these lunitics making good on their word throughout the world.

[Edit35]

Seriously there are bad Christians and bad Muslims.

True enough.

And I'm certain I could find a very nice headhunter in Borneo, someone who would give you the shirt off of his back.

And in his mind's eye, sacrificing and eating human flesh is necessary for him to maintain his spiritual relationship.

In other words, all we CAN do really is generalize, because if we were to comment individually, we would have to write 3 BILLION stories, one for each person.

And generally speaking, the Christian world is quick to squash those nutball 'religious' movements which pose real physical threats to others. (please dont cite that old argumentative standby, the Crusades, because that was nearly 150 generations ago)

On the other hand, can you please explain to me why it is that those 3 billion SUPPOSEDLY GOOD AND RIGHTEOUS Muslims cannot stop their extremist killing sects, those with chapters in every Muslim country on earth.

[JNL]

But you are equating all Muslims with terror, that's why the 1.5 billion number is so important. There are muslims who go to work worry about who's going to pay the cable bill this month etc...


There are lunatics in every religion. Not all muslims believe that you should convert. Most if not all muslims accept christ as a prophet and respect that.

I know I'm talking to myself here but when people start beliving that their religion is better and or must be forced on others... then we have issues.

[Popman]

Reigning massive death upon them force them to expedite this process of cleaning up their religion and rejecting radical leaders.

Then you have little understand of the Muslim mind. All that will do is radicalize millions of them

Understand, I'm in the column you check off that says Islam is a cult.

They have a cult like mindset. Punishing millions of Muslims will only make them more hardened and more violent

[word_warrior_bob]

Then we'll have to kill them too, until a vast majority of muslims are peaceful, like Christians are.

[word_warrior_bob]

I have no problem going back to the crusades. This was the crushing of the barbarian hordes (who started the aggression) and this put them in check for a while.

We need the same strategy now, the muslim hordes have risen they need to be put in check until they can't pose a threat to normal people for another 500-1000 years.

Thin the heard.

[backtothestreets]

"But you are equating all Muslims with terror"

No, I am equating one religion with terror. That is not to say people of other religions, nor agnostics or atheists do not have their own terrorists, but Islam does teach and practice terrorism, even if all Muslims do not practice it. It was no different among the Shinto Japanese of Imperial Japan, the Germans in Nazi Germany, nor the Fascist of Italy. There were good people among these nations that suffered greatly because many of their own kind forced themselves violently onto others, and the good did not rise up to stop their own kind from participating in the violence. Are you aware Muslims are prohibited from interfering on behalf of non-Muslims in Jihad?

Islam has painted everyone into a corner, including Muslims. The options are few. I truly wish there were good options on the table that allowed all to live in peace. Peace is always the most desirable existence. Islam is at odds with peace, even in predominately Muslim states and populations. There is no peace in Islam, although I agree a great many Muslims desire peace. They are in as bad a predicament as non-Muslims.

[JNL]

Bull and ignorant propoganda. If you ever sat down and read the Koran I'd actually believe you.

Much like the Bible the Koran can be twisted to any agenda.

The Koran does not advocate violence if it does I'd like you to point out where.

[hosepipe]

11. Muslims cannot eat pork because cannibalism is forbidden to Muslims..

[backtothestreets]

"If you ever sat down and read the Koran I'd actually believe you."

Then as I have read the Koran, as well as the Bible and the Torah, be good to your word and believe my word.

Here is but one of many verses from the Koran;
"Take therefore none of them for friends, till they have fled their homes for the cause of God. If they turn back, then seize them, and slay them wherever ye find them; but take none as friend or helper, ..."

I wish you well if it is peace you seek, but your lies against me have me believing you mean to insight the very hatred you falsely claim to abhor.