Posted on 08/27/2006 4:38:10 AM PDT by BigBlueJon
Edited on 08/27/2006 5:02:21 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Possible plane crash in Lexington, KY. My brother works security for Lexington UK Hospital and was just called in. No news locally or on major news outlets yet. I didn't want to post anything for fear of being wrong, but he's still waiting for an official call while on stand-by.
Update from WTVQ 36 Lexington:
A plane has crashed near the Blue Grass Airport this morning. No word on details at this time. We are told it was a commercial aircraft. Versailles Road is blocked as emergency vehicles circle around the site. We have live coverage beginning at 7:20am. Stay with Action News 36 for more details.
Also, along taxiway A at the intersection of runway 8/26, there would be big red signs with white lettering that say "8-26" on them.
These are all reasons why the runway 26 scenario is almost inconceivable...but at this point, apparently true.
You mean like ASDE? No. Only the biggest high volume airports have that.
I have flown out of LEX many times and the departure area around 22-26 can be confusing. Generally the runway lights are on even if the runway in question (8-26) is Notam'ed closed. I wouldn't be surprised if crew rest becomes a factor here. The scheduled airlines have some funky loopholes regarding short nights. I'm a Part 135 guy (charter) so we'll see.
found it on yahoo images
"Unlike the military, they don't also teach thinking, nor do they focus on emergency procedures like the Military does."
On behalf of all the rest of the sadistic ba***** ground instructors, I thank you very much for that point.
Used to tell my navigation students that they would only be allowed to leave the tender care of our Training Department after we'd simulated their deaths enough times to convince them that they were neither infallible OR immortal.
They appear to be on eastern time.
You know what was a little odd, when I looked up this flight on Flight Aware this morning, the "track log" was "arrived" "14 days ago".
Phase III
In this phase, the construction of new pavement begins on the runway safety area, taxiway and emergency access roads at the end of Runway 4. Phase III also includes the relocation and installation of numerous navigational aids and runway approach lighting.Phase IV
Phase IV includes an asphalt overlay of the entire length of Runway 4-22 and Taxiway A. All pavement lighting will also be replaced.
One wonders whether this ongoing construction will be a contributing factor...
Civilian-trained "short hop" pilots care most about getting their flight hours high enough to be considered as a candidate for the majors. Pay is secondary. And civilian-trained pilots don't have many options to accumulate their hours, so why complain?
U.S. Military-trained pilots have been through the best flight training in the world. And while there might be some natural-born pilots in the regular world who would have/could have/should have trained and exceled at flying in the military, they are not commonly seen. We must know scores of commercial pilots who are former military; and I'd bet all of them would say the same thing.
I'm just repeating what I hear.
Thanks for the Google Earth picture. I like to use
www.airnav.com to get airport info to use with my scanner.
I'm convinced they are, personally, however military pilots are a small portion of those trying to get into the airlines as a commercial pilot. (dime a dozen) Also, military training and experience doesn't qualify as experience under FAA jurisdiction and they have to start from scratch after leaving the military.
I worked with a decade long P-3 pilot who retired from the military and his first commercial job was training pilots in Cessna 152's at a virtual minimum wage.
I had a look at the airport on Google Earth. The usable width of 26 is 75ft, but the concrete width is 150ft. In other words, the runway is 150ft wide, but is painted to be 75ft wide. Just a possible source of confusion.
What do you mean they have to start from scratch? We are talking about experience. Flying in the military in the 90s made the pilots all test pilots. Frankly, I never understood why these guys wanted to continue flying back then, but they did. Shi* was falling off of the jets and falling into the desert all the time. Yes, the military guys had to go sit for their certifications, but no one was sweating about it.
Military aircraft are not under the jurisdiction of the FAA and are considered irrelevance in civil aviation.
Thus, a pilot with impeccable service and experience needs to qualify for FAR certification.
Military pilots don't really start from scratch. When I got my ATP I walked in with my log book, took a test, flew a couple hours in a tiny little twin, flew my check ride and was done in two and a half days.
There's no Runway 826 - it's Runway 26 (3500 feet), which corresponds to the magnetic heading 260. Runway 22 (220 degrees magnetic) is the longer one they should have been on.
26 has no runway lights - 22 does. I don't know what may have happened with the flight crew, lining up with the long runway. Many GA pilots use a memory aid, both on approach and departure, where they set the heading for the runway in one of their navigational instruments (the HSI) to remind them where they should be headed.
Very, very sad.
Sorry, just realized that they meant 8/26. Runway 8 is the opposite side of 26, always off by 180 degrees.
Whether or not the farmer made a correct statement about the runway, I always find it incredible that someone on the ground can make a statement that the "pilot was disoriented." How the hell does HE know?
It's long been known that eyewitnesses are highly unreliable, and that the eyewitnesses at the same scene frequently contradict each other.
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