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Thai general urges talks with Muslim insurgents (Gen Sondhi is 1st Muslim Head of Thai Army)
Financial Times ^ | September 1 2006 | By Amy Kazmin in Bangkok

Posted on 09/20/2006 3:54:59 AM PDT by excludethis

Thailand must negotiate with leaders of an ethnic Malay Muslim separatist insurgency if it wants to end bloodshed in its troubled Muslim-majority southern provinces, the country’s army chief said on Friday.

General Sondhi Boonyaratkalin said the violence, which has claimed more than 1,500 lives, would not be quelled if authorities only arrested the foot-soldiers of the militancy, but refused to talk to its instigators. “It is necessary to talk to make lasting peace,” Gen Sondhi, the first Muslim to head the Thai army, told Thai journalists on Friday.

ADVERTISEMENT The appeal for talks with insurgents came a day after bombs in 22 banks across the province of Yala exploded almost simultaneously, killing a retired official, and injuring 28 people.

The highly co-ordinated attacks on the banks, including two state-owned Islamic banks, demonstrated the militants’ rising technical capacity, and their willingness to strike at the foundations of the economy of the region, an ethnic Malay Muslim-majority enclave in Buddhist-majority Thailand.

“Nothing is spared,” said Sunai Phasuk, a political analyst with Human Rights Watch. “So far, they have targeted administrative structures, security forces, law enforcement, educational structures, and cultural structures, like Buddhist monks. Now they attack the economic structure, which means nothing put in place by the Thai state is accepted.”

Since the renewed flare-up in January 2004 of a decades-old separatist insurgency, Thaksin Shinawatra, the prime minister, has promised to shower the troubled region with money to accelerate economic growth, while also imposing a state of emergency that allows security forces to use harsh measures to crack down on suspected militants.

Mr Thaksin has, in public, staunchly refused to engage in negotiations to end the long-standing conflict, which has at its roots resistance by ethnic Malay Muslims against forcible assimilation into the Thai state, and resentment at discrimination against them in jobs and education.

Yet behind the scenes, some Thai officials have been quietly engaging over the last year with “certain individuals” – including prominent southern Thai Muslims in political exile – who are seen as potentially able to influence the insurgents.

“The army has been trying to talk with the intellectual leaders of the militant groups,” Mr Sunai said.

However, Mr Sunai said negotiations still faced formidable obstacles, including ensuring that those southern Thai Muslims in contact with officials could actually exert influence on the ground.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: appeasement; coupdetat; enemywithin; fifthcolumn; infiltration; muslimchamberlain; newbaluchistan; thailand
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To: wtc911

"He stopped trying to understand them a while ago and is now focused strictly on enjoying those differences while chasing the gold."

One of my pet theories: you can't "understand" them unless you are them. There's just too much cultural noise to absorb (them) and overcome (us).


41 posted on 09/20/2006 5:43:57 AM PDT by angkor
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To: killjoy; Admin Moderator; excludethis

AM - Please don't remove this story from "Breaking News." The facts that the coup leader is a Muslim and is advocating peace with terrorists are certainly new and important.


43 posted on 09/20/2006 5:53:40 AM PDT by indcons
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To: killjoy

For all we now you are a muslim yourself. This man is clear: Thailand MUST negotiate with leaders of an ethnic Malay Muslim separatist insurgency if it wants to end bloodshed in its troubled Muslim-majority southern provinces, the country’s army chief said on Friday.


44 posted on 09/20/2006 5:54:33 AM PDT by excludethis
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To: killjoy

> I don't need yahoo.com to get my news

And thanks to you, neither do I.

Don't let the killjoys run you off. Oops, bad choice of words.


45 posted on 09/20/2006 5:54:37 AM PDT by dinasour (Pajamahadeen and member of the Head SnowFlake Committee)
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To: killjoy; excludethis
"I LIVE IN THAILAND. I don't need yahoo.com to get my news"

KJ, it is easy to get frustrated fighting the MSM "news" stories (not to mention general hallucinations) foisted on the American public.

After I went through the Cambodia coup in 1997, I spent days trying to explain simple truths to friends and family back in the States. Simple stuff, like there were no extra-judicial hit squads driving around the streets of Phnom Penh and shooting up the place, which the American MSM was reporting *two weeks* after everything had abated.

It didn't end with that, it was simply the most egregious of the exaggerated "news stories" submitted by journos to keep their rather cushy assignments in Phnom Penh. All the rumor fit to print (and which *my* plugged-in and local acquaintances said was flatly untrue or greatly exaggerated).
46 posted on 09/20/2006 5:56:08 AM PDT by angkor
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To: killjoy
Can you please remove this from Breaking News? It is neither, just a rehash of stories from people who nothing about what is going on here in Thailand.

This story is not breaking news, but neither is it a rehash or uninformed. It is background on the new military ruler of the Thai government and thus is important information.

47 posted on 09/20/2006 5:56:23 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Blogger

Bingo. Shades of Austria.


48 posted on 09/20/2006 5:58:03 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: excludethis
For all we now you are a muslim yourself.

ROTFLMAO. Have a good day.

49 posted on 09/20/2006 5:59:37 AM PDT by killjoy (Dirka dirka mohammed jihad! Sherpa sherpa bakalah!)
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To: excludethis

"You are smoking something to believe....."

You are demented to assert that a single - that is one - Muslim in the Thai government could singlehandedly pull off a national coup without the assent, participation, and cooperation of his exclusively Buddhist peers.

Wake up. Look at the facts. Merely on the face of it, this couldn't possibly be a "Muslim coup". 99 percent of those involved are Buddhist (and from what little I understand, the King himself despises Thaksin).


50 posted on 09/20/2006 6:01:44 AM PDT by angkor
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To: angkor

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:jF-JSyzCHO4J:rss.iscabbs.com/getpost.cgi%3Fforum%3D68%26post%3D42862+%22General+Sondhi+Boonyaratkalin%22&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=3

General Sondhi Boonyaratkalin, said last week that the government should rethink its strategy and engage the insurgents in dialogue rather than just arresting or killing them.

"Currently we are hitting the snakes at their tails, and that never makes snakes die," he said. "The strategy must be to talk with the snakes. It is necessary to talk to make lasting peace."

His criticism came after Mr Thaksin accused the military of not doing enough to rein in the fighters he regards as terrorists.

ENOUGH SAID!!


51 posted on 09/20/2006 6:02:38 AM PDT by excludethis
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To: angkor
KJ, it is easy to get frustrated fighting the MSM "news" stories (not to mention general hallucinations) foisted on the American public.

The problem isn't the MSM in this case, it is the absolute ignorance of people who refuse to see facts and let go of whatever agenda they are trying to push.

The facts, as of now, is Thailand is in a much better position to move forward as a nation than it has been in the past 6 months. A lot of very positive things have happened today including Sondhi appointing a committee to look into corruption and the King giving his blessing to what has happened. Of course, these things are not reported on, only how Muslims now control the government. LOL.

52 posted on 09/20/2006 6:04:26 AM PDT by killjoy (Dirka dirka mohammed jihad! Sherpa sherpa bakalah!)
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To: killjoy
Hey, Dude,

I hope you're right, but friends of my parents lived through Hitler's Germany. They were awash in pro-Hitler propaganda that was intended to keep them from seeing anything bad about the guy and what he was actually doing. They were hoodwinked into thinking he was good and a visionary, for example, as he spearheaded the Volkswagen, and had the Autobahnen built.

Claiming to be right just because "you're there" isn't necessarily the be-all and end-all.

At the same time, I still hope you're right. Time will tell. In the mean-time, we can all remain alert.

HF

53 posted on 09/20/2006 6:05:56 AM PDT by holden (holden on'a'na truth, de whole truth, 'n nuttin' but de truth)
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To: killjoy
I LIVE IN THAILAND.

Were you there during the tsunamis? Are you on the coast? Or up in the mountains? I understand from speaking to some friends who also live there (in the mountains) that the lifestyle up high is vastly different than on the coast and that the cost of land and construction is unbelievably low. My buddy lives in a place that he had built (30 years ago) for about $150,000 American and is over 16,000 SQ Ft. Does that sound right?

54 posted on 09/20/2006 6:06:45 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: excludethis
His criticism came after Mr Thaksin accused the military of not doing enough to rein in the fighters he regards as terrorists.

Since you seem to get all your news from Google, try searching for the keywords, "Tak Bai" and "Krue Se". It will give you a better idea of how the Army, under Sondhi, prefers to deal with the southern problems.

55 posted on 09/20/2006 6:06:47 AM PDT by killjoy (Dirka dirka mohammed jihad! Sherpa sherpa bakalah!)
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To: ExSoldier
My buddy lives in a place that he had built (30 years ago) for about $150,000 American and is over 16,000 SQ Ft. Does that sound right?

Wasn't here during the Tsunami luckily. For $150,000 US, approximately 6 million baht, you can get a hell of a nice place in the countryside and literally live like a king. I don't know if you could afford something that big, but then I don't know why anyone would want something that size either...

56 posted on 09/20/2006 6:10:30 AM PDT by killjoy (Dirka dirka mohammed jihad! Sherpa sherpa bakalah!)
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To: killjoy
Yeah, it's been ages since I last was in contact with him. It's possible that it was 6,000 sq ft. Which is a nice sized home.
57 posted on 09/20/2006 6:12:27 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: killjoy

I always thought the "accident" of transporting 600 Muslim terrorist supects across the peninsula, in covered trucks, and in the heat of the midday, was a bit suspect and probably a not-so-subtle message from the Thai military to the terrorists.


58 posted on 09/20/2006 6:14:17 AM PDT by angkor
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To: killjoy
Time will tell what the supposed neutral PM and constitutional changes are about.

GOOD LUCK living there when the concessions in the constitution are all to appease Muslim terrorists!
59 posted on 09/20/2006 6:16:02 AM PDT by excludethis
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To: killjoy

Thank you for your posts in this thread. Your words mean infinately more to me than any agenda pushers here. There are many more lurkers here I am sure that appreciate your posts. Don't get discouraged!


60 posted on 09/20/2006 6:17:32 AM PDT by Paradox (The "smarter" the individual, the greater his power of self-delusion.)
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