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California Gov.: Schwarzenegger 45%, Angelides 45%
Angus Reid ^ | July 2, 2006 | Angus Reid

Posted on 07/04/2006 2:46:47 PM PDT by FairOpinion

Incumbent Arnold Schwarzenegger is tied in California’s gubernatorial race, according to the latest poll by Zogby Interactive. 45 per cent of respondents in the Golden State would vote for Schwarzenegger, while 45 per cent would support Democrat Phil Angelides.

Poll: June 13-17, interactive, 1370 Likely Voters, 2.7% margin of error

(Excerpt) Read more at angus-reid.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2006polls; angelides; angusreid; arnoldpoll; calgov2006; electiongovernor; elections; poll; schwarzenegger; zogby
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To: AmeriBrit

One way or another there are going to be tax hikes in the next few years. The state budget is about to explode. We can't bond our way out of the situation.


21 posted on 07/04/2006 3:37:55 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: FairOpinion

Considering one guy has name recognition with almost everyone on the planet. Angelides seems to be holding up pretty well.


22 posted on 07/04/2006 3:38:11 PM PDT by Democratshavenobrains
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To: olezip

Unless you want to have California in the same shape as New Jersey.... I don't see any social issue differences in the two, but a huge difference in spending, Arnold is more fically conservative, Anglildes has said he'd raise taxes for more social services... of course, all the immigrants everyone is certain will vote GOP are voting for Arnold (not).


23 posted on 07/04/2006 3:45:50 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: SoCal_Republican

That's all part of the plan, bring in enough to overwhelm the voting block and then run their own and make their own rules. Everyone should take a hard look at California...


24 posted on 07/04/2006 3:48:48 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: SoCal_Republican
Side note - Angelides has no chance once everyone understands that his solution is to raise taxes on EVERYONE.

Unbelievable! At this point 45% of CA voters are either ignorant of a looming tax hike OR want to be taxed more. I just don't get it.

25 posted on 07/04/2006 3:57:56 PM PDT by SMM48
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To: FairOpinion
Read Christopher Hitchen's article on "Polls" on another thread this morning and you wont believe or give a damn about any of these polls. They are all bunk. Something I suspected a long time ago.
26 posted on 07/04/2006 4:04:46 PM PDT by fish hawk
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To: Saint Reagan

The poll is of likely voters.

But what is very peculiar, is that they claimed a few days ago, that the results of this poll was 49/41 in favor of Arnold, and a couple of days later they are saying 45/45, without making any reference to the error.

So what to believe?


27 posted on 07/04/2006 4:06:43 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: SoCal_Republican
If Arnie wins he no longer has to worry about re-election. Theoretically he could veto every bill until they agree to cut spending.

What makes you think he actually wants to cut spending?

28 posted on 07/04/2006 4:07:27 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: SMM48

"Unbelievable! At this point 45% of CA voters are either ignorant of a looming tax hike OR want to be taxed more. I just don't get it."

It is more likely they know that CA is going to hell in a handbasket, and want to have their own to pick up the pieces and start over their way. Which is not in the mold of being a state in the Republic of the United States. As many of their papers and booklets state clear as day.

The sad part is the many in DC, seem to not mind this happening. This country or it's government is not the one our grandparnets left us.


29 posted on 07/04/2006 4:09:27 PM PDT by jamie_justice62
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To: NittanyLion

GOVERNOR SCHWARZENEGGER CALLS UPON LAWMAKERS TO STOP THE RED INK



Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger called upon legislators to approve his plan to prevent continued overspending and vowed to let the people do so if the lawmakers do not act. Speaking at Cal Expo, where he shut off a spigot of flowing red water to symbolize the State's autopilot spending problem, the Governor explained why spending control is required.

"I have declared 2005 a year of reform and job number one is reforming our out of control budget system," said Governor Schwarzenegger. "We can't have a system that says for every $1.00 we take in we have to spend $1.10. If we don't get control of the auto-pilot spending, there will be deficits as far as the eye can see and we will risk every program for years to come. If the legislators don't do their job the people will and I will stand with them to stop the red ink."

Under the current budget system, California is always at risk of spending more than it takes in. The Governor's Spending Control Proposal contains reforms that:

Stop auto-pilot formulas from allowing spending to out-pace revenues and require greater budget discipline.

Cut spending when expenditures outpace revenues.

Prevent spending from automatically growing in the absence of a budget.

Block borrowing from special funds to cover general fund obligations.

Close off the state's ability to borrow from K-14 schools (Proposition 98) and transportation (Proposition 42), as well as from special funds.

Require accounts with unpaid debts and no scheduled repayment to be repaid over a period of no more than 15 years.
This year, California took in at least $5 billion more in general fund revenues than last year. Autopilot formulas within the budget system, however, require that the state spend over $10 billion more than it did last year. California does not have a revenue problem, it has a spending problem. The Governor's budget proposal holds spending in line with revenues, but without changing the state's budget process, California will continue to face multi-billion-dollar deficits in future years.



http://www.schwarzenegger.com/news.asp?id=1940


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And he created Prop. 76 based on the above, and the voters defeated it, because the the unions turned out their voters and the conservatives stayed home, suking, instead of helping to pass reform to cut spending.


30 posted on 07/04/2006 4:14:31 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: olezip
"Not a surprise, Not much of a choice..."

Mate, you took the words right out of my mouth.

This race re-defines the old term: "The lesser of two evils."

Arnie Baby would sell his soul for a vote or two. Talk about the original gutless wonder! What an empty (spell dumb) suit; a huge disappointment to alot of Pubs in the state, in all likelihood. I am long gone -- and never looked back, after Davis did his traitorous act on the electorate.

Kalifornia will be a basket case before the decade is out.
31 posted on 07/04/2006 4:16:20 PM PDT by dk/coro
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To: FairOpinion

32 posted on 07/04/2006 4:19:34 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: FairOpinion
And he created Prop. 76 based on the above, and the voters defeated it, because the the unions turned out their voters and the conservatives stayed home, suking, instead of helping to pass reform to cut spending.



Funny how so many always want to ignore that statement. Could it be guilty consciences's perhaps?
33 posted on 07/04/2006 4:27:34 PM PDT by AmeriBrit (LIGHT A PRAYER CANDLE FOR THE TROOPS: http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/enter.cfm)
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To: AmeriBrit

"the voters defeated it, because the the unions turned out their voters and the conservatives stayed home, sulking, instead of helping to pass reform to cut spending."

"Funny how so many always want to ignore that statement. Could it be guilty consciences's perhaps?"


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I don't think they have a guilty conscience, I think they just want to keep blaming Arnold, instead of taking responsibility for their own actions.

Arnold accomplished as much as anyone could in the governor's office, faced with the Dem Legislature. In fact, he did MORE, than anyone before, in this atmosphere he had the courage and took on the public employees unions, and the Dems by calling for the special election and putting props 75-77 on the ballot.


34 posted on 07/04/2006 4:37:53 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: irishjuggler

Good thinking. All-or-nothing crowd sometimes scares me.


35 posted on 07/04/2006 4:50:45 PM PDT by paudio (Universal Human Rights and Multiculturalism: Liberals want to have cake and eat it too!)
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To: FairOpinion

The Mexicanization of California proceeds.


36 posted on 07/04/2006 4:54:46 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: John Lenin
The next 4 years is going to be a no win situation for the governor of CA.

Well, maybe not. The revenues are rolling in nicely into Sacramento's coffers these days (including a fair chunk of my own), and believe it or not (I know you don't take what I say at face value very often), the folks up there have managed to figure out a way to spend it. They are very creative indeed.

37 posted on 07/04/2006 5:29:15 PM PDT by Torie
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To: olezip

Is Angelides Mexican?


38 posted on 07/04/2006 5:57:56 PM PDT by MiHeat
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To: Torie
No win in this case refers to the mandate the election will not establish.

Whether Angelides or Schwarzenegger, the governor will be a plurality choice. The vast majority of the California electorate will dislike the winner. As a plurality winner (receiving support from probably <20% of the electorate), neither will have a mandate. Since both candidates will command little respect from the elected officials in their respective parties, for vastly different reasons, the situation will, indeed, be no win for either.

Both major parties have fouled their own nests with poor gubernatorial candidate choices this time around and the results will be telling on the State of California.

There is a bright side. After 12 years of liberal governors, the state's electorate will be ready for a conservative in 2010. If circumstances don't change drastically in the next 4 years, there will still be a sufficient number of elected conservatives legislators to allow a conservative governor to effectively impede the advances of liberalism under the Davis and Schwarzenegger/Angelides administrations.

39 posted on 07/04/2006 6:03:16 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: AmeriBrit; SoCal_Republican; FairOpinion; NittanyLion
>>And he created Prop. 76 ...

Funny how so many always want to ignore that statement. Could it be guilty consciences's perhaps?

Could it be that many are tired of pointing out that Prop 76 was anything but conservative, did nothing to reduce spending and actually authorized yet more borrowing and issuance of yet more bonds? Those pesky facts keep getting ignored, along with the FACT that the double digit increases in the budget have proposed and approved by the Governor with very little use of his line item veto power. There is absolutely no indication from the actions of the past couple years that this Governor wants to reduce spending or is in favor of smaller government.

40 posted on 07/04/2006 7:54:27 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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