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'Psalm in a bog' Linked To Israel's Current War - Scripture find in Ireland
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | By Joe Kovacs

Posted on 07/29/2006 7:36:51 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2

'Psalm in a bog' linked to Israel's current war

By Joe Kovacs © 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

The "miraculous" find of ancient psalms in an Irish bog has some wondering if there's any special modern relevance, since the discovery dealt with the enemies of Israel attempting to destroy the nation.

A construction worker in Ireland came across the ancient 20-page book dated to the years 800-1000 A.D. while driving his backhoe's shovel into the mud last week. Experts say it's impossible to say how the manuscript ended up there, but speculate it may have been lost in transit or dumped after a raid some 1,000 to 1,200 years ago.

The National Museum of Ireland issued a statement saying, "In discovery terms, this Irish equivalent to the Dead Sea Scrolls is being hailed by the museum's experts as the greatest find ever from a European bog."

"It is not so much the fragments themselves, but what they represent, that is of such staggering importance," said the museum's director, Pat Wallace. "In my wildest hopes, I could only have dreamed of a discovery as fragile and rare as this. It testifies to the incredible richness of the Early Christian civilization of this island and to the greatness of ancient Ireland."

Wallace called it a "miracle find," telling the Associated Press, "it's unlikely that something this fragile could survive buried in a bog at all, and then for it to be unearthed and spotted before it was destroyed is incalculably more amazing."

But it's the fact the book was discovered opened to Psalm 83 that is attracting attention across the globe.

The ancient psalm deals with a plea to God not to let the enemies of Israel eradicate God's chosen nation.

Keep not thou silence, O God: hold not thy peace, and be not still, O God. For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head. They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones. They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance. (Psalm 83:1-4)

It then lists a number of Israel's ancient enemies bent on its destruction.

Stan Goodenough, a South African journalist living in Israel for the past 12 years calls the timing of the discovery "incredible."

For right now Israel's enemies are again united in their desire to "cut Israel off from being a nation, that the name of Israel may be remembered no more." They purpose to take for themselves the "pastures of God for a possession." And that they are in league – or in a confederacy – is clear.

From Gaza, supported by most of the Arab states, the violence is being directed by the Palestinian Arab terrorist groups: the PLO, Hamas, the Palestine Islamic Jihad, the Popular Front For the Liberation of Palestine and the popular resistance Committees.

In the north, the Lebanese group [Hezbollah], supplied and enabled by Syria and the non-Arab but also Islamic Iran, is raining rockets down on Israel.

This, given the current situation, makes Psalm 83 a fascinating and fitting read, the ancient find nothing short of a phenomenon.

Goodenough points out the Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered in 1947, just as the modern state of Israel was being formed.

The bog find was heralded by the museum on Tuesday, one day after a call for global prayer on behalf of Israel. Psalm 83 was one of three psalms recited at locations worldwide Tuesday at the request of the governing council of Israel's Chief Rabbinate.

In his book, "Israel in Crisis," author David Dolan dedicates an entire chapter to Psalm 83.

"I detail who the protagonists are in the psalm, and then go on to talk about when it might be fulfilled," he told WND.

The website A Christian Witness previously put Psalm 83 into a musical Flash presentation, demonstrating how timely the ancient song is with news images documenting the current threat facing Israel, linking the ancient peoples mentioned in the psalm to modern political states.

Messageboards are filled with comments of news watchers who feel there's a timely significance to the discovery, while others think it's mere coincidence.

"This is the eeriest discovery I've ever heard of, especially given current events. It actually sends chills up my spine."

"I have read Psalms many times, and never has it just about screamed its relevance to the Middle East. God is really speaking to us through His Word right nowif we'll listen."

"I think this is one of the best news stories that I have read in quite some time. Those who seek Him, find Him. To those of us who believe, this is very uplifting!"

"For this to have been an act of God, God would have to have been all-knowing, foreseen this very conflict roughly 1,000 years before it occurred, foreseen the bog market, foreseen the use of power tools, foreseen the individual working the equipment and ensured this particular one was working that part of that bog that day, have created the book of its various parts (leather, the paper within) in the first place, have placed it in that place for 1,000 years of earthquakes and various other acts of God, foreseen the person who purchased the land would happen to be of the save artifacts mindset (not common among money-hungry landowners) and foreseen the need to it open to that page on that day. I don't know, seems all haphazard to me."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bog; bookofpsalms; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; ireland; israel; psalm83; psalm84; psalter; timelyfind
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1 posted on 07/29/2006 7:36:52 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
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To: Iam1ru1-2

I'm convinced that this find is a sign. At first hearing this story, Mr. JustaDumbBlonde and I just looked at each other with our jaws dropped. It has to be a sign.


2 posted on 07/29/2006 7:40:58 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (The Democrat party is a bomb-throwing, political terrorist organization)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

for God nothing is impossible.. he is the master of time... and he created us. It's like writing a piece of software.. our DNA is the source code.


3 posted on 07/29/2006 7:41:57 PM PDT by Cinnamon
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To: All
A great little presentation with music and visuals on Psalm 83 can be viewed at: CLICK HERE
4 posted on 07/29/2006 7:47:55 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
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To: Iam1ru1-2; JustaDumbBlonde; Cinnamon
Not quite. According to the Irish Museum

The Psalm the book was open to was Psalm 83 in the Vulgate version. Howver, that Psalm in the King James version is Psalm 84. Psalm 83 in the KJV, on the Destruction of Israel was Psalm 82, in the Vulgate.

5 posted on 07/29/2006 7:48:42 PM PDT by Celtjew Libertarian
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To: Iam1ru1-2
The "miraculous" find of ancient psalms in an Irish bog has some wondering if there's any special modern relevance...

Doubt it. Old things are found all the time.

What do you think archaeologists do for a living?

6 posted on 07/29/2006 7:49:47 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: All
Try this link: LINK
7 posted on 07/29/2006 7:50:20 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
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To: Iam1ru1-2
since the discovery dealt with the enemies of Israel attempting to destroy the nation

Wow, the OT writing was opened to A PAGE that dealt with Israel being at war??? While modern day Israel is at war, none the less?? What are the odds of that? /sarc

8 posted on 07/29/2006 7:51:12 PM PDT by kerryusama04 (Isa 8:20)
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To: Coyoteman

Why don't you try reading the entire article before making a complete blithering idiot of yourself!!


9 posted on 07/29/2006 7:51:52 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
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To: Iam1ru1-2
Why don't you try reading the entire article before making a complete blithering idiot of yourself!!

Did.

I'm an archaeologist, so I don't go off on flights of fancy like the author of the article.

Gotta stick to facts and all that stuff, you know.

10 posted on 07/29/2006 7:54:16 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: Celtjew Libertarian
The Psalm the book was open to was Psalm 83 in the Vulgate version. Howver, that Psalm in the King James version is Psalm 84. Psalm 83 in the KJV, on the Destruction of Israel was Psalm 82, in the Vulgate.

Ahh. I appreciate your injection of factuality into the airy fairy weirdness of apocalyptic speculation! Thanks! (PS -- are you any relation to Leopold Bloom?)

11 posted on 07/29/2006 7:54:18 PM PDT by TomSmedley (Calvinist, optimist, home schooling dad, exuberant husband, technical writer)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Wow! Wow! Wow!!!!


12 posted on 07/29/2006 7:56:01 PM PDT by Hound of the Baskervilles ("Well, Watson, we seem to have fallen upon evil days.")
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To: Iam1ru1-2
They seem to have decided it was actually a different psalm visible. See this link from the Israel National News for more information.
13 posted on 07/29/2006 7:56:20 PM PDT by Amelia (If we hire them, they will come...)
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To: kerryusama04
"Wow, the OT writing was opened to A PAGE that dealt with Israel being at war??? While modern day Israel is at war, none the less?? What are the odds of that? /sarc"

Better than consulting mediums and spirits of the dead. Isa 8:19

14 posted on 07/29/2006 7:57:21 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
I'm convinced that this find is a sign.

And if this isn't a sign, you might want to change your screen name. Either way I'd change it anyway.

15 posted on 07/29/2006 8:00:33 PM PDT by ReformedBeckite
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Great post, Wow!


16 posted on 07/29/2006 8:01:03 PM PDT by FreeRep
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To: Coyoteman

Well, the person who found this ancient writing wasn't on an archaeological dig when he found it:

A construction worker in Ireland came across the ancient 20-page book dated to the years 800-1000 A.D. while driving his backhoe's shovel into the mud last week.

Does this sound like an archaeologist on a relic finding dig? You may have read it, but nothing seems to have been absorbed. It's one thing to eat something, it's another thing to absorb it.


17 posted on 07/29/2006 8:01:27 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
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To: TomSmedley
(PS -- are you any relation to Leopold Bloom?)

Nope. A may be distantly related to Moses Ri-tooral-i-ay, if that's based on a real incident or person.

I'm Celtic by folkloric and musical inclination, as well as by marriage.

18 posted on 07/29/2006 8:01:37 PM PDT by Celtjew Libertarian
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To: Celtjew Libertarian; TomSmedley

"A may" = "I may"


19 posted on 07/29/2006 8:02:33 PM PDT by Celtjew Libertarian
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To: Celtjew Libertarian

Talk about the perfect thread for you...


20 posted on 07/29/2006 8:02:45 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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