1 posted on
07/29/2006 7:36:52 PM PDT by
Iam1ru1-2
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To: Iam1ru1-2
I'm convinced that this find is a sign. At first hearing this story, Mr. JustaDumbBlonde and I just looked at each other with our jaws dropped. It has to be a sign.
2 posted on
07/29/2006 7:40:58 PM PDT by
JustaDumbBlonde
(The Democrat party is a bomb-throwing, political terrorist organization)
To: Iam1ru1-2
for God nothing is impossible.. he is the master of time... and he created us. It's like writing a piece of software.. our DNA is the source code.
3 posted on
07/29/2006 7:41:57 PM PDT by
Cinnamon
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A great little presentation with music and visuals on Psalm 83 can be viewed at:
CLICK HERE
4 posted on
07/29/2006 7:47:55 PM PDT by
Iam1ru1-2
To: Iam1ru1-2; JustaDumbBlonde; Cinnamon
Not quite. According to the
Irish Museum The Psalm the book was open to was Psalm 83 in the Vulgate version. Howver, that Psalm in the King James version is Psalm 84. Psalm 83 in the KJV, on the Destruction of Israel was Psalm 82, in the Vulgate.
To: Iam1ru1-2
The "miraculous" find of ancient psalms in an Irish bog has some wondering if there's any special modern relevance... Doubt it. Old things are found all the time.
What do you think archaeologists do for a living?
6 posted on
07/29/2006 7:49:47 PM PDT by
Coyoteman
(I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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7 posted on
07/29/2006 7:50:20 PM PDT by
Iam1ru1-2
To: Iam1ru1-2
since the discovery dealt with the enemies of Israel attempting to destroy the nation Wow, the OT writing was opened to A PAGE that dealt with Israel being at war??? While modern day Israel is at war, none the less?? What are the odds of that? /sarc
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13 posted on
07/29/2006 7:56:20 PM PDT by
Amelia
(If we hire them, they will come...)
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16 posted on
07/29/2006 8:01:03 PM PDT by
FreeRep
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24 posted on
07/29/2006 8:06:29 PM PDT by
blam
To: Iam1ru1-2
If you want to talk about faith.
How about those who believe this is all an accident of entropy? Stupreme faith in absurdity? Or just once again the nature of the way we were created with FREE WILL to choose, even wrongly.
What is the value of the gift from a slave, compared to a gift given freely by the FREE?
islime IS SLAVERY! Free the slaves! They have no free will! They cannot give freely to GOD!
27 posted on
07/29/2006 8:11:54 PM PDT by
rawcatslyentist
(I'd rather be carrying a shotgun with Dick, than riding shotgun with a Kennedyl! *-0(:~{>)
To: Iam1ru1-2
the discovery dealt with the enemies of Israel attempting to destroy the nation.Which would be business as usual at any point since this thing was written.
32 posted on
07/29/2006 8:15:31 PM PDT by
Darkwolf377
(Former Catholic, current atheist pro-lifer)
To: Iam1ru1-2; All
Rabbi Johanan ben Zakkai said, "If you are planting a tree and someone yells, 'The Messiah has come!' first finish planting the tree. Then go see if it's the Messiah."
If you -- and, possibly, the Messiah -- will excuse me, I have a lot of "trees" to plant.
To: Iam1ru1-2
The strangest thing aboutthe new psalm was the last line of it which roughly trandlates into "Bush's fault".
40 posted on
07/29/2006 8:29:37 PM PDT by
Seruzawa
(If you agree with the French raise your hand - If you are French raise both hands.)
To: Iam1ru1-2
44 posted on
07/29/2006 8:35:36 PM PDT by
Coyoteman
(I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
To: Iam1ru1-2
"For this to have been an act of God, God would have to have been all-knowing, foreseen this very conflict roughly 1,000 years before it occurred, foreseen the bog market, foreseen the use of power tools, foreseen the individual working the equipment and ensured this particular one was working that part of that bog that day, have created the book of its various parts (leather, the paper within) in the first place, have placed it in that place for 1,000 years of earthquakes and various other acts of God, foreseen the person who purchased the land would happen to be of the save artifacts mindset (not common among money-hungry landowners) and foreseen the need to it open to that page on that day. I don't know, seems all haphazard to me."
The author suggests that these random events were unable to reach this moment, via the chaos of history, at exactly the right time.
I disagree.
Chaos is not random, but is an occult, "hidden," or implicate order within nature.
Deism is the belief that the Creator put the universe into motion, but rather than remaining separate from it, actually became it, remaining hidden in the background and operating as natural law.
This law, it was believed, could be discerned by the minds of people who cared to look for it.
Many of the founders of the United States were deists, including Benjamin Franklin and George Washington.
Or the discovery of the universal rhythms that permeate chaos, may simply be the fingerprints of God.
But, either way, this small series of seemingly random events is small potatoes in the beautiful dance of math that underlies all nature.
Regards,
To: Iam1ru1-2
Finding an old book in a bog is not a sign. If the text found something along the lines of "This book will be found with the nation of Israel at war..." yadda, yadda, yadda, then maybe. But this isn't a very convincing case at all.
To: Iam1ru1-2
To: Iam1ru1-2
This also gives the lie to the opinion that scripture wasn't available to people before the printing press with moveable type came along. Throughout every century in virtually every European and free Mediterranean nation scriptures, such as the book of Psalms, or a Gospel, were easily available to everybody at a reasonable price.
They were copied by believers and made available as a Christian witness and evangelizing tool. Christians apart from the Catholic Church (which did indeed keep the Bible from its people) thrived from Bulgaria to Scotland, from the first century until the thirteenth.
74 posted on
07/30/2006 5:54:10 AM PDT by
RoadTest
(Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just, and this be our motto: in God is our trust.)
To: Iam1ru1-2; Happygal; Colosis; Black Line; Cucullain; SomeguyfromIreland; Youngblood; Fergal; ...
I know I pinged my Irish list to this on anthor thread - but this article has an interesting perspective to the Psalm.
83 posted on
07/31/2006 11:41:49 AM PDT by
Irish_Thatcherite
(A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!|The IRA are actually terrorists, any questions?)
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