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Muslim Student Groups Praise Authorities For Handling Of Koran Incidents
http://www.ny1.com/ ^ | October 19, 2006 | Solana Pyne

Posted on 10/21/2006 12:01:33 PM PDT by lowbridge

Muslim Student Groups Praise Authorities For Handling Of Koran Incidents

October 19, 2006

Representatives of city Muslim organizations gathered Thursday to condemn two possible anti-Muslim bias crimes at Pace University. But as Criminal Justice Reporter Solana Pyne explains in the following report, the groups are impressed with authorities for the way they're investigating the incidents.

In the space of a month there have been two separate incidents where a Koran, the Muslim holy book, was found in a Pace University toilet. The most recent was found just last Friday.

"This is no different from placing a burning cross in front of a house or painting a swastika on a locker," said Aliya Latif of the Muslim-American Lawyers Association.

Representatives of New York Muslim organizations came together Thursday to make sure the incidents aren't forgotten, even as they praised the way authorities are handling them.

"We spoke to [the] NYPD yesterday and they said they are doing everything they could to make sure there will be an arrest. They will work really hard on this," said Omar T Mohammedi of the American-Islamic Relations Council.

The Pace Muslim Students association, which criticized the University for not being aggressive enough in its handling of the first incident where a library copy of the Koran was found in the library toilet, praised the administration's actions this time.

"I would say that the university has kind of done a 180 and is definitely working with us in terms of labeling it as a hate crime and then, the sensitivity forums that I spoke about earlier, they're actually helping us facilitate those," said Faiza Ali of the Muslim Students Association.

Pace University released a statement on Thursday in response to the incidents announcing an anti-hate campaign.

"Pace University has aggressively reached out to our many student organizations and campus councils that are concerned with promoting acceptance and combating intolerance," said part of the statement. "All of them are responding with deep concern and constructive suggestions; we are very united."

The Muslim Students Association said the fact that these incidents happened here on campus has made some fear for their safety. But they say that overall the reaction of other students has been more than reassuring.

"We actually have been welcomed by a lot of student groups on campus that have been standing in solidarity with us," said Ali.

And they are standing in solidarity with others in two more possible bias-related incidents over the last month, directed toward other groups.

"The same week that the first incident occurred with the Koran, that Friday a swastika and racial slurs were spray painted on a bathroom stall in Pace University,” said Ali. “In our Westchester campus on someone's car there were racial slurs spray painted as well."

The NYPD hate crimes task force is investigating all four incidents. So far they haven't identified any suspects.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: dhimmi; dhimmitude; fakehatecrimes; islam; koran; muslim; muslims; pace; rop; sharia; shariainamerica; trop; whiningmuslims
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To: EnochPowellWasRight
There you go again ~ I just informed you that ORTHODOX CHRISTIANS who speak Arabic use the word "Allah" to refer to God ~ the same God as you and I and Orthodox Jews.

How about that ~ what the non-Christians do is their own business.

41 posted on 10/21/2006 5:17:50 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

"There you go again ~ I just informed you that ORTHODOX CHRISTIANS who speak Arabic use the word "Allah" to refer to God ~ the same God as you and I and Orthodox Jews."

I should think it was blindingly obvious that in a thread discussing Islam that a reference to Allah referred to Mohammad's Allah, not Yahweh. That would require (1) reading skills and (2) ability to stay on topic.

"How about that ~ what the non-Christians do is their own business."

The Allah of the Koran is Satan. How about that? Going to debate that? Going to claim that I blaspheme? Do you have ANY point here?


42 posted on 10/21/2006 5:21:03 PM PDT by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: EnochPowellWasRight
YOu misstated yourself and were overbroad in your claim concerning the word "Allah".

You've had quite enough time to practice upon this so that you do not make that mistake.

43 posted on 10/21/2006 5:26:11 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
"YOu misstated yourself and were overbroad in your claim concerning the word "Allah"."

Utterly ridiculous. This is a thread discussing Islam. As such, a reference to "Mohammad" in this thread would ordinarily be understood by anyone paying the slightest attention to refer to the prophet of Islam, not a boxer or any of the myriad other people named "Mohammad". Same with a reference to Allah. English speakers would never refer to God as "Allah", but Islam's god is always called that in our language.

For two reasons RIGHT THERE, you have no point.

"You've had quite enough time to practice upon this so that you do not make that mistake."

Oh, do get over yourself. Perhaps when you learn the definition of "context" you can get back to me.
44 posted on 10/21/2006 5:30:50 PM PDT by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: lowbridge
The ones who put the Koran in the toilet are to blame. It was really stupid. There's no way a Koran could go down the opening into the sewer. They should have taken the pages out and wiped with them instead. LOL! Oopsy, is that a hate crime? ;o)
45 posted on 10/21/2006 5:31:53 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (THOSE WHO LIVE BY THE SWORD GET SHOT BY THOSE WHO DON*T!)
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To: EnochPowellWasRight
When you misuse a word, that's the context.

The subject matter is the feigned indignation of a bunch of hypocrites at the idea flushing a Koran could be offensive.

It's not.

On the other hand, theirs and your misuse of the word "Allah" is offensive. You I can get to; those schmucks I can't, so you'll have to be their stand in.

46 posted on 10/21/2006 5:34:54 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: lowbridge
...a Koran, the Muslim holy book, was found in a Pace University toilet...

This is wrong?

47 posted on 10/21/2006 5:35:54 PM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (Buy 'Allah' brand urinal cakes - If you can't kill the enemy at least you can piss on their god)
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To: lowbridge
I swear I am so tempted to go to the local University and put a bible in the toilet just to see what DOESN'T happen... I am quite sure no one will have noticed at all... probably has been done.

No one cared when Marilyn Manson urinated on it during a concert... lets see him to that to the Koran and get away with it. I just don't understand.
48 posted on 10/21/2006 5:38:49 PM PDT by ljswisc
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To: muawiyah
"When you misuse a word, that's the context. "

Oh, please. I did not. Allah most clearly referred to Mohammad's god. Calling their god by the name generally used in ENGLISH (Allah) is not a misuse of the word.

"On the other hand, theirs and your misuse of the word "Allah" is offensive. "

So, Muslims misuse the word "allah" when they talk about their "Allah"? You have issues, sonny. I will NOT stop speaking out against Islam, Mohammad, and Mohammad's god.

I do not care what you think on the matter.
49 posted on 10/21/2006 5:39:47 PM PDT by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: EnochPowellWasRight
Just make sure you do not speak out against Christianity while doing so ~ which, unfortunately, you did in this thread.

It's that sloppy thinking Franklin Graham spreads around that's ruined your ability to speak clearly. You'll never see John Hagee make that mistake.

50 posted on 10/21/2006 5:44:49 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: lowbridge; All
So! What's the problem????
It's the best "paper" known to humankind......
Much better than Charmin.........

It's In The Koran!
Click the Pic

51 posted on 10/21/2006 5:51:17 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: lowbridge
In the space of a month there have been two separate incidents where a Koran, the Muslim holy book, was found in a Pace University toilet.

I can't think of a better place to put it.

"This is no different from placing a burning cross in front of a house or painting a swastika on a locker," said Aliya Latif of the Muslim-American Lawyers Association.

....or saying that Israel should be wiped off the map.

I would say that the university has kind of done a 180 and is definitely working with us in terms of labeling it as a hate crime

The Koran is the playbook of hate crimes.

The Muslim Students Association said the fact that these incidents happened here on campus has made some fear for their safety.

Too funny. I guarantee that their 'fears' don't encompass severed heads. Nameably theirs.

52 posted on 10/21/2006 5:52:28 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse (Unite)
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To: muawiyah
"Just make sure you do not speak out against Christianity while doing so ~ which, unfortunately, you did in this thread."

I did NOTHING OF THE SORT. Just what word would pass muster with you to refer to Mohammad's god? Do you not know the eytmology of "allah"? "Allah" (possibly Illah - there are many variations) was originally the name of the pagan moon god deity (among others) worshiped in Mecca before Mohammad. That it later became the word for "god" in Arabic doesn't change that.

How on Earth could a mention of "Allah" in a thread referring to Muslims and the Koran POSSIBLY be seen as "speaking out against Christianity"?

BTW, I'm no student of Franklin Graham. In fact, I've never heard him speak once in my entire life. You can take your "sloppy thinking" and recognize it for the projection it is.
53 posted on 10/21/2006 5:56:50 PM PDT by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: Nathan Zachary

You are so right My MAN, I will throw Ham gravy on them! and than turn the DOGS LOOSE.


54 posted on 10/21/2006 8:01:00 PM PDT by wolfey1
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To: Founding Father

NEW YORKERS,You got to love them. Just tell Me who is the lucky officer thats gets the Honor of dusting for prints? let me guess, Lt Det. MO-MAMMA, It is no wonder that a carpetbagger like H Clinton Is a Senator! OH just try to picture A cop with a hairdryer and a pi$$ soaked KORAN, TOO funny.. I can just hear them talking now,Lt MO how you comming along on solving the Floating KORAN case? I'm a WEE-WEE-BIT behind Chief!,keep having to go to the bath room.Lt don't try to sandbag Me, I want this case solved. The whole free world is at stake.I'll DOO-DOO My best Chief...


55 posted on 10/21/2006 9:32:17 PM PDT by wolfey1
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To: Founding Father

"As the NYPD strives to clear this heinous crime, hopefully they'll think about that hole where the Twin Towers were."

Amen.


56 posted on 10/22/2006 9:09:35 PM PDT by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: muawiyah

A printed Bible is still just a book. We don't worship a book. There are, on the other hand, Moslems who literally worship copies of the Koran like they were little idols.


Alas, I know plenty of Christians who do that: They would be horrified at the old adage "I believe in the Father, the Son and the Holy Bible" but it is appropriate to their thinking, nonetheless.


57 posted on 10/23/2006 12:52:25 AM PDT by Vanders9
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