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They will never rest until ALL children are medicated into compliance. There was no such thing as ADHD 20 years ago and we all grew up just fine.
1 posted on 08/04/2006 12:18:14 PM PDT by Teflonic
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Yep. When my kids showed signs of ADHD it only took a few spankings to get their attention.

Seemed to have cleared the problem up without any medication too.


2 posted on 08/04/2006 12:20:38 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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D*** those parents for making decisions about their children's welfare instead of just drugging them.


3 posted on 08/04/2006 12:20:43 PM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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There was no such thing as ADHD 20 years ago and we all grew up just fine.

But there was such a thing called "disciplining your children". Not so today...

4 posted on 08/04/2006 12:20:45 PM PDT by frogjerk (LIBERALISM: The perpetual insulting of common sense.)
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Is this satire?


5 posted on 08/04/2006 12:20:46 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Pray for peace, prepare for war.)
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My brother trained as a pediatrician. He is one of the most laid-back, easygoing people on the planet. Say the word "ritalin" and his head will spin around three times and explode. He's irate about the over-medication of perfectly healthy kids.


6 posted on 08/04/2006 12:21:42 PM PDT by nina0113
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Maybe if classes weren't so boring, kids wouldn't be so skirmy.


7 posted on 08/04/2006 12:24:14 PM PDT by My2Cents (A pirate's life for me.)
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Childhood is so much easier to say than - attention deficit/hyperactivity disorder


8 posted on 08/04/2006 12:25:00 PM PDT by SF Republican
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The pharmaceutical companies are rightfully upset. After all, there may actually be an American child out there somewhere who isn't using their products daily.

And they've got a big pension plan to fund.

11 posted on 08/04/2006 12:27:06 PM PDT by JennysCool (Roll out the Canarble Wagon!)
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From their numbers - 1 in four kids are mentally ill and need treatment. 1 in 3 boys. Mental Illness. But the DSM says males who desire reproductive acts with other males are completely normal. Idiots.


12 posted on 08/04/2006 12:28:30 PM PDT by epluribus_2
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We all should...uh...uh...

Now, what were we talking about? Oh yea...the war in Israel..


14 posted on 08/04/2006 12:30:13 PM PDT by Van Jenerette (Your Republic...if you can keep it!)
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The Dummying Down of America at Work


15 posted on 08/04/2006 12:31:03 PM PDT by Woodstock (: >)
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I would have said something equally stupid 5 years ago. I would rather my child not be on concerta, but it helps her considerably. It's much better than watching her fail school regardless of how much help she received. Does it make her normal? No not at all, but like I said it helps concederably.


16 posted on 08/04/2006 12:31:12 PM PDT by zek157
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We have so far refused to medicate our son. Now the regular public school he attended didn't come right out and say we ought to do it, although one lady at a summer school did, but they pressured us every single day hoping we would break. That was three years ago and we got out of the public schools. We thought we would have to go back this year, but we are looking into alternatives. It's hard being a parent out there--especially a conservative parent with not a lot of resources.

Here's article some of you may be interested in if you hadn't already seen it:

How the Schools Shortchange Boys - In the newly feminized classroom, boys tune out

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1677208/posts


19 posted on 08/04/2006 12:33:40 PM PDT by beaversmom
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I'd say over half the children with ADHD, do not have ADHD.


21 posted on 08/04/2006 12:35:49 PM PDT by PattonFan (Not me, I don't believe in paying for the same real estate twice." George C. Scott , "Patton")
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"They will never rest until ALL children are medicated into compliance. There was no such thing as ADHD 20 years ago and we all grew up just fine."

The researchers have no clue. They should try a couple of things.

1. Take all of the art down in the classrooms. Just put it up for parent/teacher conference. Getting rid of this one distraction alone will cure 90% of ADD kids.

2. Television. 500 channels and nothing on. Once my niece stopped channel surfing and went to one or two channels she liked her distractions went away.

3. Stop the ADD medication. My kid takes it because he is too distracted in school. He didn't take it this summer for camp and he was fine.

It is about focus and until schools understand that it is tough for a kid to focus on schoolwork while 100 other things are going on around him, this problem won't go away.



24 posted on 08/04/2006 12:41:33 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Democrats - The reason we need term limits)
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The person with ADHD may not be suitable for working in a white collar factory but their ability to jump from task-to-task is a real plus when trying to get a small business off the ground.


25 posted on 08/04/2006 12:43:03 PM PDT by fso301
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I'm not sure there was "no such thing" as ADHD 20 years ago. It just didn't matter as much. There were ample good jobs in manufacturing and agriculture and other manual trades which required only a marginal high school education, or even less. Kids (especially boys, who are the bulk of diagnosed ADHD cases) who couldn't concentrate on "book learning" simply stopped pursuing it by their late teens, and went into a steady job which neatly dovetailed with the classic ADHD ability to hyperfocus on repetitive physical tasks. But the world has gotten a lot more sophisticated, and unless we want to give up computers, the Internet, high tech medicine, etc., we need a much larger percentage of the population to achieve substantial levels of academic learning.

However, the assertion that something on the order of 20% of US children need to be on medication for ADHD is ludicrous. If there are really that many children who have the symptoms of ADHD, then the schools need to change their programs to better suit ADHD kids (this would tend to mean a return to "rote memorization" and "drills" and similar politically incorrect educational methods, which seemed to work fine for non-ADHD kids too, back in the "good old days").


27 posted on 08/04/2006 12:44:25 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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Well, since ADHD does not exist and was invented from whole cloth entirely to enrich the therapist class, who cares?


29 posted on 08/04/2006 12:52:35 PM PDT by pabianice
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Washington University Researchers find almost half of kids have ADHD. Parents to be arrested for neglect.

If your child comes to the attention of the authorities as one who might have ADHD and you decline to treat him, you could find the child being treated by the authorities, or that you would face a charge of child abuse.

Yet another reason to take your children out of government schools.

30 posted on 08/04/2006 12:59:23 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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There are some kids that have legitimate mental problems. OTOH, most of these problems are the result of a convergence of Dr. Spock, lawsuits over discipline and removal of problem students from a classroom, feminization of the classroom, and the elimination of goals from education.

As a result, boys, who are by nature more difficult to control, become impossible to control in a classroom setting. They KNOW the teacher can't touch them, even to pull them off another student. So, they become uncontrollable. They're designated with a learning disability and drugged to near unconsciousness. When dealing with boys, once the options of touching them or making them do pushups and situps is removed, you will not control them without drugging them. This is aggravated by the fact that boys are playing against a stacked deck, and they know it. If the boy is successful, it's considered proof that the test is biased, and it is normed (the girls test is made easier until the results are equal). When the girls achieve equal results with the new "normed" tests, it's proof of "girls can do anything boys can do.

As far as having learning problems, BS. These kids can memorize dozens of football plays and execute them. They can do it in the middle of the third quarter after taking thirty hits, and playing offense, defense and special teams. They can memorize thirty dungeon levels in Quake or Doom type games. Although the Pokemon fad is over, did you ever check the complexity of those games? Boys mastered them, though, with no classes and nobody trying to force them into it.

31 posted on 08/04/2006 1:01:01 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (The most important thing is sincerity. Once you can fake that, everything else is easy.)
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