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Awesome piece. Must-read ping!
1 posted on 09/10/2006 5:38:03 AM PDT by voletti
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To: voletti

Definitely useful. As humanity in its current form is incapable of reaching reasonable speed in interstellar travel, it is obvious that GOD sees humanity as an intermediate stage to some biomechanical droid life form.


2 posted on 09/10/2006 5:44:12 AM PDT by Schweinhund
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No intelligent designer would have put the genomes of living organisms together in the way that evolution has. Some parts overlap, meaning that they cannot change jobs independently of one another. Others have lost their function but have not been removed, so they simply clutter things up. And there is no sense of organisation or hierarchy. That is because, unlike an engineer, evolution cannot go back to the drawing board, it can merely play with what already exists. we don't know everything about genetics yet and so can't make the determination of why things are the way they are.

In order to make these blanket statements, scientists would need to demonstrate that they indeed know all there is to know about all DNA and WHY it's the way it is. They're presuming they know more than an intelligent designer capable of creating an entire universe and the life in it. A bit presumptuous.

5 posted on 09/10/2006 6:00:33 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: voletti

Barbara Streisand initial premise. Teosinte to corn is a fine counter example. Tagline...


6 posted on 09/10/2006 6:11:34 AM PDT by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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To: voletti

It's inevitable. The more we learn about genetics, the mopre we learn how to manipulate them. It is only a mkatter of time until someone somewhere synthesizes an organism that has no natural analog. Hopefully, it won't be some apocalyptic plague.


7 posted on 09/10/2006 6:29:46 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: voletti
In the short run such engineering means assembling genes from different organisms to create new metabolic pathways or even new organisms.

Or assembling genes from scratch.

13 posted on 09/11/2006 2:36:32 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: PatrickHenry

Ping? (these days I don't know which are "good" threads ;)


17 posted on 09/11/2006 2:46:01 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (the war on poverty should include health club memberships for the morbidly poor)
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To: voletti

I don't understand the (Science Plays God) byline...


18 posted on 09/11/2006 2:46:56 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (the war on poverty should include health club memberships for the morbidly poor)
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To: voletti
In the short run such engineering means assembling genes from different
organisms to create new metabolic pathways or even new organisms.


And many countries in Europe and around the world would ban even
beneficial alterations.

Because:
1. They don't understand the work
2. They don't want to pay for improved product they think they should get for free.
26 posted on 09/11/2006 3:13:51 PM PDT by VOA
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>As an engineer, he can recognise a kludge when he sees one. And life, in his opinion, is a kludge

Aren't Ford autos
designed by engineers? What
will those guys whip up

when they turn their skills
to cranking out new life forms?!
Yeah. They'll be good gods . . .

39 posted on 09/11/2006 3:39:27 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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Dr Endy ... can recognise a kludge when he sees one. And life, in his opinion, is a kludge.

Indeed.

59 posted on 09/11/2006 5:19:59 PM PDT by edsheppa
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Life 2.0 (Science plays God)

So... Why is recombining or tweaking genes considered "playing God" while planting corn isn't?

64 posted on 09/11/2006 5:30:51 PM PDT by Ichneumon (Ignorance is curable, but the afflicted has to want to be cured.)
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To: PatrickHenry; b_sharp; neutrality; anguish; SeaLion; Fractal Trader; grjr21; bitt; KevinDavis; ...
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100 posted on 09/11/2006 11:39:44 PM PDT by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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Human creatures will not be able to create life, nor should they attempt to do so. Life 2.0 displays an enormous amount of arrogance, moreso than even a 1.5 or something in the 1 range. Humanity could return to its state before the Flood (people lived past 900 years), but man was CREATED perfect.
103 posted on 09/12/2006 12:12:46 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( Microevolution is real; Macroevolution is not real.)
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To: voletti

Why is it that the Macroevolutionists seem to always try to get the last post on what end out becoming crevo threads?


119 posted on 09/12/2006 1:27:21 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( Microevolution is real; Macroevolution is not real.)
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To: voletti

I for one welcome our new bio-robot overlords.


133 posted on 09/12/2006 8:04:14 AM PDT by Truth-The Anti Spin
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To: voletti

Read-later-ping


166 posted on 09/12/2006 12:21:23 PM PDT by WardMClark (Semi-Notorious Political Gadfly)
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