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New U.S. dollar coins hide 'In God We Trust'
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Nov. 27, 2006 | Staff

Posted on 11/27/2006 11:02:39 AM PST by News Hunter

"In God We Trust," the official national motto since 1956 and a familiar sight on U.S. coins and currency, will be hard to find on the new presidential dollar coins scheduled for release to the public Feb. 15, 2007.

The new gold-colored dollar pieces, featuring images of U.S. presidents, will move the inscription from the face of the coin to the thin edge, along with the year and the previous national motto, "E Pluribus Unum," Latin for "Out of Many, One."

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To: jan in Colorado

I thank you for your prayers and kind words. Thanksgiving was a mixed blessing to be sure. While I dearly miss my dad, I know he is watching us from Heaven and looking out for our son.


121 posted on 11/27/2006 1:14:23 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Father of a 10th Mountain Division 2nd BCT Soldier back in the "SandBox")
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To: Lunatic Fringe
However, making the motto "In God We Trust" may be a violation of the establishment clause.

How so? It is not establishing any certain religion or forcing anyone to submit thereunder. It is merely an acknowledgement that our country's laws are based upon a belief and trust in God as evidence by our founding documents which include the words:

We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal(by God), that they are endowed, by their Creator (God), with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.....

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence(!!!!), we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

122 posted on 11/27/2006 1:14:45 PM PST by redgirlinabluestate
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To: Raymann

Got TONS more of this sort of HISTORICAL evidence but this should give you the basics -- assuming you have the desire to read it.

And here's something ELSE you'd better consider: If your RIGHTS are NOT GOD-GIVEN, about the only entity with the power to give and secure such rights is the STATE. And, since a STATE can take those rights back, you're on VERY SHAKY HISTORICAL GROUND.

Below find what a bunch of stupid old white guys had to say on the subject.


• “In the name of God, Amen. We, whose names are underwritten, the loyal subjects of our dread sovereign, lord King James, by the grace of God, of Great Britain, France, and Ireland, king, defender of the faith, etc., having undertaken for the glory of God and advancement of the Christian faith, and the honor of our king and country, a voyage to plant the first colony in the northern parts of Virginia; so by these presents, solemnly and mutually in the presence of God and one another, covenant and combine ourselves together into a civil body politic, for our better ordering and preservation and furtherance of the ends aforesaid; and by virtue hereof do enact, constitute and frame such just and equal laws, ordinances, acts. constitutions and offices, from time to time, as shall be thought most meet and convenient for the general good of the colony; unto which we promise all due submission and obedience. In witness whereof we have hereunto subscribed our names at Cape Cod the eleventh of November, in the reign of our sovereign lord King James of England, France and Ireland, the eighteenth and of Scotland, the fifty fourth. Anno Domini, 1620.”
The Mayflower Compact

• “We, greatly commending and graciously accepting of their desires for the furtherance of so noble a work, which may, by the providence of Almighty God, hereafter tend to the glory of His Divine Majesty, in propagating of Christian religion to such people, as yet live in darkness and miserable ignorance of the true knowledge and worship of God,...”
From the First Charter of Virginia

• A nation of well informed men, who have been taught to know and to prize the rights God has given them, cannot be enslaved. It is in the region of ignorance that tyranny begins.
Benjamin Franklin

“When the religion of a people is destroyed, doubt gets hold of the higher powers of the intellect, and half paralyzes all the others. Every man accustoms himself to have only confused and changing notions on the subjects most interesting to his fellow-creatures and himself. His opinions are ill-defined and easily abandoned; and, in despair of ever solving by himself the hard problems respecting the destiny of man, he ignobly submits to think no more about them. Such a condition cannot but enervate the soul, relax the springs of the will, and prepare the people for servitude. Not only does this happen, in such a case, that they allow their freedom to be taken from them; they themselves frequently surrender it.”
---Alexis de Tocqueville, “Democracy in America” (1840)


*I sought for the key to the greatness and genius of America in her harbors...;in her fertile fields and boundless forests; in her rich mines and vast world commerce; in her public school system and institutions of learning. I sought for it in her democratic Congress and in her matchless Constitution. Not until I went into her churches and saw pulpits aflame with righteousness did I understand the secret of her genius and power. America is great because America is good, and if America ever ceases to be good, America will cease to be great. (Alexis de Tocqueville, 1840)

FOURTH—AND FORGOTTEN AND NOT PC—VERSE OF NATIONAL ANTHEM
“O thus be it ever when freemen shall stand Between their loved homes and war’s desolation Bles’t with victory and peace, may the heav’n rescued land Praise the Pow’r that hath made and preserved us a nation Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just And this be our motto: “In God is our trust!””
Francis Scott Key

*There is not a truth to be gathered from history more certain, or more momentous, than this: That civil liberty cannot long be separated from religious liberty without danger, and, ultimately, without destruction of both. Wherever religious liberty exists, it will, first or last, bring in and establish political liberty. (Joseph Story, Supreme Court Justice, 1779 1845)


*"It is the duty of every man to render to the Creator such
homage and such only as he believes to be acceptable to Him.
This duty is precedent, both in order of time and degree of
obligation, to the claims of Civil Society. Before any man can
be considered as a member of Civil Society, he must be considered
as a subject of the Governor of the Universe." James Madison


*"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political
prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports."
George Washington

*"The highest glory of the American Revolution was this: It
connected in one indissoluble bond, the principles of civil
government with the principles of Christianity."
John Quincy Adams


123 posted on 11/27/2006 1:15:19 PM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: redgirlinabluestate

You are quoting the Declaration, which has no legal authority other than declaring us free from England. Our laws are based on the Constitution, a decidedly SECULAR document.


124 posted on 11/27/2006 1:17:09 PM PST by Lunatic Fringe (Say "NO" to the Trans-Texas Corridor)
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To: Dick Bachert
If your RIGHTS are NOT GOD-GIVEN, about the only entity with the power to give and secure such rights is the STATE.

A flawed argument. The Founders were mostly Deists, and they believed in Natural Rights, not "God-Given" Rights. One need not believe in a Supreme Being in order to declare that your rights come from something other than the State.

125 posted on 11/27/2006 1:19:36 PM PST by Lunatic Fringe (Say "NO" to the Trans-Texas Corridor)
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To: higgmeister

I wonder what the HRC Coin will say?


126 posted on 11/27/2006 1:21:28 PM PST by trumandogz (Rudy G 2008: The "G" Stands For Gun Grabbing & Gay Lovin.)
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To: Cicero
Since children are no longer taught anything about the presidents, this could actually be useful.

And these dollars may actually get used a lot, as our money continues to be devalued. Soon, dollars will be used for what quarters could previously buy, just like quarters are now used for what dimes or even pennies could once buy.

127 posted on 11/27/2006 1:22:10 PM PST by freedomdefender
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To: News Hunter

According to Al Bore, it means "Out of One, Many." Not sure what he thinks the God stuff is referring to... /sarc


128 posted on 11/27/2006 1:23:16 PM PST by PghBaldy (Reporter: Are you surprised? Nancy Pelosi: No. My eyes always look like this.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Lunatic Fringe works for me.

Have you ever seen one of those educational channel shows where they wind a 24 hour clock BACK to the origins of all we see around us (and a lot we CAN'T see)?

Have you ever wondered why, when they get back to their "Big Bang" or whatever they're calling it these days, the clock stops JUST SHY OF THE FULL 12 O'CLOCK POSITION?

Could it be that even these very smart scientists simply DON'T KNOW WHAT or WHO TRIGGERED THE EVENT??

But you do, don't you.

It was a GIANT AMOEBA, right?


129 posted on 11/27/2006 1:29:51 PM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Lunatic Fringe works for me.

Have you ever seen one of those educational channel shows where they wind a 24 hour clock BACK to the origins of all we see around us (and a lot we CAN'T see)?

Have you ever wondered why, when they get back to their "Big Bang" or whatever they're calling it these days, the clock stops JUST SHY OF THE FULL 12 O'CLOCK POSITION?

Could it be that even these very smart scientists simply DON'T KNOW WHAT or WHO TRIGGERED THE EVENT??

But you do, don't you.

It was a GIANT AMOEBA, right?


130 posted on 11/27/2006 1:29:51 PM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: leadpenny

Anyone notice a pattern in the previous two dollar coins?


131 posted on 11/27/2006 1:30:05 PM PST by PghBaldy (Reporter: Are you surprised? Nancy Pelosi: No. My eyes always look like this.)
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To: CottShop; al baby; martin_fierro; Constitution Day; Tijeras_Slim
Whether you bleeive in God or not- the majority of peopel do and we berleive that His blessings are

I think you may have just dethroned Al Baby as having FRs worst-typed sentence ever.

132 posted on 11/27/2006 1:31:47 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance ( <h2>SAY NO TO RUDY! I know how to spell, I just type like s#it.)
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To: PghBaldy

There's a two dollar coin?

Couldn't resist.

Ahhhh, not really.


133 posted on 11/27/2006 1:33:54 PM PST by leadpenny
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To: Dick Bachert

What the hell kind of tangent are you off on?


134 posted on 11/27/2006 1:35:31 PM PST by Lunatic Fringe (Say "NO" to the Trans-Texas Corridor)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

Posting while drunk...

It's never a good idea.


135 posted on 11/27/2006 1:38:54 PM PST by Constitution Day ("Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." — Aldous Huxley)
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To: Constitution Day

But an all-to-common occurrence


136 posted on 11/27/2006 1:40:40 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance ( <h2>SAY NO TO RUDY! I know how to spell, I just type like s#it.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe; Dick Bachert

That's easy. He's gone stark raving mad.

I didn't mean that Dick. Honest. BTW, where'd you get those heads you shrunk?


137 posted on 11/27/2006 1:41:44 PM PST by leadpenny
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To: Fierce Allegiance

Well, of course. I love it for the entertainment value.


138 posted on 11/27/2006 1:45:53 PM PST by Constitution Day ("Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." — Aldous Huxley)
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To: Fierce Allegiance; Constitution Day

I can't stop laughing or bleeiving.


139 posted on 11/27/2006 1:46:10 PM PST by leadpenny
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To: Fierce Allegiance

I BLEEIVE!!!!


140 posted on 11/27/2006 1:48:08 PM PST by NeoCaveman (The Senator, while insisting he was not intoxicated, could not explain his nudity - WKRP)
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