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Thai general urges talks with Muslim insurgents (Gen Sondhi is 1st Muslim Head of Thai Army)
Financial Times ^ | September 1 2006 | By Amy Kazmin in Bangkok

Posted on 09/20/2006 3:54:59 AM PDT by excludethis

Thailand must negotiate with leaders of an ethnic Malay Muslim separatist insurgency if it wants to end bloodshed in its troubled Muslim-majority southern provinces, the country’s army chief said on Friday.

General Sondhi Boonyaratkalin said the violence, which has claimed more than 1,500 lives, would not be quelled if authorities only arrested the foot-soldiers of the militancy, but refused to talk to its instigators. “It is necessary to talk to make lasting peace,” Gen Sondhi, the first Muslim to head the Thai army, told Thai journalists on Friday.

ADVERTISEMENT The appeal for talks with insurgents came a day after bombs in 22 banks across the province of Yala exploded almost simultaneously, killing a retired official, and injuring 28 people.

The highly co-ordinated attacks on the banks, including two state-owned Islamic banks, demonstrated the militants’ rising technical capacity, and their willingness to strike at the foundations of the economy of the region, an ethnic Malay Muslim-majority enclave in Buddhist-majority Thailand.

“Nothing is spared,” said Sunai Phasuk, a political analyst with Human Rights Watch. “So far, they have targeted administrative structures, security forces, law enforcement, educational structures, and cultural structures, like Buddhist monks. Now they attack the economic structure, which means nothing put in place by the Thai state is accepted.”

Since the renewed flare-up in January 2004 of a decades-old separatist insurgency, Thaksin Shinawatra, the prime minister, has promised to shower the troubled region with money to accelerate economic growth, while also imposing a state of emergency that allows security forces to use harsh measures to crack down on suspected militants.

Mr Thaksin has, in public, staunchly refused to engage in negotiations to end the long-standing conflict, which has at its roots resistance by ethnic Malay Muslims against forcible assimilation into the Thai state, and resentment at discrimination against them in jobs and education.

Yet behind the scenes, some Thai officials have been quietly engaging over the last year with “certain individuals” – including prominent southern Thai Muslims in political exile – who are seen as potentially able to influence the insurgents.

“The army has been trying to talk with the intellectual leaders of the militant groups,” Mr Sunai said.

However, Mr Sunai said negotiations still faced formidable obstacles, including ensuring that those southern Thai Muslims in contact with officials could actually exert influence on the ground.


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KEYWORDS: appeasement; coupdetat; enemywithin; fifthcolumn; infiltration; muslimchamberlain; newbaluchistan; thailand
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To: Peach; ASA Vet
1,500 people were killed yesterday?

As ASA said, in a word, "No."

I haven't been following it closely, and I will not begin just because of the islamonuts actions, but there has been some Thai and Malay muzzie seperatist Chechen-like type terrorism simmering down there for a long time.

Now I suppose the general thinks he'll just take over the government 'to give them a democratic voice.'

Freaking dictatorial whack-a-mole we got going on these days.

21 posted on 09/20/2006 4:51:42 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: excludethis

It's Hitler all over again. Except this time, the threat isn't one little man but an entire ideology shared by millions. And, just like WW2, the Europeans will not realize the danger they are in until it is too late.


22 posted on 09/20/2006 4:55:39 AM PDT by Blogger
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To: sam_paine
there has been some Thai and Malay muzzie seperatist Chechen-like type terrorism simmering down there for a long time.

These same groups were causing the same type of trouble back in the 60's.
Then though they were using the cover term "communists" in trying to convince the world they were more wide spread than they were.
They also were trying to garner support from the real commies infiltrating upcountry.

Now I suppose the general thinks he'll just take over the government 'to give them a democratic voice.'

General Sondhi will negotiate in the style of Korben Dallas.

23 posted on 09/20/2006 4:57:55 AM PDT by ASA Vet (3.03)
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To: killjoy; Allegra
Sondhi is incredibly well respected and didn't get where he is by chance. He started his career in the military fighting alongside US troops in Vietnam. He went on to head the Thai Army's Special Warfare Command. I know many people who have served under him and they have nothing but respect for the guy.

The posts on FR condeming him are laughable. The posters have no idea what in the world they are talking about. If there is anyone in Thailand who can put an end to the troubles in the South of the country, it is him.

A friend of mine who spends a lot of time in Thailand says pretty much the same thing. But he's a "dirty mohammedan mooselimb" and that is enough to condemn him in the eyes of some here.

Which, of course, is exactly what the Islamofascists want to happen.

-Eric

24 posted on 09/20/2006 5:02:01 AM PDT by E Rocc (Myspace "Freepers" group moderator)
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To: wtc911

"I have never known an American ex-pat who didn't profess to hold a deep and accurate understanding of all the subtleties of the culture that he has embraced."

I have also been an expat and couldn't believe the profound ignorance of some of my acquaintances and friends about local matters. But of course many of them were ensconced in the NGO and journalism worlds.

The expats who did know the scoop were those who had the humility to understand that they didn't understand, and who turned to local friends and colleagues to gain a better grasp of the truth.


25 posted on 09/20/2006 5:03:25 AM PDT by angkor
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To: E Rocc
But he's a "dirty mohammedan mooselimb"
By "he" I meant General Sondhi. Not my source.

-Eric

26 posted on 09/20/2006 5:04:02 AM PDT by E Rocc (Myspace "Freepers" group moderator)
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To: excludethis

This clown just doesn't get it. There is NO 'talking to them'. They are nothing more than bloodthirsty vermin that need to be eradicated.

The sooner the rest of the world understands this, the better. In the meantime, Islam will do nothing more than spread death, destruction, pain, fear, anguish, and hatred.

Such a lovely 'religion', ain't it?


27 posted on 09/20/2006 5:05:48 AM PDT by RightOnline
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To: killjoy

Hey Killjoy, love that tagline!!


28 posted on 09/20/2006 5:10:59 AM PDT by true_blue_texican
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To: excludethis

Hey, maybe we found a "moderate" muslim to speak up for the religion of peace and lead the way to peaceful co-existence with us infidels- complete with his own army, of course (he'll need it).


29 posted on 09/20/2006 5:12:38 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Illegal Immigration IS a WMD!)
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To: angkor

Thanks for your honesty. My brother is doing the ex-pat thing in Beijing. He's a bright, experienced guy and realizes that some differences are too large and complex to be truly grasped. He stopped trying to understand them a while ago and is now focused strictly on enjoying those differences while chasing the gold.


30 posted on 09/20/2006 5:13:09 AM PDT by wtc911 (You can't get there from here)
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To: killjoy

Thank you for your reply. We shall see. I would think that there would be great trepidation about a Muslim army Chief of staff in a country that is 90+ per cent Buddhist. Maybe he can reach across the gulf.


31 posted on 09/20/2006 5:20:37 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: E Rocc

Yes, he's such a reasonable, moderate muslim, the first thing he wants to do is have a dialogue with the terrorist separatists.

The problem with Islam isn't just the "islamofascist" wing. It's the so-called "moderates" who enable and excuse fanaticism.

Where is the voice of moderate Islam? Are there any world figures whose word carries the weight of Osama and Co., or the Iranian mullahs, who are out there ripping and condemning the terrorists? If there are, it sure isn't getting reported, and muslims aren't out in the streets shouting their support of it.

So who the hell wants to hear your assessment of posters here who deride muslims for their widespread support for violence? Especially when you ignore the fact that posters here have questioned this general not merely because he's muslim, but because the first thing he wants to do after his coup is have a dialogue with the terrorists?


32 posted on 09/20/2006 5:21:44 AM PDT by olderwiser
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To: Truth29; All

Has anyone noticed that this coup took place AFTER John Mark Carr got extradicted??????????

Just waiting for Glenn Beck to tie this in with something else.


33 posted on 09/20/2006 5:23:33 AM PDT by TheRobb7 (How many Democrats will YOU elect by staying home on Election Day????)
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To: E Rocc; killjoy; Allegra
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060920/ap_on_re_as/thailand

Army chief Gen. Sondhi Boonyaratkalin "promised . . . to act as prime minister . . . until a new leader "who is neutral and upholds democracy" is found and a temporary constitution is enacted."

. . . .

The newly created Council of Administrative Reform put the country under martial law . . . ."

. . . .


SO WE HAVE A MUSLIM MILITARY LEADER THAT TAKES OVER THE COUNTRY BECAUSE AFTER COMPLAINING THE CURRENT GOVERNMENT WON'T NEGOTIATE WITH A BUNCH OF MUSLIM TERRORISTS. THIS GREAT MILITARY LEADER MAKES HIMSELF PM TO MAKE CONSITUTIONAL CHANGES AND INSTALL SUPPOSED NEUTRAL PM! YOU WANT US TO BELEIVE THE NEUTRAL PM AND CONSTITUTIONAL CHANGES HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ONGOING DEFEAT OF THE MUSLIM TERRORISTS! YEAH RIGHT!
34 posted on 09/20/2006 5:27:44 AM PDT by excludethis
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To: Truth29
Thank you for your reply. We shall see. I would think that there would be great trepidation about a Muslim army Chief of staff in a country that is 90+ per cent Buddhist. Maybe he can reach across the gulf.

The simple fact that in the local news there has been absolutely no criticism of Sondhi being Muslim shows that it is a non-issue. If people were concerned, you would know. The only people making this an issue are journalists outside the country looking for an angle to push.

35 posted on 09/20/2006 5:28:27 AM PDT by killjoy (Dirka dirka mohammed jihad! Sherpa sherpa bakalah!)
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To: excludethis
SO WE HAVE A MUSLIM MILITARY LEADER THAT TAKES OVER THE COUNTRY BECAUSE AFTER COMPLAINING THE CURRENT GOVERNMENT WON'T NEGOTIATE WITH A BUNCH OF MUSLIM TERRORISTS. THIS GREAT MILITARY LEADER MAKES HIMSELF PM TO MAKE CONSITUTIONAL CHANGES AND INSTALL SUPPOSED NEUTRAL PM! YOU WANT US TO BELEIVE THE NEUTRAL PM AND CONSTITUTIONAL CHANGES HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ONGOING DEFEAT OF THE MUSLIM TERRORISTS! YEAH RIGHT!

Dude, bump up the meds, they are wearing off. I LIVE IN THAILAND. I don't need yahoo.com to get my news, I am living it right now. You can spin it however you want, it does not make it true. Sondhi is about as anti-terrorist as you can get. He has no love at all for them.

36 posted on 09/20/2006 5:32:05 AM PDT by killjoy (Dirka dirka mohammed jihad! Sherpa sherpa bakalah!)
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To: All

this is just more WW III breaking out worldwide and it's going to be the world against the muslims.


37 posted on 09/20/2006 5:32:07 AM PDT by SunnyUsa (No man really becomes a fool until he stops asking questions.)
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To: ASA Vet
General Sondhi will negotiate in the style of Korben Dallas.




"All right, who else wants to negotiate?"

Do you mean he'll shoot the separatists, or just anyone who gets in his way?
38 posted on 09/20/2006 5:37:43 AM PDT by reformedliberal ("Eliminate the mullahs and Islam shall disappear in fifty years." Ayatollah Khomeini)
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To: killjoy
You are smoking something to believe that a Muslim that complained 2 weeks ago about the current government refusing to negotiate with his Muslim brothers has now taken over your country for some other reason!
39 posted on 09/20/2006 5:38:27 AM PDT by excludethis
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To: excludethis
You are smoking something to believe that a Muslim that complained 2 weeks ago about the current government refusing to negotiate with his Muslim brothers has now taken over your country for some other reason!

Sondhi didn't take over the government by himself. Everyone else involved including the head of the Royal Thai Navy, the current #2 in the coup, is Buddhist. The King, the head of Buddhism in Thailand, just gave his approval to what Sondhi is doing. Give me a break. I understand you have an agenda you need to push, but doing in this situation just makes you look like a fool.

40 posted on 09/20/2006 5:42:41 AM PDT by killjoy (Dirka dirka mohammed jihad! Sherpa sherpa bakalah!)
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