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Bush Follows Patton (Americans Are Not Born Quitters, Darn it! Alert)
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| 12/04/2006
| Alan W. Dowd
Posted on 12/04/2006 2:07:05 AM PST by goldstategop
There is a haunting yet hopeful moment in the film Patton, when George C. Scotts General Patton utters a warning that carries timeless weighta warning we would do well to heed.
In the scene, British and American generals are discussing the grim situation in the strategic town of Bastogne, where the US 101st Airborne is surrounded by German forces. A British general reports that theres nothing General Montgomery can do to help. Other Allied generals simply avert their gaze from the map and the problem. But then General Patton volunteers to do the unthinkable: attack with three divisions in just 48 hours. The assembled brass are incredulous and tell him to be realistic. One general counsels Patton to fall back and regroup. Noting that its the dead of winter, another dismisses Pattons plan as impossible. Patton interrupts them with a sobering declaration. We can still lose this war, he growls, adding with paradoxical optimism, Were in business to do the impossible.
Patton and his Third Army would do just that.
What was true that final winter of World War II is true today: When given the opportunity and the public backing, the U.S. military can still do the impossible. Yet we can still lose this war, because wethe American people and our elected officialsare losing the will to wage it.
The signs are everywhere: a new Congress promising to withdraw or redeploy; a new commission advocating overtures to the regions thugs and hinting at an old solutiona return to realism and the end of an audacious democracy project in the Middle East.
But its not only Iraqand its not only politicians and policymakersthat expose our foundering will. A recent CNN poll found that 48 percent of the country opposes the war in Afghanistan, the very place that spawned al Qaedas mass-murderers. More than half the American people56 percentare resigned to the prospect of a nuclear-armed Iran. Less than 10 percent of the country supports military action to prevent that increasingly likely and bleak outcome. Plus, a dwindling percentage identifies the war in Iraq as part of the wider War on Terror.
Yet as Karlyn Bowman of the American Enterprise Institute has found in a massive survey of post-9/11 polling data, 77 percent of the country reasoned (rightly) in early 2003 that Iraq was part of the War on Terror. Bowman has also unearthed a CNN poll that asked Americans just days after 9/11 if they would support military action even if it meant 5,000 troops would be killed. In a sign of our grim, if ephemeral, determination, 76 percent said yes.
Iraq has alwaysor at least since 1991been just one of many fronts in a global war. Today, it is a strategic toehold surrounded and infiltrated by enemy forces. Indeed, if we Americans lose this war on terror, a major factor will be our failure to see it in global terms; to connect the dots from Manhattan to Madrid to Bali to Beslan to Iraq to Israel to Waziristan to Washington to London to Lebanon; to understand that summits and sanctions and compromise wont sate this enemy.
Consider that Iran and Syriatwo regimes the well-meaning Realists say we need to work with and talk tohave fomented a war in Israel and lower Lebanon, pumped jihadists into Iraq to kill Americans and bludgeon Iraqs nascent democracy, and used their proxies to light the fuse of another civil war in Lebanon. Irans leaders openly talk about crippling the U.S., destroying democratic Israel and building a nuclear arsenal. Syria, for its part, has played a role in at least two assassinations of moderate leaders committed to democracy.
All of this has taken place in the past four years, most of it in the last two.
Any real war against jihadism and its terrorist offspring has to recognize that regimes like thisregimes which support the likes of al-Qaeda, Hamas, the Mahdi Army, and Hezbollahare enemies.
This doesnt necessarily mean the U.S. should launch military strikes against Iran or Syriathere are many ways to wage war, as the Iranians and Syrians remind us every daybut it should put to rest the notion that these terrorist states can help heal Iraq. Its one thing to make common cause with the enemy of my enemy. Its quite another to partner with the friend of my enemy. Indeed, reaching out to the blood-smeared hands of Ahmadinejad and Assad would push realpolitik to a new low, if thats possible.
For his part, President George W. Bush is trying to resist those who counsel that its time to make a deal with the devils in Damascus and Tehran. Iran knows how to get to the table with us, he recently said in response to the Realist caucus.
Hes also resisting the push toward the easy way out of Iraqthe path that leads to defeat. Well make the changes necessary to succeed, he said while in Europe. But theres one thing Im not going to do. Im not going to pull our troops off the battlefield before the mission is complete. He has even used the language of the Realists to defend his lonely position. This business about a graceful exit just simply has no realism to it whatsoever, he argued during the Amman summit.
Bush can change tactics and troop levels; he can reshuffle cabinet secretaries; he can even revamp policy and strategy. But one wonders if he can change the cant-do attitude of the now-ascendant Realists, who would rather fall back and regroupand who fail to recognize we can still lose this war on terrorism or win it. It all comes down to will.
As General Dwight Eisenhower put it during that desperate winter of 1944, The present situation is to be regarded as one of opportunity for us and not of disaster.
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For me, the one scene in the movie
Patton is the one where George C. Scott's Patton admonishes American troops that Americans are not born quitters. We hang tough til the job gets done. That's who we are. Bulldogs.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
To: goldstategop
My thought exactly! We are AmeriCANS, dammit, not AmeriCAN'TS!
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posted on
12/04/2006 2:14:43 AM PST
by
dirtbiker
(I've tried to see the liberal point of view, but I couldn't get my head up my a$$....)
To: goldstategop
Were in business to do the impossible. Sign me up. I have a little experience in this regard, too.
To: goldstategop
We hang tough til the job gets done. That's who we are. Bulldogs.Well, that's who the greatest generation were. Remains to be seen about the Boomers and Gen-Xers. I fear that a people who would elect a Dim Congress in the midst of war does not encourage me.
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posted on
12/04/2006 2:32:05 AM PST
by
night reader
(NRA Life Member since 1962)
To: goldstategop
Success Through a Positive Mental Attitude! (what I'm reading right now)
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posted on
12/04/2006 2:52:48 AM PST
by
endthematrix
("If it's not the Crusades, it's the cartoons.")
To: goldstategop
The Iraq Study Group/The Surrender Slowly Committee
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posted on
12/04/2006 2:54:00 AM PST
by
beyond the sea
( All lies and jest, still the man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.)
To: goldstategop
" That's who we are. Bulldogs "
The times cry out for men of the Eisenhower/Patton breed, and we got Wesley Clarke.
The times cry out for a Churchill, and we get Lee Hamilton and the ISG.
Fifty years of public 'education' tearing down the whole idea of "What It Means To Be An American" has taken its toll, and the Punditocracy has seized control...
The bulldogs have been eaten by the pomeranians.....
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posted on
12/04/2006 3:07:39 AM PST
by
Uncle Ike
("Tripping over the lines connecting all of the dots"... [FReeper Pinz-n-needlez])
To: night reader
I fear that a people who would elect a Dim Congress in the midst of war does not encourage me.The "New Deal" would have made you stone still, then.
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posted on
12/04/2006 3:12:41 AM PST
by
Glenn
(Annoy a BushBot...Think for yourself.)
To: goldstategop
Bush's reply to the MSM, RATS, Euroweanies, and Ayatollahs should be:
NUTS!
To: night reader
Well, that's who the greatest generation were. Remains to be seen about the Boomers and Gen-Xers. The generations that grew up from the 60's on are just pathetic. We've seen enough of the boomers to make that call now.
To: night reader
I am a boomer, a lot of the leftist boomers are in control right now. There are still plenty of untainted boomers out there.... the GenXers are what worries me. The ones in military service are great, but there are a lot of them that pay no attention to anything out there. Fighting a war is done on video games.
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posted on
12/04/2006 3:53:24 AM PST
by
dforest
To: goldstategop
"This doesnt necessarily mean the U.S. should launch military strikes against Iran or Syriathere are many ways to wage war, as the Iranians and Syrians remind us every day..."
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posted on
12/04/2006 4:14:07 AM PST
by
familyop
To: goldstategop
...retry.
"This doesnt necessarily mean the U.S. should launch military strikes against Iran or Syriathere are many ways to wage war, as the Iranians and Syrians remind us every day..."
. General Patton knew the importance of using mobility and cutting off the enemy's strongest source of support. That leaves us with the knowledge of where most of the support for guerrillas (terrorists) in Iraq is coming from. Why are we seeing diversions from that critical part of the real scenario and refusals to act accordingly?
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posted on
12/04/2006 4:15:17 AM PST
by
familyop
To: goldstategop
Here is the real speech as given by Patton. It is NOT the whitewashed cleaned up movie version. Be aware and enjoy!
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General Patton arose and strode swiftly to the microphone. The men snapped to their feet and stood silently. Patton surveyed the sea of brown with a grim look. "Be seated", he said. The words were not a request, but a command. The General's voice rose high and clear.
"Men, this stuff that some sources sling around about America wanting out of this war, not wanting to fight, is a crock of bullshit. Americans love to fight, traditionally. All real Americans love the sting and clash of battle. You are here today for three reasons. First, because you are here to defend your homes and your loved ones. Second, you are here for your own self respect, because you would not want to be anywhere else. Third, you are here because you are real men and all real men like to fight. When you, here, everyone of you, were kids, you all admired the champion marble player, the fastest runner, the toughest boxer, the big league ball players, and the All-American football players. Americans love a winner. Americans will not tolerate a loser. Americans despise cowards. Americans play to win all of the time. I wouldn't give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed. That's why Americans have never lost nor will ever lose a war; for the very idea of losing is hateful to an American."
The General paused and looked over the crowd. "You are not all going to die," he said slowly. "Only two percent of you right here today would die in a major battle. Death must not be feared. Death, in time, comes to all men. Yes, every man is scared in his first battle. If he says he's not, he's a liar. Some men are cowards but they fight the same as the brave men or they get the hell slammed out of them watching men fight who are just as scared as they are. The real hero is the man who fights even though he is scared. Some men get over their fright in a minute under fire. For some, it takes an hour. For some, it takes days. But a real man will never let his fear of death overpower his honor, his sense of duty to his country, and his innate manhood. Battle is the most magnificent competition in which a human being can indulge. It brings out all that is best and it removes all that is base. Americans pride themselves on being He Men and they ARE He Men. Remember that the enemy is just as frightened as you are, and probably more so. They are not supermen."
"All through your Army careers, you men have bitched about what you call "chicken shit drilling". That, like everything else in this Army, has a definite purpose. That purpose is alertness. Alertness must be bred into every soldier. I don't give a fuck for a man who's not always on his toes. You men are veterans or you wouldn't be here. You are ready for what's to come. A man must be alert at all times if he expects to stay alive. If you're not alert, sometime, a German son-of-an-asshole-bitch is going to sneak up behind you and beat you to death with a sockful of shit!" The men roared in agreement.
Patton's grim expression did not change. "There are four hundred neatly marked graves somewhere in Sicily", he roared into the microphone, "All because one man went to sleep on the job". He paused and the men grew silent. "But they are German graves, because we caught the bastard asleep before they did". The General clutched the microphone tightly, his jaw out-thrust, and he continued, "An Army is a team. It lives, sleeps, eats, and fights as a team. This individual heroic stuff is pure horse shit. The bilious bastards who write that kind of stuff for the Saturday Evening Post don't know any more about real fighting under fire than they know about fucking!"
The men slapped their legs and rolled in glee. This was Patton as the men had imagined him to be, and in rare form, too. He hadn't let them down. He was all that he was cracked up to be, and more. He had IT! "We have the finest food, the finest equipment, the best spirit, and the best men in the world", Patton bellowed. He lowered his head and shook it pensively. Suddenly he snapped erect, faced the men belligerently and thundered, "Why, by God, I actually pity those poor sons-of-bitches we're going up against. By God, I do". The men clapped and howled delightedly. There would be many a barracks tale about the "Old Man's" choice phrases. They would become part and parcel of Third Army's history and they would become the bible of their slang.
"My men don't surrender", Patton continued, "I don't want to hear of any soldier under my command being captured unless he has been hit. Even if you are hit, you can still fight back. That's not just bull shit either. The kind of man that I want in my command is just like the lieutenant in Libya, who, with a Luger against his chest, jerked off his helmet, swept the gun aside with one hand, and busted the hell out of the Kraut with his helmet. Then he jumped on the gun and went out and killed another German before they knew what the hell was coming off. And, all of that time, this man had a bullet through a lung. There was a real man!"
Patton stopped and the crowd waited. He continued more quietly, "All of the real heroes are not storybook combat fighters, either. Every single man in this Army plays a vital role. Don't ever let up. Don't ever think that your job is unimportant. Every man has a job to do and he must do it. Every man is a vital link in the great chain. What if every truck driver suddenly decided that he didn't like the whine of those shells overhead, turned yellow, and jumped headlong into a ditch? The cowardly bastard could say, "Hell, they won't miss me, just one man in thousands". But, what if every man thought that way? Where in the hell would we be now? What would our country, our loved ones, our homes, even the world, be like? No, Goddamnit, Americans don't think like that. Every man does his job. Every man serves the whole. Every department, every unit, is important in the vast scheme of this war. The ordnance men are needed to supply the guns and machinery of war to keep us rolling. The Quartermaster is needed to bring up food and clothes because where we are going there isn't a hell of a lot to steal. Every last man on K.P. has a job to do, even the one who heats our water to keep us from getting the 'G.I. Shits'."
Patton paused, took a deep breath, and continued, "Each man must not think only of himself, but also of his buddy fighting beside him. We don't want yellow cowards in this Army. They should be killed off like rats. If not, they will go home after this war and breed more cowards. The brave men will breed more brave men. Kill off the Goddamned cowards and we will have a nation of brave men. One of the bravest men that I ever saw was a fellow on top of a telegraph pole in the midst of a furious fire fight in Tunisia. I stopped and asked what the hell he was doing up there at a time like that. He answered, "Fixing the wire, Sir". I asked, "Isn't that a little unhealthy right about now?" He answered, "Yes Sir, but the Goddamned wire has to be fixed". I asked, "Don't those planes strafing the road bother you?" And he answered, "No, Sir, but you sure as hell do!" Now, there was a real man. A real soldier. There was a man who devoted all he had to his duty, no matter how seemingly insignificant his duty might appear at the time, no matter how great the odds. And you should have seen those trucks on the rode to Tunisia. Those drivers were magnificent. All day and all night they rolled over those son-of-a-bitching roads, never stopping, never faltering from their course, with shells bursting all around them all of the time. We got through on good old American guts. Many of those men drove for over forty consecutive hours. These men weren't combat men, but they were soldiers with a job to do. They did it, and in one hell of a way they did it. They were part of a team. Without team effort, without them, the fight would have been lost. All of the links in the chain pulled together and the chain became unbreakable." The General paused and stared challengingly over the silent ocean of men. One could have heard a pin drop anywhere on that vast hillside. The only sound was the stirring of the breeze in the leaves of the bordering trees and the busy chirping of the birds in the branches of the trees at the General's left.
"Don't forget," Patton barked, "you men don't know that I'm here. No mention of that fact is to be made in any letters. The world is not supposed to know what the hell happened to me. I'm not supposed to be commanding this Army. I'm not even supposed to be here in England. Let the first bastards to find out be the Goddamned Germans. Some day I want to see them raise up on their piss-soaked hind legs and howl, 'Jesus Christ, it's the Goddamned Third Army again and that son-of-a-fucking-bitch Patton'."
"We want to get the hell over there", Patton continued, "The quicker we clean up this Goddamned mess, the quicker we can take a little jaunt against the purple pissing Japs and clean out their nest, too. Before the Goddamned Marines get all of the credit."
The men roared approval and cheered delightedly. This statement had real significance behind it. Much more than met the eye and the men instinctively sensed the fact. They knew that they themselves were going to play a very great part in the making of world history. They were being told as much right now. Deep sincerity and seriousness lay behind the General's colorful words. The men knew and understood it. They loved the way he put it, too, as only he could.
Patton continued quietly, "Sure, we want to go home. We want this war over with. The quickest way to get it over with is to go get the bastards who started it. The quicker they are whipped, the quicker we can go home. The shortest way home is through Berlin and Tokyo. And when we get to Berlin", he yelled, "I am personally going to shoot that paper hanging son-of-a-bitch Hitler. Just like I'd shoot a snake!"
"When a man is lying in a shell hole, if he just stays there all day, a German will get to him eventually. The hell with that idea. The hell with taking it. My men don't dig foxholes. I don't want them to. Foxholes only slow up an offensive. Keep moving. And don't give the enemy time to dig one either. We'll win this war, but we'll win it only by fighting and by showing the Germans that we've got more guts than they have; or ever will have. We're not going to just shoot the sons-of-bitches, we're going to rip out their living Goddamned guts and use them to grease the treads of our tanks. We're going to murder those lousy Hun cocksuckers by the bushel-fucking-basket. War is a bloody, killing business. You've got to spill their blood, or they will spill yours. Rip them up the belly. Shoot them in the guts. When shells are hitting all around you and you wipe the dirt off your face and realize that instead of dirt it's the blood and guts of what once was your best friend beside you, you'll know what to do!"
"I don't want to get any messages saying, "I am holding my position." We are not holding a Goddamned thing. Let the Germans do that. We are advancing constantly and we are not interested in holding onto anything, except the enemy's balls. We are going to twist his balls and kick the living shit out of him all of the time. Our basic plan of operation is to advance and to keep on advancing regardless of whether we have to go over, under, or through the enemy. We are going to go through him like crap through a goose; like shit through a tin horn!"
"From time to time there will be some complaints that we are pushing our people too hard. I don't give a good Goddamn about such complaints. I believe in the old and sound rule that an ounce of sweat will save a gallon of blood. The harder WE push, the more Germans we will kill. The more Germans we kill, the fewer of our men will be killed. Pushing means fewer casualties. I want you all to remember that."
The General paused. His eagle like eyes swept over the hillside. He said with pride, "There is one great thing that you men will all be able to say after this war is over and you are home once again. You may be thankful that twenty years from now when you are sitting by the fireplace with your grandson on your knee and he asks you what you did in the great World War II, you WON'T have to cough, shift him to the other knee and say, "Well, your Granddaddy shoveled shit in Louisiana." No, Sir, you can look him straight in the eye and say, "Son, your Granddaddy rode with the Great Third Army and a Son-of-a-Goddamned-Bitch named Georgie Patton!"
LLS
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posted on
12/04/2006 4:24:32 AM PST
by
LibLieSlayer
(Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
To: AmericaUnited
Correction
Bush's reply to the MSM, RATS, Euroweanies, and Ayatollahs should be:
NUTS! Has anyone seen mine?
That's now accurate.
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posted on
12/04/2006 4:27:20 AM PST
by
Modok
To: goldstategop
General Patton didnt have to deal with the UN.
General Patton didnt have to listen to the Frogs. No one listened to De gaulle, he was just along for te ride.
General Patton had a Churchill leading the British who at that time werent loaded up with their own Islamics.
General Patton didnt have to worry when a civilian got in the way. He was there to kill the enemy and anything else wasnt bothered with.
General Patton destroyed the enemy to the point that they didnt worry about which cult would run the country, they were too busy trying not to be killed by Pattons Army. Probably our biggest mistake was a lack of ruthlessness.
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posted on
12/04/2006 4:30:46 AM PST
by
sgtbono2002
(The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
To: dirtbiker
Mr. Cokie Roberts was mouthing the Frank Rich line this morning on WABC radio.
We are going to have to be more vocal in our support of the war on terror and our President's unwillingness to cut and run if we are going to survive.
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posted on
12/04/2006 5:07:53 AM PST
by
OldFriend
(FALLEN HERO JEFFREY TOCZYLOWSKI, REST IN PEACE)
To: OldFriend
I agree. We can't let the President shoulder this burden alone.
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posted on
12/04/2006 5:14:32 AM PST
by
Miss Marple
(Lord, thank you for Mozart Lover's son's safe return, and look after Jemian's son, please!)
To: Miss Marple
I'm out there speaking up when I can. And hoping that people nearby in the coffee shop are listening too!
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posted on
12/04/2006 5:19:14 AM PST
by
OldFriend
(FALLEN HERO JEFFREY TOCZYLOWSKI, REST IN PEACE)
To: Miss Marple
Bush on lessons of Vietnam: "We'll succeed unless we quit.""
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