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Plane Crashes in Lexington
WTVQ 36 Lexington ^ | August 27, 2006 | Jon Sasser

Posted on 08/27/2006 4:38:10 AM PDT by BigBlueJon

Edited on 08/27/2006 5:02:21 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Possible plane crash in Lexington, KY. My brother works security for Lexington UK Hospital and was just called in. No news locally or on major news outlets yet. I didn't want to post anything for fear of being wrong, but he's still waiting for an official call while on stand-by.

Update from WTVQ 36 Lexington:

A plane has crashed near the Blue Grass Airport this morning. No word on details at this time. We are told it was a commercial aircraft. Versailles Road is blocked as emergency vehicles circle around the site. We have live coverage beginning at 7:20am. Stay with Action News 36 for more details.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: airplane; bluegrassairport; comair; crash; delta; dl5191; kentucky; lex; lexington; plane; planecrash; terribletragedy; wreck
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To: Sting 11
Local station is also reporting that the longer runway was recently re paved. In the process they extended the *other* end, and blocked off the taxiway going to the far end of the longer runway (22), converting the excess to pure "overrun"/buffer. Apparently partly to move the end of the runway away from the road. Understandable if more jets are flying from there than previously and/or the road now carries more traffic. That could contribute to confustion, instead of continuing straight at the end of 26, they now have to make a left turn to a different taxiway leading to the new departure end of 22).

FWIW, 26 the GA runway, is about 3-4 times as wide as 22. Not an excuse of course, but a bit of an explanation. Changes made within the last week or two.

Possibly the crew or the Captain had not flown from there since the changes. But that would seem to make it more likely that he'd taxi onto the now closed taxiway. However all it took was for him to turn a little too tight onto 26 instead of onto the other taxiway. Get confused, not notice you should have made one more turn, and think you are on the proper runway, and you and 48 other people are dead, and your first officer is clinging to life.

521 posted on 08/27/2006 11:39:20 AM PDT by El Gato
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To: EGPWS

"perhaps an abort was started and then realized that it was impossible to follow through"

That decision is almost always deadly!!!!


522 posted on 08/27/2006 11:40:59 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: dalereed
Do you know anything about that aircraft? Any RTO braking?
523 posted on 08/27/2006 11:43:02 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: jcs1744
You don't really do that unless you are assigned a different heading after takeoff. Large airports often have more than one runway on the same heading, so its futile exercise if you're trying to takeoff on 35R, your compass says 350, but you're cleared for takeoff on 35L.

I realize that, but this airport has two intersecting runways. The short one is half the length of the long one. It sounds like the tower should have warned the pilot he was on the wrong runway.

524 posted on 08/27/2006 11:43:12 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: COEXERJ145

Duuno why, but I didn't get the impression that freedumb2003 was complaining about the ad... ;>)


525 posted on 08/27/2006 11:43:41 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Sophomore dies in kiln explosion? Oh My God! I just talked to her last week...)
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To: Guenevere
So today's news is extra sad....the poor souls probably thought...'one more short leg of this trip, and I'm home'..

More likely, this was the first leg of their journey. Anyone returning somewhere from Lexington would most likely have left yesterday, if not Friday evening. If the flight had been from ATL, rather than to it, you'd probably be correct.

I'm planning on a two day layover at DFW next month, at the end of a trip to Orlando. At that point I will be on the last leg as I board the commuter aircraft (an ERJ-140), but then again that's the large "hub" for the commuter, not one of it's feeder airports.

526 posted on 08/27/2006 11:44:46 AM PDT by El Gato
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To: Ready4Freddy

Yeah, but it shouldn't pop up like that. Indicates a bug in the website code.


527 posted on 08/27/2006 11:46:01 AM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Free Republic is Currently Suffering a Pandemic of “Bush Derangement Syndrome.”)
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To: El Gato
FWIW, 26 the GA runway, is about 3-4 times as wide as 22.

Info in Post 14 says 8/26 is 75 feet wide; 4/22 at 150 feet in width.

528 posted on 08/27/2006 11:46:33 AM PDT by OBXWanderer
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To: tcrlaf
Isn't there ANYBODY in these news orgs that knows a damn thing about flying??

No, at least not before they have time to call in their "experts". Even then maybe not.

Journalists are generalists, they no nothing about anything in particular. Anytime you have knowledge of the background area of a story, you'll find all sorts of inaccuracies and down right errors.

529 posted on 08/27/2006 11:46:36 AM PDT by El Gato
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To: Pukin Dog

I believe it does.


530 posted on 08/27/2006 11:47:05 AM PDT by jcs1744
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To: Paleo Conservative
Confirmed to be N431CA.
531 posted on 08/27/2006 11:47:35 AM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Free Republic is Currently Suffering a Pandemic of “Bush Derangement Syndrome.”)
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To: BigBlueJon
...and there were two fatalities on the ground. Whoa... that's the first I'm seeing of fatalities on the ground.
532 posted on 08/27/2006 11:47:52 AM PDT by BagCamAddict
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To: El Gato
You're right....I wasn't thinking.

Commuter jets from Melbourne or Orlando are always the first leg of the trip...

..Atlanta returns...are coming home.

533 posted on 08/27/2006 11:48:46 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: USNBandit
... the engineers response was "Why would you ever want to get slow in a fighter?"

Truly priceless.

534 posted on 08/27/2006 11:49:17 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Paleo Conservative
Thanks.

The wrong runway? Good gravy.

535 posted on 08/27/2006 11:50:03 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Pukin Dog

Don't know anything about that particular aircraft but changing your mind after you've made a decision and started to abort and resuming takeoff especially on such a short runway the guy didn't have a chance if thats what happened.

The flight recorder will have the answers and the first officer, if he survives.


536 posted on 08/27/2006 11:51:31 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: BagCamAddict
...and there were two fatalities on the ground. Whoa... that's the first I'm seeing of fatalities on the ground.

That was from the China crash in 2004, which was the last CRJ crash before today.

537 posted on 08/27/2006 11:53:19 AM PDT by Sting 11
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To: jcs1744

I take that back, I just checked my friend's CRJ manual, and it does not have auto-brakes--thus no RTO auto-brake.


538 posted on 08/27/2006 11:54:33 AM PDT by jcs1744
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To: USNBandit
He's a doctor with a pilot's license.

Given the mortality rate among such types, that is an interesting comment. 8^)
539 posted on 08/27/2006 11:54:34 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: dalereed

IFR CheckList:

Check Compass against assigned runway heading!
This checks both the compass and teh selected runway!

Failur to do this check can lead to bad compass or incorrect runway.

BAD OPERATING PRACTICE. LAZY!


540 posted on 08/27/2006 11:55:52 AM PDT by BillM
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