Posted on 07/19/2006 3:22:36 PM PDT by GretchenM
Defying the will of Congress (remember these votes in November!), President Bush sent a veto message (read the president's message here), that he would not sign HR 810, the "Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act of 2005."
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Frist I suppose voted yes because of his medical stance I would presume
One thing that really does get my panties in a wad is that the MSM won't distinguish between adult stem cell research and embryonic stem cell research. The former has had many successes (that's what bone marrow transplants are about, and we all know about those); and the latter has had no success, and may never have.
Too many voters don't know the difference. And the MSM won't tell them.
If you asked people whether they would prefer their money support adult stem cell research, which has had many successes, or embryonic stem cell research, which so far has been a dismal failure, I think the answers would be clear.
There are many private entities and universities that are conducting ESC with private funds, which is how it should be.
Those are called "snowflake babies", and W was in a room full of them. All of them thought it was a good deal!
Adoption is hard these days - many couples have to look overseas. I'd bet that many couples would adopt embryos if that was more common.
That is lovely
Tell me if I am wrong on this Common Tator. The senate vote according to Fox news was 63-37. That is short of the amount needed to override a veto. That seems positive to me. It could be better, but even the Senate didn't have the votes to override on the first pass.
As to the House, it was 250 something to 193? My numbers are a bit off, but in the ballpark. Does that mean the 250 something voted to overturn the veto, or to uphold it?
Even so they didn't have enough to override.
The power of the people on this issue.
you have excellent taste in toasters :)
congrats, and drive your more tardy peers crazy for the night...
I didn't see my Senators on the lists that were posted, but I checked the link. They both voted YEA, both a couple of stinkers. Both running for office. May they get what they deserve.
What do I do about this RINO Lugar? He's worthless.
If I remember correctly, Frist was pushing to get this bill up for a vote. A leader has some clout. He's a stinker just like my two senators.
It is shameful that a bill of this sort came out of a Republican congress. Dubya has been so patient with this bunch of goons. Although the Constitution allows him to veto any legislation he wants, for whatever reason he wants, he has not used this power simply to reinforce his bravado or as a means of holding other issues hostage. He respects that Congress is democratically elected and represents the will of the people. I believe it is for that reason that he has used the veto pen sparingly. This bill, however, stands for everything that would make a moral conscience shudder.
I'll bet nobody here even remembers the "first veto" of any other president? Dubya's makes history. I can't even begin to describe how proud of him I am.
***(One reason why a RINO is a better choice than a RAT any day).***
Good point!
(And my two dem Senators voted for it.)
The more the government tries to push themselves on the masses the more I resist. The government is not responsible for my health and safety in day to day living. They need to get back to basics, IMO.
LOL! Thanks! I drive enough people crazy without trying. ;*)
WOW...what a great statement. Thank you.
(Thank You, Lord, for this president.)
Yes.
That was the thread. I think every Bush hater on the forum flocked to it.
Most of them didn't even understand the issue.
There is no mandate against embryonic stem cell research. It can be done privately. This was a veto over a plan for us (our government) to fund it, which we shouldn't be doing anyway. It's for private companies to do.
Condi's outfit is outrageous.
You got to be kidding
Totally agree, Kaslin. With legs like Condi has, it would be a crime...even a sin... not to show them!
Burr voted for this??? I don't understand that ... unless he had some sort of misguided personal reason to support it.
Boo to Kay Bailey for voting this way. At least Cornyn voted right. I like Kay Bailey most of the time, but she is a little squishy on some issues.
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