The Libertarian Effect

Real Clear Politics ^ | 11/13/06 | ROSS KAMINSKY

[takenoprisoner]

"The sheets of bills were xeroxes of bills which are used to track serial numbers."

BS Hezbollah is well known for it's counterfeiting activities. Begs the question, what is your motive to post such a lie?

[takenoprisoner]

"It disgusts me to my soul that an uninformed buffoon's vote counts as much as mine."

Meantime, I am frightened to the core to learn that there are freepers (obviously skilled in the art of deception and propaganda) who willfully and boldly attempt to deny the counterfeiting activities of hezbollah terrorists.

[Richard Kimball]

Good post. It wasn't one big thing that hurt the pubbies, it was a lot of little things.

I think the Dubai Port deal and the open borders hurt us a lot, though. W was riding high, and everyone was giving him the benefit of the doubt on the WOT until he started the open borders thing. Now, I don't think most people have a problem with increasing the number of work visas from Mexico, or making legal immigration easier. However, protecting the borders against illegal immigration didn't even require any new laws. Just enforce the existing ones while working on an immigration policy. It did NOT have to become a crisis situation. From the time W started pushing the open borders his popularity dropped like a rock (this was before the 2004 election). I think a lot of people started rightly asking, "Why is my son (daughter) in Iraq, when our southern border is wide open and we have NO IDEA who's coming across?" It undercut his entire argument. The Dubai Ports deal may have been a good business move, but it had to be the dumbest political move of the last thirty years. In the middle of the WOT, we were talking about selling management contracts to an Islamic country on the southern border of Iraq. Whatever credibility W had on the WOT died with that move.

There were dozens of other things that came together, but I think these had a collective effect in seriously damaging the biggest area of Republican advantage.

Please note, I am not saying the Republicans losing was a good thing. I voted R. I am saying these issues hurt us.

[Sam Hill]

"Meantime, I am frightened to the core to learn that there are freepers (obviously skilled in the art of deception and propaganda) who willfully and boldly attempt to deny the counterfeiting activities of hezbollah terrorists."

Hey, aren't you the a$$hat who was bemoaning tracking terrorist banking activities? IT was too much paperwork?

Wasn't that one of the reasons you listed for voting for the terrorist enabling Democrats -- or staying at home in Mom's basement and playing Dungeons and Dragons instead?

Like I said. It's demoralizing to see such "intellect" on parade.

[Sam Hill]

"The Dubai Ports deal may have been a good business move, but it had to be the dumbest political move of the last thirty years. In the middle of the WOT, we were talking about selling management contracts to an Islamic country on the southern border of Iraq. Whatever credibility W had on the WOT died with that move."

Never mind that Saudi Arabia has similarly "managed" 9 US port facilities since 1979:

Saudi Shipping Company “Controls” 9 US Ports | Sweetness & Light
http://www.sweetness-light.com/archive/meet-the-national-shipping-company-of-saudi-arabia

You (and too many others) were spun by the DNC media and you didn't even know it.

LOL

[Sam Hill]

I don't think these half sized bills would fool anybody.

Well, maybe you. LOL!

[Tamzee]

That list hit me like a punch in the gut.... I can't believe how much success MoveOn.org bought last week :-(

Goodnight, now that you've given me nightmares... arghhh.

[BigSkyFreeper]

I am truly sorry about that. You can dish out suitable punishment to me at a later time. Good night, sweet dreams, and sleep WELL.

:)

[BigSkyFreeper]

Never mind the fact that Schmuck orchestrated the GOP circle firing squad from behind closed doors.

[Gondring]

Many people seemed to have learned the lesson fine--don't vote for Republicans with the expectation that their actions will follow their words. Being a lemming is stepping out of the arena.

[GoLightly]

I'm an independent, but vote like I'm a member of the GOP in the general elections. It's called picking my battles, something that seems to be unheard of for some around here.

My Congressman, Jim Sensenbrenner just got a demotion. I will never forget the night he had a showdown against the Senate about the border.

Now he's gonna get to sit in through tons of investigations. It's about all we're gonna be hearing for the next 2 years, to make sure the GOP is more tarnished before 2008. You'll be seeing lies treated as truth, splashing across the headlines, day in & day out.

[jjm2111]

Anecdotally, it's amazing how many people are 'ok' with abortion. From talking w/ friends and acquaintences, even self-styled 'conservatives' many have no problems w/ abortion. sad.

Good on you for opposing it.

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

Some of the Bozos out there can't get past that word “God,” so they would just piss the entire country away and join the enemies of America; all because they have this polemic need to bash the Christians and do everything in contravention to them. I say screw them and the filthy practices they want to live by. My children are not going to inherit their squalor if I can help it.

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

Are all cultures equal? Hell no...

Only a cultural Marxist would think so.

[megatherium]

Thanks for the details, it certainly disproves the notion that the Libertarians caused the Republican debacle.

Schansberg is an interesting fellow. He's a devout Evangelical Christian, active in the largest local megachurch (16,000-member Southeast Christian Church), and he's an economics professor at a regional campus of Indiana University. He calls himself a pro-life Libertarian and he has written a sizable book, Turn Neither to the Right Nor the Left, detailing why Libertarianism and Evangelical Christianity are compatible. (He was unable to find a publisher interested in both subjects, so he self-published on 'Alertness Press'.)

[uncbob]

Not your fault totally, JFK had GREAT speechwriters.... and there was no Free Republic to cut through the fluff and frosting ;-)

Not altogether

I remember the JFK Nixon debate--Nixon was saying what I thought was right but I just knew REP BAD--DEM GOOD and by the time LBJ came around for re-election there were enough messages out if I wanted to listen but again GOP BAD--DEM GOOD

I was knee jerk yanking levers with no real thought process

Those that DIDN'T vote were really more honest with themselves than I was

[Dead Corpse]

An ineffective, low pressure hose does me no good. Guess I'm screwed.

Hey... at least its water. Maybe with enough "low pressure hoses", we can finally get that fire put out. The alternative is to continue to pour either gas or oil on the fire.

[Dead Corpse]

Cite why the ACU ratings are inaccurate.

Even more instructive, cite why you are trying to use the failure of conservatives to get re-elected as an excuse to drag us all Leftward? You WANT the GOP to be more liberal? To try and out Democrat the Democrats? Why don't you just vote Dem and leave the rest of us alone?

[Dead Corpse]

Libertarians are such liars. Here is their official "stance" on abortion:

That is the LP. Also note, that it goes further than the Republican platform in as much as the LP is against Roe V Wade in so much as the LP's stated position is that it should be a States issue to decide.

But, since that doesn't fit in your narrow little preconcieved notions and it doesn't further your lies about "l"ibertarian philosophy, you'll ignore it and move on to the next twisting of words and ignorance of facts.