Posted on 06/08/2006 11:22:20 AM PDT by freemarket_kenshepherd
The much-criticized claim about jobs Americans wont do seems to have left the presidents vocabulary. But though opponents of illegal immigration call the jobs claim a myth, the network news media have adopted it as an argument that needed addressing.
The American people are the ones hiring these people in many cases to do jobs they dont want to do, NBCs Matt Lauer reminded his Today guest on May 1. Few people question the ability of illegal immigrants to work hard and, according to labor statistics, work cheap on jobs most Americans are unwilling to do, said CBSs Byron Pitts on the April 10 Evening News.
The media are famous for embracing political phrases and running with them but not usually those of George W. Bush. Back in 2004, Bush was saying there are good, honorable, hardworking people here doing jobs Americans wont do. He stuck with that phrase, but his language changed recently, as the CBS Evening News showed May 18. Weve got people sneaking across here because they want to work. And I think it makes sense for them to have an orderly way to come on a temporary basis to do jobs Americans arent doing.
Though Bush has gone from jobs Americans wont do to arent doing, other administration officials havent gotten the memo. White House adviser Dan Bartlett appeared on CNNs The Situation Room May 26 saying, And we need to have a system that is above board, across the board that deals with the realities of our economy and the realities of workers who are doing jobs that Americans wont do.
Even the left-leaning Pew Hispanic Center proved that point was incorrect. [end excerpt]
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Here's a job Americans won't do... report the news objectively. I'd learn Spanish if I could get the truth out of a MSM outlet.
I'm still waiting to hear back about that $50 an hour lettuce picking job.
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The President just said those words yesterday...."jobs americans don't do"
"Jobes Americans won't do" would include CEOs of major corporations, bond traders and investment bankers - if they paid only $3.50/hr.
We should continue to document evidence showing that Americans WILL DO those jobs.
Here's what appears to be some evidence in a post I put on this thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1644910/posts
--COPY OF POST PASTED BELOW --
According to the following, those illegals pushed out Americans willing to work for the SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY:
Back in April, there was THIS story about American workers pushed out by Mexican aliens in the Katrina cleanup:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1612317/posts
-SNIP-
An Alabama employment agency that sent 70 laborers and construction workers to job sites in that state in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina says the men were sent home after just two weeks on the job by employers who told them "the Mexicans had arrived" and were willing to work for less.
Linda Swope, who operates Complete Employment Services Inc. in Mobile, Ala., told The Washington Times last week that the workers -- whom she described as U.S. citizens, residents of Alabama and predominantly black -- had been "urgently requested" by contractors hired to rebuild and clear devastated areas of the state, but were told to leave three job sites when the foreign workers showed up.
"After Katrina, our company had 70 workers on the job the first day, but the companies decided they didn't need them anymore because the Mexicans had arrived," Mrs. Swope said. "I assure you it is not true that Americans don't want to work.
"We had been told that 270 jobs might be available, and we could have filled every one of them with men from this area, most of whom lost their jobs because of the hurricane," she said. "When we told the guys they would not be needed, they actually cried ... and we cried with them. This is a shame."
-UNSNIP-
So, the way it appears, first the aliens pushed out Americans for those jobs by agreeing to work for lower pay, and now they're whining about the low pay and poor working conditions.
But look closer: Though the article above says the illegals are working for $10/hour, and that documented workers earn $16.50/hour, the first article said the Americans were willing to work for $10/hour:
-SNIP-
>>>> "The men we sent to jobs in Alabama were local fellows looking for work, men who needed jobs," Mrs. Swope said. "After driving 50 miles to the work sites where they had been promised $10 an hour, they discovered the employers had found substitutes who were willing to work for less."<<<<
From the original source:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20060410-123506-1297r.htm
There are a lot of jobs Amercans won't do. If you're paying $4 an hour, that is.
" Not sure how reliable they would be as workers."
They would become reliable real quik when there wasn't a place to live and nothing to eat.
Get rid of welfare and the people will do menial jobs..
I've got a client that offers some very good unskilled jobs. In the waiting room for people filling out applications, they run a video containing testimonials from current employees. The testimonials all are about how hard and how demanding the job is. They also talk about the good pay and benefits, but really emphasize that its hard work.
Not surprisingly, an initial group of 25 may whittle down to 10-15 by the time the tape is done. The truth is that there are some people who simply do not want to do the tough jobs. And there are plenty of other people who may accept those jobs, and then not show up, show up drunk, show up late, etc. repeatedly. So they get fired.
There are reasons some people are chronically unemployed, and it has nothing to do with wages or benefits. There are millions of people who lack the personal drive and sense of personal responsibility necessary to get and hold a job. Now maybe if you completely eliminated public assistance, drug dealing, petty crime, etc., you might be able to change those people. But that's not going to happen. So the reality is there are jobs out there than cannot be filled reliably by Americans, because the Americans who would be willing to fill those jobs already have jobs of their own.
Like it or not, that's the way it is.
Americans "don't do", or are too lazy to do? Why should they when Americans get paid more from unemployment, welfare, etc.? Cut back on the free money and we'll see Americans picking lettuce again.
"Jobs americans don't do"
Like software development? Is that why they doubled the H1-Bs?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1638854/posts
We're being sold out!
Actually, there are a lot of jobs that Americans won't do, and they're not necessarily badly paid. It's simply that people with the educational and skills level for them (low) are either collecting their "baby mama's" welfare or are living off of their drug sales.
Roofing laborers, painters helpers, construction grunts, etc. are all receiving $10-14 per hour in my area, but there is a definite shortage of native-born folks who want to do it - or can show up for work more than a day or two in succession because of their drug or alcohol habit. We do have some serious problems with the lower-skills end of the American work-force.
Americans also never see a low-skills job as a step to a higher-skills, higher paid job. A lot of the Mexicans and Central Americans and Brazilians do, however, and they have started off as laborers and ended up owning their own companies. But many lower-skilled Americans have lost their impetus and seem to think that starting at ground level is way beneath them. Even though they can barely read and write, have criminal records, etc., they seem to think that having to go to work every day is an indignity.
Like software development? Is that why they doubled the H1-Bs?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1638854/posts
We're being sold out!
There is a narrative on this board that assumes that underemployment is a function of laziness, lack of drive., etc. BS. Many people I know worked long and hard, with advanced technical degrees, only to find themselves "outsourced". The blandishments about "re-tooling" and "re-educating" are insulting. These people could pick up on any new technology if they were employed. Most of us who are not trust-funded do not have the start-up cash many businesses need, nor are we able to tell the mortgage companies and utilities to "hold off a year or two" while we get a new idea off the ground. The reality for even the professional classes is that we rely on a paycheck to live - a a $4/hr job picking lettuce is not going to do it.
If the US is going to be a technological leader, it needs its technological, professional classes.
Plain and simple propaganda spin.
AND, $50 an hour without paying taxes!
This is just so much b.s. Complete the sentence.
Was: "Jobs that Americans won't do."
Is: "Jobs that Americans won't do for those wages."
Pay me 25 bucks an hour and I'll take any job out there, but I'll be darned if I'll leave my present job at 25 bucks an hour for anything less. And why should I?
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