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Knocking the French: Why?
NavySEALs.com ^ | July 30, 2006 | W. Thomas Smith Jr.

Posted on 07/29/2006 5:20:07 PM PDT by SuzyQ2

But we Americans seem to have short memories.

What else could explain the fact that we, generally speaking, so-often lambaste the French, calling them “cowards” for not allying themselves fully with us in every instance? We constantly throw in their faces the fact that we came to their rescue in World Wars I and II. And we’ve all heard the jokes: “Surplus French military rifles for sale. Never fired. Dropped once.”

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To: SuzyQ2

Why knock the French? hmm...maybe because they dropped out of NATO during the cold war then came back when it was over and safe to go "back in the water", not letting us fly over their territory to bomb Libya (so sorry about your embassy being bombed Pierre but the boys were tired from that L O N G flight), screwing us at the last minute by now backing us in Iraq and my personal "favorite", making a cop killer an honorary citizen of Paris and naming a street after him!! (Mumia Abu Jamal).
Just a few reason to knock the frogs!!


81 posted on 07/29/2006 7:05:10 PM PDT by PhillyRepublican
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia

All the brave French were killed off in WW1. Only the cowards were left to breed.


82 posted on 07/29/2006 7:14:52 PM PDT by hiho hiho
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To: SuzyQ2

The French Betrayal of America
by Kenneth R. Timmerman

http://www.nrbookservice.com/products/BookPage.asp?prod_cd=c6481

Last year Americans watched with revulsion as French President Jacques Chirac sought to rally an international coalition to oppose the U.S.-led war in Iraq. At the same time, a French public opinion poll showed that fully one quarter of the French population actually supported Saddam Hussein at the start of Operation Iraqi Freedom. Since then, new stories have emerged almost daily of how the government of French President Chirac has sought to undermine the U.S. war on terror -- publicly sniping at America and inciting other countries to do the same.

Now, in The French Betrayal of America, bestselling author Kenneth R. Timmerman reveals why Americans can no longer trust the French -- especially when our national security is at stake. He also raises some very serious questions: Should the United States depend on France for its defense in the event of a nuclear strike from a rogue nation? Should we continue to share our nuclear weapons secrets with a country that has increasingly declared itself to be America's enemy? As an investigative journalist who lived and worked in France for eighteen years, Timmerman got to know virtually every French arms merchant who was selling weapons to Saddam Hussein. He also interviewed participants in several top-secret nuclear exchanges between the U.S. and France, and had exclusive access to Iraqi documents now in the possession of the UN. Among his disturbing discoveries -- many revealed here for the first time:

How Chirac lied to Bush and to the public about the war in Iraq

Incredible new evidence of France's duplicity during the war -- including how they stood to gain $100 billion from secret oil contracts they had concluded with Saddam Hussein

Irrefutable evidence that French defense companies were key partners in helping Saddam Hussein perfect the long-range missiles that killed U.S. soldiers in Saudi Arabia in 1991 and rained terror onto Israel

The top-secret missile defense cooperation between the United States and France that has taken off at precisely the same time the Chirac government has been undermining the U.S. on Iraq

Documented in detail: the "paper trail" of recent French assistance to Saddam's clandestine nuclear weapons program

How, despite France's nuclear assistance to our enemies, U.S. and French nuclear weapons designers continue to exchange secrets about maintaining our respective nuclear arsenals!

Exposed as a fraud: the French claim that they were "shocked to learn" that the Bush administration was preparing for war in early January 2003

How French influence and oil interests were behind Saddam's genocidal campaign against the Marsh Arabs in southern Iraq

Revealed for the first time: how arms dealers made cash payments in Switzerland to French politicians on behalf of Saddam Hussein, in exchange for their support

How France's top counter­terrorism judge was ordered to stop cooperating with the United States in the prosecution of Zacarias Moussaoui, the alleged 20th hijacker -- despite mounds of documents that would have helped the United States to convict Moussaoui of conspiracy to commit mass murder

Revealed: how President Chirac personally told President Bush well ahead of time that France would be at America's side
How French news coverage of the Iraq war was not merely one-sided, but viciously inaccurate and openly anti-American

The prominent French defense company that shipped U.S.-designed laser designator pods to Iraq in the 1980s, compromising the most high-tech weapons in the U.S. arsenal

The dirty-tricks campaign against Timmerman himself that included wire taps, accusations of espionage, and even death threats conveyed by French counter-espionage officers

Revealed for the first time: the surprising extent of French strategic and intelligence cooperation with the United States at the peak of the Cold War

Inside the French corruption scandals: How Chirac cut an immunity deal with the head of the French Supreme Court, former Socialist foreign minister Roland Dumas

Should nuclear cooperation agreements still in force with the French today should be canceled in light of France's behavior?


83 posted on 07/29/2006 7:16:24 PM PDT by Valin (http://www.irey.com/)
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To: Boss_Jim_Gettys

Dumb article -- the reason the French helped us during our revolution is because it hurt the British, full stop.

Yes, were it not for the French navy, Washington (who was a terrific general, by the way) could not have taken Cornwallis at Yorktown. And yes, we got serious aid from the French. But their motivations were there own and it was all about sticking it to King George.


84 posted on 07/29/2006 7:29:18 PM PDT by Norman Rogers
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To: SuzyQ2
"Knocking the French: Why?"

Because we can.

Apologies to my French friends who knock the French as well.

85 posted on 07/29/2006 7:29:36 PM PDT by Earthdweller
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To: thomaswest
Actually, the USA would not exist today if France hadn't helped us in the Revolutionary War.

Well, maybe.

The French only decided to aid the Americans after we had defeated one British army at Saratoga. The British lost at Kings Mountain (without our needing the French). Then they were driven out of the Carolinas after their defeat at Cow Pens (without our needing French help). The French did help us at the end when Cornwallis was trapped at York Town.
86 posted on 07/29/2006 7:32:49 PM PDT by Hiddigeigei (One doesn't have to regret the Enlightenment to be a conservative!)
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To: hodaka

I have old French blood too. Nice to hear someone with whom I can finally tell my horrible ancestral sin. My ancestor who fought in the Revolutionary War (a high level Hessian who fought for Britain, was hated by the Germans because of that, and became a government official in the U.S.) married some French lady. And I and all my siblings have the same middle name. deKrafft. From, Baron Von Krafft and ____ De la Mitre. :( But after those 200 years, I'm more or less pure Southern :)


87 posted on 07/29/2006 7:33:19 PM PDT by onja ("The government of England is a limited mockery.") (France is a complete mockery.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

You forgot my favorite:

"God made man a little lower than the angels, and he's been getting a little lower ever since. Right now to accurately place him I'd put him somewhere between the angels and the French" Mark Twain


88 posted on 07/29/2006 7:36:37 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (If you read only one book this year, read "Stolen Valor".)
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To: SuzyQ2

The author speaks of activities 229 years ago. For most all of us, our parents birthed us about 20 years before us, their parents birthed them about 20 years prior and so on, back and back and back. 229 years ago = about eleven generations prior.

During that time, the French had the French Revolution when, they themselves, saw the major flaw in their elite, invented the guillotine and executed Marie Antoinette and many other high fallutin' jerks.

They, then, grew another big crop of the same.

There's nothing about the She racks of the world that a sharp blade can't fix!


89 posted on 07/29/2006 7:40:14 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: SuzyQ2

"It's good to hate the French."

90 posted on 07/29/2006 7:42:07 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

LOL!

French suck!


91 posted on 07/29/2006 7:43:20 PM PDT by MeekMom (Obey the Lord Jesus, the benefits are great!)
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To: SuzyQ2
Joke I received via e-mail ... don't know how many have seen it, but it is cute:

I just got my new Lexus RX400H and returned to the dealer the next day complaining that I couldn't figure out how the radio worked. The salesman explained that the radio was voice activated "Watch this"! He said "Nelson"! The Radio replied "Ricky or Willie?" Willie"! He continued. and "On The Road Again" came from the speakers.

I drove away happy, and for the next few days, every time I'd say "Beethoven" I'd get beautiful classical music, and if I said "Beetles" I'd get one of their awesome songs.

One day , a couple ran a red light and nearly creamed my new car but I swerved in time to avoid them. I yelled "ASSHOLES!".

The French National Anthem began to play, sung by Jane Fonda and Michael Moore, backed up by John Kerry on guitar, Al Gore on drums, Bill Clinton on sax and Ted Kennedy on booze.

Damn, I LOVE this car!


92 posted on 07/29/2006 7:47:22 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (The Democrat party is a bomb-throwing, political terrorist organization)
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To: dfwgator
"It's good to hate the French."

In addition, they wear black tennis shoes. A fashion blunder that borderlines on a sin.

93 posted on 07/29/2006 7:48:03 PM PDT by Earthdweller
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To: billhilly
One Frenchman a couple of hundred years ago.

One can't forever rely upon one good act--not even upon one GREAT act!

As a group, the current French belittle us WHILE they rely upon us.

To admire a group which has open, extreme contempt for you would be down right foolish!
94 posted on 07/29/2006 7:50:11 PM PDT by bannie (HILLARY: Not all perversions are sexual.)
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To: SuzyQ2

Hitler visiting Napoleon's tomb.

95 posted on 07/29/2006 7:53:03 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: SuzyQ2
Chirac Refuses to Attend Reagan's Funeral
96 posted on 07/29/2006 7:54:35 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: thomaswest
The Colonists would surely have been defeated at Yorktown by the British Navy if France had not sent their fleet to block the British.

Actually, I don't believe this is accurate.

Washington and his army had Cornwallis's troops boxed up on Yorktown's peninsula and the British fleet was coming in to evacuate them to fight another day.

The French fleet came up from the Carribean and prevented the English fleet from picking up Cornwallis and his soldiers, leaving them little choice but to surrender, especially with us putting 3600 shells into their position in the past 24 hours.

97 posted on 07/29/2006 7:55:30 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Middle East Interactive Map: http://interneticsonline.com.dish5009.net.ibizdns.com/MEMap.html)
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To: SuzyQ2

some historical black holes have developed about the first world war in particular; the french certainly fought as bravely as the germans and british and were essentially in a multi-year standstill when the US got involved; the refusal-to-charge mutinies occurred in all armies, not just france, once their casualties had reached around 100% of original strength. i am not sure why anyone here would condemn this given the history of the war and this tactic in particular after the years it had been used. freepers who actually think the french suffered from anything other than poor military leadership should really read John Keegan's book on the first world war or some other similar competent text before spouting off on this.

Regarding the second world war i think the vichy government and collaboration on jewish deportation is far more shameful than being taken out by german blitzkrieg (no country on flat terrain did well against this, russia gave up more territory than france had in total) and the failure of belgium to allow allies to deploy in their territory as had been planned as the north part of the maginot line defense system.


98 posted on 07/29/2006 7:59:47 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: dfwgator

Now, THAT is a reason!!!


99 posted on 07/29/2006 8:01:17 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Middle East Interactive Map: http://interneticsonline.com.dish5009.net.ibizdns.com/MEMap.html)
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To: tenthirteen
Most French, men and women, do not bathe or shower much. Who could like such people?

In Vietnam I once went one month without a shower. But because no one in my unit had a shower, It didn't matter. I guess that's how the French do it..

100 posted on 07/29/2006 8:02:03 PM PDT by ExtremeUnction
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