Posted on 06/21/2006 5:08:05 PM PDT by pissant
The Episcopalians are in disarray as their primate shows her feminist credentials
THE Episcopal Church in America descended into chaos last night after leading bishops on both the liberal and conservative wings dissassociated themselves from a last-gasp effort to avert a schism with the worldwide Anglican Communion.
Just hours after its newly elected woman head preached a sermon in praise of our mother Jesus, the Episcopal Church agreed to exercise restraint in appointing any more gay bishops after a tense day of debate and argument.
The Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Rowan Williams, welcomed the resolution with gratitude and what appeared to be relief, but he also made clear his reservations.
He welcomed the exceptional seriousness with which the Episcopal Church had treated the calls for it to repent and to impose moratoriums on same-sex blessings and the consecration of any more gay bishops. He said that actions by bishops and laity of the Episcopal Church yesterday showed how strong is their concern to seek reconciliation and conversation with the rest of the Communion.
But he continued: It is not yet clear how far the resolutions passed this week and today represent the adoption by the Episcopal Church of all the proposals set out in the Windsor report. The wider Communion will therefore need to reflect carefully on the significance of what has been decided before we respond more fully.
But this fragile consensus was immediately shattered by leading bishops on both sides.
Thirty liberal bishops issued a statement of dissent, saying that they could not abide by the new resolution. Bishop John Chane of Washington, a prominent church liberal who officiates at the National Cathedral in American capital, said that he would not agree to block the ordination of any gay bishop. I will defy the resolution by consenting after prayer and careful consideration to any person duly elected by a diocese in this church, he said.
On the other side, five conservative bishops accused the General Convention of misleading the rest of the Communion by giving a false perception that they intend actually to comply with the recommendations of the Windsor Report. They continued: We therefore disassociate ourselves from those acts of this Convention that do not fully comply with the Windsor Report.
They said that they repudiated the actions of the convention and committed themselves to providing pastoral care to worshippers and parishes on the orthodox wing, so placing themselves also in potential breach of Windsor because this would entail crossing diocesan and parochial boundaries.
The resolution was agreed after panicked bishops summoned the rare joint session of the whole Church at its three-yearly convention. The session was held the day after the 800-strong House of Deputies resoundingly rejected the Anglican hierarchys demand for a moratorium on the consecration of gay bishops.
Delegates, many wearing pink Its a girl badges in celebration of the Right Rev Katharine Schoris election as the new presiding bishop, were warned by the current primate of the Episcopal Church, Frank Griswold, that if they did not at least make an attempt to comply with demands for a moratorium on the consecration of any more gay bishops, they would risk exclusion from key bodies of the Anglican Church.
A proposal put forward by Bishop Griswold committing the Church to exercise restraint by not consenting to the consecration of any candidate for the episcopate whose manner of life presents a challenge to the wider Church and will lead to further strains sailed through the 300-member House of Bishops on a show of hands and was approved 75-34 by clergy delegations and 72-32 by lay delegations in the House of Deputies.
Earlier, at the morning Eucharist at the convention in Columbus, Ohio, Dr Schori signalled her feminist credentials in a sermon that drew on the writings of the 14th-century Julian of Norwich. She said: Mother Jesus gives birth to a new creation and you and I are His children. If were going to keep on growing into Christ images for the world around us, were going to have to give up fear.
Liberals in Britain and America defended her sermon as being in a long tradition of writings by women theologians that use the metaphor of Jesus as mother.
I think so. I would like to see the traditional types move forward and break ranks. The traditional churches will thrive, the others will wither.
And they were one of the original 3 protestant churches. A shame. I think the Lutherans are hanging in there. Not sure about the Calvinists though.
If its bad here in the US, it has to be worse in the UK.
Good for you! Frankly, I sometimes get depressed about not having found a church since becoming a Christian, but it seems to be getting to the point that there isn't one that's trustworthy, regardless of denomination.
Maybe she thinks there are millions of lesbians that were looking for a church to call home.
Ouch!
We'll have to send in Austin Power or Crocodile Dundee to find out.
Gaynazization? Good one! Methinks y'all have coined a phrase.
Most parishes use that form; "for us, and for our salvation". It was part of the PC changes a few years ago, which, I hope will be going the way of the geese with the new Liturgical Norms approved by Pope Benedict. I've continued to say "for us MEN and for our salvation", the whole time, as do many around me, during Mass. I've never thought that anything that says "men" during Mass excludes me, and anyone who does is just WAY too sensitive about it.
The Roman Catholic Church is generally fantastic. I love it. The Pope is a good leader. The American bishops are in their last throes of liberalism (on some issues anyway) and the church has been moving rightward in the last 20 years. In my hometown, there are about 7 parishes. 5 of the 7 are led by very good priests, IMO.
And the mass is beautiful and traditional, as long as you avoid the ones with guys playing guitars and caterwauling. LOL
They're not atheists ... atheists have consciences. These people are servants of the most low.
Actually, from all I've read it's at its worst here in the US. They're still arguing over whether to have women bishops, whereas the first woman bishop in the US was ca 1990 as I recall (and had no pastoral experience, was heavily underqualified -- but she was female and black). They've also been providing alternative oversight for priests who will not tolerate their liberal bishops -- "flying bishops," they're called there.
The one thing possibly worse there is the low attendance. And one bad thing they have that we don't is the state-church tie, which is being used to force more liberalism down their throats.
But all in all, it is the Episcopal church in the U.S. that's driving this madness.
Not in my town. Only the one dingbat priest has used it, that I've heard. And in the last few years I've gone to mass in Laramie WY, Nebraska, Topeka KS, KC MO, LA, Tucson, and few others. I'm happy to report no dropping of "men". :o)
Yikes. It may get worse before it gets better.
This part, for example.
LOL. Yep. Anytime you hear the words "social justice", you be sure the group is a nest of moonbats.
Anthony Esolen seems inclined to agree.
"... a man should have one day of the week to escape seemingly endless chatter."
My wife keeps asking me why I'm looking at my laptop and snickering.
Yep. Fortunately, they have not rewritten the traditional hymns in in the songbooks we get. But they sure included alot of lousy newer songs that I tune out. Awful dirges.
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