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The Biden Factor
The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review ^ | July 2 2006 | salena zito

Posted on 07/02/2006 6:18:08 AM PDT by NorthEasterner

The Biden Factor By Salena Zito TRIBUNE-REVIEW Sunday, July 2, 2006

Blunt, charismatic, smart and blessed with a can't-help-yourself appeal that crosses most geo-social-economic-political lines.

Meet Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., long-time member of the U.S. Senate Committee on the Judiciary and 13 key subcommittees, from border security to crimes and drugs.

And Democrat presidential candidate in 2008.

"Am I running? Yes," he told me during an interview ranging from the all-important upcoming midterms to his bid for the nation's highest office.

(Excerpt) Read more at pittsburghlive.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Delaware; US: Iowa; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: biden; biden2008; election2006; electionpresident; elections; ia2008; iowa; newhampshire
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To: NorthEasterner

"well i was not advocating him"

Excuse me, but attributing characteristics like, "smart" (LOL) and "charasmatic" are YOUR subjective labels. They were totally unnecessary if all you were reporting was " wanted to show how he is going to run and what he was thinking"
Those subjective descriptions have Nothing to do with "know(ing) what your opposition is up to or how they plan on staking their claim"


61 posted on 07/02/2006 7:34:58 AM PDT by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: NorthEasterner

Your 'nonsense' is well written. Good for you!


62 posted on 07/02/2006 7:36:33 AM PDT by hershey
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To: NorthEasterner
Blunt, charismatic, smart and blessed ...

Joe Biden may be a lot of things.

Smart ain't one of 'em.
63 posted on 07/02/2006 7:37:59 AM PDT by Beckwith (The dhimmicrats and liberal media have chosen sides and they've sided with the Jihadists.)
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To: NorthEasterner
Biden Suffers From Plagiarism
A British politician, Neil Kinnock said: "Why am I the first Kinnock in a thousand generations to be able to get to university? Why is Glenys the first woman in her family in a thousand generations to be able to get to university? Was it because our predecessors were thick? Does anybody really think that they didn't get what we had because they didn't have the talent or the strength or the endurance or the commitment? Of course not. It was because there was no platform upon which they could stand."
Joe Biden said: "I started thinking as I was coming over here, why is it that Joe Biden is the first in his family ever to go to a university? Why is it that my wife who is sitting out there in the audience is the first in her family to ever go to college? Is it because our fathers and mothers were not bright? . . . No, it's not because they weren't as smart. It's not because they didn't work as hard. It's because they didn't have a platform upon which to stand."
64 posted on 07/02/2006 7:38:05 AM PDT by maineman
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To: hershey
Would Dems fall all over themselves in the rush to sign him up?

No, they've already got their Great Black Hope, Barack Obama(Sp?).

65 posted on 07/02/2006 7:38:23 AM PDT by thegreatbeast (Perhaps one)
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To: NorthEasterner

Well, don't give up on FR, although you may need asbestos undergarments now and then. You're right on the "keep your friends close" part.


66 posted on 07/02/2006 7:39:16 AM PDT by Clara Lou (A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality. --I. Kristol)
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To: 9999lakes
A more formidible opponent than most on the Left

Yeah, I'm sure GOP presidential candidates are shaking in their boots.

67 posted on 07/02/2006 7:39:46 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (What you know about that?)
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To: nuconvert

point well taken

he is smart and he is charasmatic

my point would be there were others that were not good people (or good presidents, think Billy boy) that were smart and charasmatic and successfully came from no where and won,

so as republicans be on your toes
be aware

and be prepared to be able to combat wit and charisma it is a potent component of any candidate, an abundance of it has won races for non-qualified candidates , a lack of it has lost races for stellar candidates...
get it??????????????????????


68 posted on 07/02/2006 7:39:46 AM PDT by NorthEasterner (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/opinion/columnists/zito/)
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To: NorthEasterner
****thanks... i am salena zito..excuse me while i go throw up with that thought.

well, i was dead wrong about this place, and it's people*****

Ps: The last time I checked " i " is always supposed to be capitalized. Except of course at the DU, where all grammar rules are optional. Ta-ta.

69 posted on 07/02/2006 7:42:22 AM PDT by Condor51 (Better to fight for something than live for nothing - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: NorthEasterner
Now you're just trolling.

Go post your BS on another Forum. It ain't welcome here.

70 posted on 07/02/2006 7:43:12 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (What you know about that?)
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To: NorthEasterner
I write this nonsense.

Then may I respectfully point out an example of the "nonsense" to which I referred:

Had Democrats wisely embraced national security as their centerpiece, Biden would have been tailor-made for the 2004 election cycle. He seriously considered making a run in 2004. The moderate hawk chock-full of experience and mojo, who was not about to flip or flop on any vote, would have made a serious contender for President Bush.

As to your premise: Had Democrats wisely embraced national security as their centerpiece.... And abandon "choice" and "kumbaya" as their twin pillars of domestic and foreign policy? Not likely. Not ever. We here in the red states may have just fallen from our turnip trucks but we still can spot a scam.

Tailor-made? Serious contender? Tell that to all the incumbent senators who successfully parlayed their "tailor-made" and "serious contender" status into the presidency. But for Kennedy and Harding, the 20th century would have produced none. A Biden candidacy would go nowhere.

71 posted on 07/02/2006 7:44:35 AM PDT by catpuppy
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To: NorthEasterner
"Am I running? Yes," he told me during an interview

I wonder from whom he plagiarized that line? Well, it seems to be from Fritz Holling...

"I've got 4 1/2 years to go on this term, but reporters still want to know, 'Am I running?' Yes, I'm running," Hollings told cheering South Carolina delegates during a breakfast meeting at the Democratic National Convention

Has Joe no original thought?

72 posted on 07/02/2006 7:45:25 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (No.... wire .... hangers!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

how bout...NO?
:)
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/opinion/columnists/zito/


73 posted on 07/02/2006 7:45:30 AM PDT by NorthEasterner (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/opinion/columnists/zito/)
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To: NorthEasterner

The first time I interviewed Joe Biden was in 1982. I didn't like him then and dislike him even more now, more than 20 years later. However, I do agree he has charisma, in a sleazy sort of a way. Why the people of Delaware keep re-electing him is beyond me. But even after 20 years in Delaware politics I was never able to figure out Delaware voters.


74 posted on 07/02/2006 7:47:34 AM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: infidel29

Joe Biden: Cannon Fodder with bad hair plugs. Soon to be the first victim of Hillary's political Arkan-icide.

He'll be toast by November of this year. Without the opposition's need or desire to fire an opening volley!

Jack.


75 posted on 07/02/2006 7:49:44 AM PDT by Jack Deth (Knight Errant and Disemboweler of the WFTD Thread)
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To: dawn53

From Delaware. Believe me, you do NOT want to vote for this guy.


76 posted on 07/02/2006 7:50:36 AM PDT by fschmieg
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To: NorthEasterner

Apparently, you didn't get it, and seem to be taken-in by someone who pretends to be "smart' and "charasmatic".
Biden is neither. He has made so many "unsmart" statements, it's a joke around here. And charasmatic?? Please. His phoney smirk is nauseating.

Clinton, on the other hand, is a master flim-flam man, which requires charisma and cunning. And he is very smart, outside of his personal life. The people who never voted for him recognized what he was.

Biden isn't in the same ballpark, not even in the same city as Clinton.


77 posted on 07/02/2006 7:54:51 AM PDT by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: NorthEasterner
The thing I think you're missing about Free Republic is that it's a conservative forum--not necessarily Republican. There are FReepers who wouldn't vote for McCain or Guiliani even if Hillary was running. As to being treated nicer by Dems, try posting an article that called Condi Rice "smart" and "charismatic" on a liberal site and I guarantee your treatment would be far worse.

Now how about something more important like an article on Diana Irey please?

78 posted on 07/02/2006 7:57:12 AM PDT by RedRover
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To: Gabz

haha i agree
same with Pennsylvania
for the life of me after 15 years working on campaigns in PA i never really got some of the voting trends of this state...for instance who knew that Toomey would bring home Pittsburgh and the rest of western pa and he would lose in the ultra conservative "T" to Specter...???


79 posted on 07/02/2006 7:59:11 AM PDT by NorthEasterner (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/opinion/columnists/zito/)
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To: NorthEasterner
Oh yeah, the uber coward of the party filled with them.

If I remember correctly, this turd was running around prior to the Iraq war ala Chamberlain trying absolutely anything possible to avoid war.

He's the cowards coward!

He's one of the very few people in the world I would love to see take a full running punch flat to the face.
80 posted on 07/02/2006 7:59:58 AM PDT by Pox (If it's a Coward you are searching for, you need look no further than the Democrats.)
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