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Mammoths may roam again after 27,000 years
Times Online (U.K.) ^ | 08/15/2006 | Mark Henderson

Posted on 08/14/2006 9:17:59 PM PDT by peyton randolph

BODIES of extinct Ice Age mammals, such as woolly mammoths, that have been frozen in permafrost for thousands of years may contain viable sperm that could be used to bring them back from the dead, scientists said yesterday.

Research has indicated that mammalian sperm can survive being frozen for much longer than was previously thought, suggesting that it could potentially be recovered from species that have died out...

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Japan; Russia
KEYWORDS: breeding; cloning; frozen; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; humangenome; japan; jurassicpark; mammoth; mammoths; mammothtoldme; mouse; pleistocene; pleistocenepark; rewilding; rewildingamerica; russia; science; sperm
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

Should have known eBay would have it. They start selling real mammoths, I'll be concerned about shipping costs.


81 posted on 08/15/2006 6:42:42 AM PDT by peyton randolph (No man knows the day nor the hour of The Coming of The Great White Handkerchief.)
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To: muawiyah

Well, then "mouse sperm" afficionados will be grateful...whoever they might be.


82 posted on 08/15/2006 6:44:04 AM PDT by peyton randolph (No man knows the day nor the hour of The Coming of The Great White Handkerchief.)
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To: peyton randolph

It's clear we're going to need a bigger fence. And a stronger leash.

Yes, I'm going to be coming home from work and finding five-foot-long hairs on my bed, a puddle on the bedroom floor, and the mammoth looking worried and guilty. And the kids will say they don't know anything about it. "You were supposed to take him for a walk!" "Me! I was not! It was your turn! I took him for a walk yesterday!"


83 posted on 08/15/2006 6:44:13 AM PDT by Fairview
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To: Plutarch
when they were hunted to extinction

Source, please. Not that it couldn't happen. Turn them loose in someone's wheat field and it could happen again.

There are those who would like to return our entire ecosystem to 12,000 years ago, but don't expect that will do much for our standard of living.

Don't forget to return the saber-toothed cats to the L.A. Area, either, while y'all are at it.

You might want to catch up on the developments in pre-clovis archaeology, too. Seems humans were here a lot longer than 12,000 years.

84 posted on 08/15/2006 6:44:25 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

"some nitwit will want to turn loose a herd of them "
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I'd keep them penned. Going to be a market for steaks, tusks, and fur coats.


85 posted on 08/15/2006 6:45:50 AM PDT by peyton randolph (No man knows the day nor the hour of The Coming of The Great White Handkerchief.)
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To: peyton randolph
I don't know if it is a urban legend or not, but I heard that back in the 70's a diner could buy a mammoth steak at a cafe in Alaska.
86 posted on 08/15/2006 6:46:38 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Fairview
If mammoths pull that type of misbehavior, it is time to bring in Cesar Millan as the Mammoth Whisperer.
87 posted on 08/15/2006 6:54:19 AM PDT by peyton randolph (No man knows the day nor the hour of The Coming of The Great White Handkerchief.)
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To: peyton randolph

Just fom knowing what it takes to corrall the lowly bison, (multiples of what it takes for cattle), that should prove interesting...


88 posted on 08/15/2006 6:56:32 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

"fom"=from

sheesh.


89 posted on 08/15/2006 6:57:11 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Calpernia; Vaquero

I did not say they do. If we follow the logic (or illogic rather) of Vaquero, then the only explanation for this is that snakes MUST live in cold climates because this feature CAN ONLY occur in order to help conserve heat.


90 posted on 08/15/2006 10:00:30 AM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: Vaquero
First of all, the name was invented by a renowned literary professor of both Oxford and Cambridge. And I don't need to waste time explaining any more on the subject to someone who is incapable of making a logical argument and must rely on insults to make up for his inability.

"How wonderful for you that you can survive and thrive while ignoring all the facts."

How wonderful you blather on without a point at all. The only FACTS here are that you have claimed to divine that the exclusive and only possible purpose for mammoths having small ears is to conserve heat AND that you are a sore LOSER. You have neither put forward nor demonstrated any other facts than these.

There is no reason why small ears could not just as easily be an adaptively-produced survival mechanism to help escape hearing the kind of tripe you produce.
91 posted on 08/15/2006 10:01:24 AM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: unlearner

your response is simply diabolically insipid.


92 posted on 08/15/2006 10:05:26 AM PDT by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: unlearner

Try some science next time. It behooves you to try it on a scientific argument, not some doublespeak drivel about ears on snakes.

Now you are saying snakes and mammals are the same.

Please...go to church, pray all you want....I think its wonderful... but keep it out of science. It has no place there.


93 posted on 08/15/2006 10:08:33 AM PDT by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: imahawk
I always wanted a side of ribs like in the start of the flintstones.

The ribs that tip the car over at the drive-in come during the closing credits, not in the opening.

94 posted on 08/15/2006 10:19:12 AM PDT by MozarkDawg
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To: Vaquero

I did not say snakes and mammals are the same. (And only your camp thinks they share common ancestry.)

The article you attacked has explanatory power for a long list of things. You put forward an example which you claim has one and only one possible explanation. Then you have the audacity to say anyone who disagrees is unscientific. No known science functions this way.

One can argue that small ears COULD be an adaptive feature to help protect against cold. I did not say that is bad logic, or that it cannot be the case. The problem is that it is only ONE POSSIBLE explanation, and you put it forward as a death blow to the arguments made by the article.


95 posted on 08/15/2006 10:22:18 AM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: Clock King
Yeah, but do you have this guy's skull structure for chewing on mammoth meat?

The humans who hunted mammoths in North America were anatomically modern. Archaic sapients like Neanderthals et al, and even older forms like Homo erectus, probably never made it over here.

96 posted on 08/15/2006 10:29:42 AM PDT by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: unlearner

creationism/ID are not science in any way shape or form.

Being raised RC, I am require to believe that God set forth the universe and the planet into being and he also set the human race on its path, I am required to believe he created the human soul. I am not required however to go against scientific treatises into the how and the whys of the mysteries of the universe. the lord does work in mysterious ways and I see no conflict with a 15 billion year old universe, a 5 billion year old planet, a 4 billion year old history of life nor a couple of millon year existance of man, who evolved from ape like ancestors.

I could go against the scientific treatise of Evolution, but I dont...because it makes all the sense in the world to myself and to all responisible scientists to take it as fact, which it is.


97 posted on 08/15/2006 10:36:21 AM PDT by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: unlearner
Snakes don't have large ears.

Um, snakes don't have ANY ears.

Like other reptiles they have no external ear at all. Like most other reptiles the quadrate bone is located just under the skin and channels sound to the cochlea. (IOW they hear in part with their jaw.)

It's a good idea if you don't ridicule others in the thread if you're gonna be making a significant gaffe yourself.

98 posted on 08/15/2006 10:36:42 AM PDT by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: unlearner

Oh, agreed with the illogic. I was just being a nitpicky herp :P


99 posted on 08/15/2006 10:42:49 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: peyton randolph

If the mammoth sperms are viable, why wouldn't mammoth eggs be viable?


100 posted on 08/15/2006 10:50:36 AM PDT by raygun (Whenever I see U.N. blue helmets I feel like laughing and puking at the same time.)
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