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Scan hints Mona Lisa pregnant for pose (was La Joconde pregnant?)
Associated Press ^ | 09/27/06

Posted on 09/27/2006 11:37:35 AM PDT by presidio9

Researchers using three-dimensional technology to study the "Mona Lisa" say the woman depicted in Leonardo da Vinci's 16th century masterpiece was either pregnant or had recently given birth when she sat for the painting.

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That was one of many discoveries found by French and Canadian researchers during one of the most extensive physical examinations ever carried out on the artwork.

"Thanks to laser scanning, we were able to uncover the very fine gauze veil Mona Lisa was wearing on her dress. This was something typical for either soon-to-be or new mothers at the time," Michel Menu, research director of the French Museums' Center for Research and Restoration, said Wednesday on LCI television.

Menu said a number of art historians had suggested that she was pregnant or had just given birth.

Researchers have established that the picture was of Lisa Gherardini, wife of obscure Florentine merchant Francesco del Giocond, and that Leonardo started painting it in 1503.

The name "Mona Lisa" is the equivalent of "Madame Lisa." La Joconde, as the painting is referred to in many countries, is the French version of her married name.

The scan revealed depth resolution so detailed it was possible to see differences in the height around the paint surface cracks and in the thickness of the varnish.

"We now have very precise information about the thickness of the layers," Bruno Mottin, of the French restoration center, told reporters in Ottawa, Canada. "We know how the painting is painted, with very thin layers of painting. That's one of the things we couldn't see by the naked eye, and that Canadian technology brought us."

John Taylor of Canada's National Research Council said there were no signs of any brush stroke. "That includes the very fine details of the embroidery on the dress, the hair," he said. "This is the 'je ne sais quoi' of Leonardo. The genius. We don't know how he applied it."

The scan even revealed Leonardo's first conception of Mona Lisa.

"The 3-D imaging was able to detect the incised drawing to provide us with da Vinci's general conception for the composition," said Christian Lahanier, head of the documentation department of the French research center.

The artist brought the painting to France in 1517. It has been in the Louvre Museum since 1804.

The data collected in 16 hours of scanning, starting in 2004, took a year to analyze. It shows warping in the poplar panel Leonardo used as his canvas, but the Mona Lisa smile is not threatened.

"We didn't see any sign of paint lifting," Taylor said. "So for a 500-year-old painting, it's very good news. And if they continue to keep it the way they have in an environment-controlled chamber, it could remain like that for a very long time."

Menu said all the secrets behind the enigmatic painting have yet to be revealed, including Leonardo's techniques.

"We particularly want to understand how he painted his shadows, the famous 'fumato' effect," Menu said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: davinci; florence; godsgravesglyphs; idhitthat; italy; leonardo; leonardodavinci; monalisa; santissimaannunziata; whopaysforthis; yourtaxdollarsatwork
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To: presidio9

Don't go mentioning this in Frisco Texas. Nudity and Pregnancy are not politically correct educational topics.


21 posted on 09/27/2006 12:02:38 PM PDT by Young Werther
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To: Sax

You know, I was thinking the exact same thing.


22 posted on 09/27/2006 12:08:02 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: presidio9

Why do you think she was smiling? She was getting hosed big time!


23 posted on 09/27/2006 12:10:23 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Ronald Reagan didn't turn me into a Republican....Jimmy Carter did that!!)
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To: CremeSaver
When Europe becomes Eurabia and great pieces of art are no longer allowed can we have this one? Also, I would like to have Holbein's Anne of Cleves, a very lovely portrait.

This one? I agree.

Imagine a world without this... or the Venus de Milo... or Stephan Lochner's "The Virgin in the Rose Garden"....

24 posted on 09/27/2006 12:11:57 PM PDT by 6323cd ("It is prohibited to make use of such emotional signs in a cellphone!")
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To: presidio9

I've always felt Mona Lisa needed eyebrows.


25 posted on 09/27/2006 12:19:15 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: 6323cd

That's the very one, isn't it beautiful? Look at her eyes. If the eyes are truly windows to the soul than this lady is lovely indeed. I know all that has been said of her "she that was dull, stupid, without grace of form, knew no music and could not sing, blah, blah etc," but to me, I though her the loveliest of Henry the VIIIth's wives. Thanks for posting this. :O)


26 posted on 09/27/2006 12:19:22 PM PDT by CremeSaver (Clinton has ugly hands.)
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To: CremeSaver

Remove Notre Dame brick by brick and bring it to the US. Empty the Lovre and every other museum in Europe that has artwork that would be destroyed/banned under Sharia Law.


27 posted on 09/27/2006 12:21:53 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: CremeSaver

Henry VIII had a vested interest in letting the "dull, stupid, without grace of form" etc slander get about; personally, I don't believe it, I'll believe Holbein's painting, she is serenely beautiful.


28 posted on 09/27/2006 12:22:55 PM PDT by 6323cd ("It is prohibited to make use of such emotional signs in a cellphone!")
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To: Kirkwood
It was the fashion of the day for ladies to shave their eyebrows.
29 posted on 09/27/2006 12:26:15 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: 6323cd
Darn, did it again posted without finishing what I wanted to say. I think of so many of the Renaissance artists who's work will be destroyed like the Buddhist statues in Afghanistan. Western treasures will not fare any better I'm afraid. These people scare me, but worse they infuriate me.
30 posted on 09/27/2006 12:29:20 PM PDT by CremeSaver (Clinton has ugly hands.)
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To: RetiredArmy

I do.


31 posted on 09/27/2006 12:31:25 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: presidio9

It was Tom Hanks...they met while he was filming the DiVinci Code, the had some wine, were talking, their hands accidently touched...well, you know the rest.


32 posted on 09/27/2006 12:31:46 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: presidio9
Somebody send me some grant money for my contention that the subject of "The Scream" was a premature ejaculator.
33 posted on 09/27/2006 12:34:08 PM PDT by toddlintown (Six bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: woofie; presidio9; Sam Cree; Liz; Joe 6-pack; vannrox; giotto; iceskater; Conspiracy Guy; Dolphy; ..

My water broke!


34 posted on 09/27/2006 12:34:25 PM PDT by Lady Jag (People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid.)
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To: Lady Jag
"My water broke!"

Last time I heard that was during the most memorable lap dance of my life...

35 posted on 09/27/2006 12:37:43 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican; 6323cd
I wish we could bring everything here. It make me angry to think that most Euros won't fight for the greatness of our Western Civilization. I think what will happen to them and then I look at what is happening to us. We are not much better. Will we stand and fight? I know half of this country will, but can we win? Debatable. Think of all the music that will be banned, Mozart is already feeling the pinch.

Yes, Henry had a reason for not liking Anne, I think her name was Katherine Howard. LOL! The Duke of Norfolk was very uncomfortable with the idea of a Protestant queen, especially one put forth by Cromwell. Hence his pushing his niece on Henry who was more than eager to accept the girlish Katherine. By the time Anne made her way to England Henry no longer needed an alliance with the Protestant Princes. Poor Anne she never stood a chance against the intrigues of Henry's court.

36 posted on 09/27/2006 12:42:05 PM PDT by CremeSaver (Clinton has ugly hands.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Oh, Joe, Baby!!!

That musta been one looonnng lap dance!


37 posted on 09/27/2006 12:43:09 PM PDT by Lady Jag (People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid.)
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To: CremeSaver

However, she was fortunate enough to live out her life at Hever Castle, and didn't have capital offenses trumped up against her to get her out of the way.


38 posted on 09/27/2006 12:54:38 PM PDT by 6323cd ("It is prohibited to make use of such emotional signs in a cellphone!")
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To: CremeSaver

Don't lop all of the "Euros" into one basket. The Poles have definitley got our back.


39 posted on 09/27/2006 12:59:16 PM PDT by presidio9 (Make Mohammed's day: Shoot a nun in the back.)
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To: woofie

40 posted on 09/27/2006 1:05:13 PM PDT by presidio9 (Make Mohammed's day: Shoot a nun in the back.)
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