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Most Reliable Cars
CNNMoney.com ^ | 11/9/2006 | CNNMoney.com

Posted on 11/09/2006 1:20:48 PM PST by eraser2005

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- The Ford Fusion midsized car and its Mercury Milan sibling scored big in Consumer Reports' annual new car reliability survey, just beating out the industry's quality standard-bearers, the Honda Accord V6 and Toyota Camry V6.

But, overall, Japanese brands are still the ones to beat. Of the 47 vehicles with the highest predicted reliability, 39 are Japanese. Of those, all but seven are made by Toyota or Honda.

American cars are continuing to improve in reliability, however, according to Consumer Reports' surveys.

The "predicted reliability" rankings appear in the 2007 New Car Preview issue of Consumer Reports magazine.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: autoshop; cars; ford; honda; toyota
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To: NYFriend

A 340 Dart? Maybe. You're not thinking of the Road Runner, are you?


41 posted on 11/09/2006 1:48:19 PM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Spktyr
Thanks for the info on that.

The guy on the radio also pointed out that Toyota owners should ignore all maintenance recommendations from Toyota and instead maintain their vehicles at "standard" intervals for various things. He made it sound like the owner's manual on a Camry recommends an oil change every 75,000 miles or so. LOL.

42 posted on 11/09/2006 1:48:28 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: NYFriend
By golly, there WAS a 340 Dart.
43 posted on 11/09/2006 1:51:19 PM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Spktyr
Could be.

It's also deceptive because the F-150 is a single model, while Chevrolet and GMC are listed as two separate models by General Motors.

The combined GM models kick @ss against Ford, I think. I just don't say that in public. LOL.

44 posted on 11/09/2006 1:51:49 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Alberta's Child

Actually, the manual for my XKR (not pictured) says that I should do 10,000 mile oil changes. I believe the Camry manual says the same, though I don't own one. Manufacturers have been going to more and more extended maintenance intervals - some because their tech is good for it, some because the car will probably be traded in before the damage caused will be evident. My friend's Ford Ranger's manual has a similarly bizzare maintenance interval listing.

Me? Oil change every 3K, transmission and diff every 30K, coolant every two years (despite the fact that I'm using 5/100 coolant now).


45 posted on 11/09/2006 1:51:50 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Brad Cloven

Profits to Japan.


46 posted on 11/09/2006 1:53:14 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: Toby06

My first car was a 1960 Valiant with the "big" slant 6. I paid $450 for it in 1966 with 50,000 miles. I drove it through college and sold it to my brother. When I got out of the Navy it had 255,000 miles on it with no major repairs. The dealer called me and wanted to buy it back; he wanted the engine. So I sold it to him for $400. As far as I know that slant six is still powering some irrigation pump out in South Dakota. I thought the car was really ugly at the time, now I wish I had it back!


47 posted on 11/09/2006 1:53:18 PM PST by Nakota
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To: eraser2005

The Mariner is based off the Euro-design chassis of the Mondeo. :-P


48 posted on 11/09/2006 1:55:27 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr
I drive a 1994 Ford Explorer. I do oil every 5,000 miles and transmission fluid every four oil changes.

I think the combination of the frequent trans fluid changes and the heavy-duty cooling system (including a separate radiator for the trans fluid) has really extended the life of the powertrain. It's got 315,000 miles on it, and when I had a compression test done on it last year the mechanic told me he thought his equipment was malfunctioning because he was getting readings that were consistent with a vehicle that had 75,000 miles on it.

49 posted on 11/09/2006 1:56:06 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: antiRepublicrat
Finally our auto industry got the message. Competition is good.

94 Lincoln Town Car. 248,000 miles. Just minor maintenance.

50 posted on 11/09/2006 1:56:17 PM PST by Dan(9698)
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To: Parley Baer

And 90-some percent of the price stays in the US and employs US workers, whereas if you buy a GM or Dodge, 90 percent of the price goes to MEXICO.

Which would you rather have? $26,000 staying here and employing lots of US workers, or $4,000 staying here and employing a couple of US workers?


51 posted on 11/09/2006 1:57:17 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: eraser2005
I still say CR can't properly distinguish the difference between the top models and average models, but this throws a wrench into many people's arguments...

I think that attitude is one of the problems of American cars. You mustn't make a Chevy as good of quality as a Cadillac. I was very worried that Honda, Toyota and Nissan would follow that model when they brought out the Accura, Lexus and Infiniti. Fortunately they haven't fallen into that trap.

I think that's one reason why American trucks don't seem to have this problem - they don't have quite the stratification of name plates within a company.

52 posted on 11/09/2006 1:57:27 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Hey Kerry, What part of showing heels and ass is a winning strategy in Iraq?)
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To: Spktyr

'96 Toyota Avalon- 252,000 miles. Excellent shape.


53 posted on 11/09/2006 1:59:11 PM PST by Kibbylou
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To: Parley Baer
Profits to Japan.

No. Profits to shareholders -- wherever they may be.

Toyota Motor Corp. trades on the New York Stock Exchange, under the ticker symbol TM.

54 posted on 11/09/2006 1:59:27 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: KarlInOhio

Actually, they do. Compare the Cadillac trucks to their Chevy/GM counterparts - or the Lincoln trucks to their Ford counterparts.

The higher scale trucks are screwed together better.


55 posted on 11/09/2006 1:59:51 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Sadly, the F-150 doesn't make the top ten, if reliability translates into residual values.

Top 10 Trucks and SUVs With the Best Residual Value
By Warren Clarke
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About to purchase a new truck or sport-utility vehicle? Your bank account will owe you a debt of gratitude if you select one that doesn't lose too much of its value to depreciation. With resale value in mind, we've compiled this list of the 10 pickups and SUVs likely to depreciate the least during ownership. Included is the percentage of its original value that each vehicle is likely to retain after five years with an annual mileage of 15,000. Our residual value percentages are based on each vehicle's national True Market Value (TMV®) price, plus typical options and destination charge. Rankings and figures are updated monthly.

1. 2006 Toyota 4Runner — 49.3%

2. 2006 Honda CR-V — 49.0%

3. 2006 Toyota Sequoia — 48.9%

Lexus GX 470 — 48.9%

5. 2006 Toyota RAV4 — 48.8%

6. 2006 Jeep Wrangler — 48.6%

7. 2006 Toyota Tundra — 48.4%

8. 2006 Toyota Tacoma — 48.0%

9. 2006 Ford F-350 Super Duty — 47.2%

10. 2006 Acura MDX — 47.0%


56 posted on 11/09/2006 2:00:51 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Osama Wins!)
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To: Nakota
Opel had some bullet-proof motors in their Kadets and GTs.

They made the enginge block from half a Pontiac 389 casting.

57 posted on 11/09/2006 2:03:28 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Oberon
68 HEMI Dart, nasty, just freaking nasty!!!!!
58 posted on 11/09/2006 2:08:42 PM PST by lwg8tr
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To: Nakota

Thta's a hell of a trick selling your brothers car for $400.

Yeah, they were decent motors. Nothing sexy, but got the job done.

Btw, they were fugly. You're right.


59 posted on 11/09/2006 2:10:01 PM PST by Toby06 (jon carry is a piece of s#it)
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To: eraser2005

Ferd Fusion = Mazda 6....


60 posted on 11/09/2006 2:10:48 PM PST by fhlh (Since 11/7/06, The MSM has failed to inform me about any of our soldiers dying in Iraq)
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