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Katherine Harris says failure to elect Christians will `legislate sin'
KRT Wire ^ | 8/25/2006 | Jim Stratton

Posted on 08/25/2006 7:47:48 PM PDT by Alex Murphy

ORLANDO, Fla. _Rep. Katherine Harris said this week that God did not intend for the United States to be a "nation of secular laws" and that a failure to elect Christians to political office will allow lawmaking bodies to "legislate sin."

The remarks, published in the weekly journal of the Florida Baptist State Convention, unleashed a torrent of criticism from political and religious officials.

Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, D-Fla., said she was "disgusted" by the comments "and deeply disappointed in Rep. Harris personally."

Harris, Wasserman Schultz said, "clearly shows that she does not deserve to be a Representative . . ."

State Rep. Irv Slosberg, D-Boca Raton, demanded an apology, saying the statements were "outrageous, even by her standards.

"What is going through this woman's mind?" said Slosberg. "We do not live in a theocracy."

The criticism was not limited to Democrats.

Ruby Brooks, a veteran Tampa Bay Republican activist, said Harris' remarks "were offensive to me as a Christian and a Republican."

"To me, it's the height of hubris," said Brooks, a former Largo Republican Club president and former member of the Pinellas County Republican Executive Committee.

And Jillian Hasner, executive director of the Republican Jewish Coalition, said: "I don't think it's representative of the Republican Party at all. Our party is much bigger and better than Katherine Harris is trying to make it."

The fallout follows an interview published in the Florida Baptist Witness, the weekly journal of the Florida Baptist State Convention. Witness editors interviewed candidates for office asking them to describe their faith and positions on certain issues.

Harris said her religious beliefs "animate" everything she does, including her votes in Congress.

She then warned voters that if they do not send Christians to office, they risk creating a government that is doomed to fail.

"If you are not electing Christians, tried and true, under public scrutiny and pressure, if you're not electing Christians, then in essence you are going to legislate sin," she told interviewers, citing abortion and gay marriage as two examples of that sin.

"Whenever we legislate sin," she said, "and we say abortion is permissible and we say gay unions are permissible, then average citizens who are not Christians, because they don't know better, we are leading them astray and it's wrong . . ."

Harris also said the separation of church and state is a "lie we have been told" to keep religious people out of politics.

In reality, she said, "we have to have the faithful in government" because that is God's will. Separating religion and politics is "so wrong because God is the one who chooses our rulers," she said.

"And if we are the ones not actively involved in electing those godly men and women," then "we're going to have a nation of secular laws. That's not what our founding fathers intended and that's (sic) certainly isn't what God intended."

Harris campaign spokesman Jennifer Marks would not say what alternative to "a nation of secular laws" Harris would support. She would not answer questions about the Harris interview and, instead, released a two-sentence statement.

"Congresswoman Harris encourages Americans from all walks of life and faith to participate in our government," it stated. "She continues to be an unwavering advocate of religious rights and freedoms."

The notion that non-Christians "don't know better," or are less suited to govern disturbed Rabbi Rick Sherwin, president of the Greater Orlando Board of Rabbis.

"Anybody who claims to have a monopoly on God," he said, "doesn't understand the strength of America."

Sherwin and others also said Harris appeared to be voicing support for a religious state when she said God and the founding fathers did not intend the United States to be a "nation of secular laws."

The alternative, they said, would be a nation of religious laws.

"She's talking about a theocracy," said Sherwin. "And that's exactly opposite of what this country is based on." A clause in the First Amendment prohibits the establishment of a state religion.

Ahmed Bedier, the Central Florida Director of the Council on American Islamic Relations, said he was "appalled that a person who's been in politics this long would hold such extreme views."

Bedier said most Christians would find such comments "shameful."

Harris has always professed a deep Christian faith and long been popular with Christian conservative voters.

In the Senate primary race, she has heavily courted that voting bloc, counting on them to put her into the general election against Democratic Sen. Bill Nelson.

But publicly, she rarely expresses such a fervent evangelical perspective.

University of Virginia political analyst Larry Sabato said the comments will appeal to Christian fundamentalists who typically turn out for Republican primaries.

But he said the strong evangelical tone could alienate non-Christians and more moderate Republicans who had been thinking of supporting Harris.

"It's insane," he said. "But it's not out of character for Katherine Harris."

Harris, a Republican from Longboat Key, is running against Orlando attorney Will McBride, retired Adm. LeRoy Collins and developer Peter Monroe in the GOP Senate primary.

McBride and Collins also did interviews with Florida Baptist Witness. Both said faith is an important part of their lives, but Harris' responses most directly tie her role as a policy maker to her religious beliefs.

Ruby Brooks, the Tampa area GOP activist, said such religious "arrogance" only damages the party.

"This notion that you've been chosen or anointed, it's offensive," said Brooks. "We hurt our cause with that more than we help it."


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: debbie; godless; implodingcampaign; jimstratton; katherineharris; larrysabato; latestharrisgaffe; slosberg; theocracy; wassermanschultz; wingnut
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1 posted on 08/25/2006 7:47:50 PM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy

Another genius move.


2 posted on 08/25/2006 7:48:57 PM PDT by thoughtomator (There is no "Islamofascism" - there is only Islam)
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To: Alex Murphy

Was this an interpretation by others of what she said or was this a correct in context statement?


3 posted on 08/25/2006 7:49:49 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Alex Murphy
Kate, you're in big trouble. Your strategic and tactical planning, plainly suck and are blunderous. Take 2 Ludes and call me in the morning. Your candidacy is DOA. Bye.
4 posted on 08/25/2006 8:07:07 PM PDT by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage. Try it!)
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To: A CA Guy

"If you are not electing Christians, tried and true, under public scrutiny and pressure, if you're not electing Christians, then in essence you are going to legislate sin," she told interviewers, citing abortion and gay marriage as two examples of that sin.

Note the quotes above -- looks like the candidate did it again if the quotes are correct. This gets worse and worse with her campaign.


5 posted on 08/25/2006 8:08:00 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (God Bless America and the men and women who serve in our military!)
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To: thoughtomator

Is dunb Kathy the ONLY person that can run for the Senate in Florida?


6 posted on 08/25/2006 8:10:54 PM PDT by bybybill (`IF TH E RATS WIN, WE LOSE)
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To: PhiKapMom
People can make great arguments not to exclude people of faith from political leadership, but we are not a theocracy and if she suggested we should have a CHRISTIAN government, then she jumped the shark and any political future she hoped to have in any office is now null and void IMO.

I hope the context of her statement made some kind or rational sense in truth, because we live in a Democratically elected Republic, not a theocracy.
8 posted on 08/25/2006 8:13:05 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: PhiKapMom
This gets worse and worse with her campaign.

Maybe she is going for the sympathy vote now.
9 posted on 08/25/2006 8:13:33 PM PDT by rottndog (WOOF!!!)
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To: A CA Guy

I agree, because I'm Catholic and evangelicals do not like us. But Katherine Harris has been the best of an abysmal lot, and I'd simply call upon her to make a clarification.


10 posted on 08/25/2006 8:15:45 PM PDT by livius
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To: thoughtomator
The chief problem with her campaign is its failure to promise $1.26 / gallon unleaded to Florida motorists. /sarc
11 posted on 08/25/2006 8:16:17 PM PDT by jdm (I gotta give the Helen Thomas obsession a rest.)
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To: Alex Murphy
"If you are not electing Christians, tried and true, under public scrutiny and pressure, if you're not electing Christians, then in essence you are going to legislate sin," she told interviewers, citing abortion and gay marriage as two examples of that sin.

Kind of hard to argue against that. Too bad the moniker of "Straight Talk Express" is already taken.

12 posted on 08/25/2006 8:19:37 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: Alex Murphy
Fla. _Rep. Katherine Harris said this week that God did not intend for the United States to be a "nation of secular laws" and that a failure to elect Christians to political office will allow lawmaking bodies to "legislate sin."

And Jefferson's corpse spins anew.

13 posted on 08/25/2006 8:21:04 PM PDT by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: Alex Murphy
In reality, she said, "we have to have the faithful in government" because that is God's will. Separating religion and politics is "so wrong because God is the one who chooses our rulers," she said.

Politically stupid, theologically stupid.

She's now trying to kill her campaign all by herself.

14 posted on 08/25/2006 8:25:05 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: Alex Murphy
Having seen Debbie Wasserman Schultz on TV many times, I find her disgusting. It was interesting when she ducked the question on O'Reilly's show when he asked her why she supports strong anti-terror tactics for Israel and opposes them in the U.S.

By the way, Debbie Wasserman Schultz bears a strong resemblance to Ms. Harris horse on a bad day (for the horse).
15 posted on 08/25/2006 8:26:28 PM PDT by BW2221
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To: BW2221
By the way, Debbie Wasserman Schultz bears a strong resemblance to Ms. Harris horse on a bad day (for the horse).

Harris is beginning to resemble the south end of that horse when he's north bound with these ridiculous statements.

16 posted on 08/25/2006 8:30:13 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: Alex Murphy; Extremely Extreme Extremist
Republican voters in Minnesota and Virgina have "legislated sin" by electing pro-life, pro-gun, pro-family Reaganites like these guys:

Senator Norm Coleman (R-MN)
Jewish

Congressman Eric Cantor (R-MN)
Jewish

I gotta hand to Kathy, she's starting to make Alan Keyes comments about "selfish hedonists" look good in comparison.

17 posted on 08/25/2006 8:30:42 PM PDT by BillyBoy (ILLINOIS ELECTION "CHOICES:" Rod Bag-o-$hit or Judas Barf Too-Pinka)
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To: PhiKapMom

I used to really like this woman, but she has turned into someone not worthy to be elected nor appointed to any office whatsoever.


18 posted on 08/25/2006 8:30:47 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Alex Murphy

I was a Katherine supporter and fan, but after being disillusioned over Harris's staffing mess, I decided that since I didn't know her opponents so couldn't make an informed vote, I'd sit the primaries out. But this is over the top. I don't want Christian government. I'll vote in the early balloting tomorrow, for anyone running against Harris.


19 posted on 08/25/2006 8:38:46 PM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com)
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To: gcruse

I want Katherine to win but I don't expect her to after the campaign she's run.


20 posted on 08/25/2006 8:40:43 PM PDT by darkangel82 (Higher visibility leads to greater zottability.)
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