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England afraid to fly its own flag
YNet ^ | June 4, 2006 | Modi Kreitman

Posted on 06/04/2006 7:43:53 AM PDT by Alouette

Following threats by extremist Islamic group, several corporations, chain of pubs ban England flag

Following warnings by extremist Islamic group al-Muhajiroun, in which the group said that the red cross in the England flag symbolizes the 'blood thirsty crusaders' and the occupation of Muslims, some of the largest companies in England have ordered their workers not to wave the flags.

The flag has recently appeared in England on everything from bikinis to cars, and sold in endless versions in stores.

But the Islamic protest forced some corporations, such as cable companies NTL, Heathrow airport in London, and even the Drivers and Vehicles Licensing Agency to ban the flag in every form due to fears from reactions of Muslims.

The Sun tabloid newspaper has in recent days launched a campaign to bring back the flag, and has published a blacklist of companies preventing their workers from expressing their patriotism at work.

The Sun said that a large pub network has banned drinkers from entering with symbols of the national team.

The hero of the day is a two year-old toddler, who was thrown out with his parents from Leicester, because he wore the England team's uniform.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: britain; dhimmis; dhimmitude; dontletthemwin; england; eurabia; flag; islam; muslims; sharia; uk; ukmuslims; unionjack
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To: El Gato
The flag to which I referred is not the flag of England. The white ground, with red cross and union flag in the upper left quarter is the White Ensign.
101 posted on 06/04/2006 5:12:20 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (We are all foot soldiers in this War On Terror.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
I wonder if lefty moslems object to the politically correct cross of St. Andrew (the Scots flag)?

Probably not but the nationalistic Scots do they prefer this flag

102 posted on 06/04/2006 5:12:52 PM PDT by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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To: MadIvan

I agree in fact I nearly took some photos on Friday as there were a line of cars at the traffic lights each with 2 flags one on each side window. Plus they were parked next to a house that the top window is totally covered by an England flag.


103 posted on 06/04/2006 5:14:20 PM PDT by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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To: MadIvan

Its probably one town in the midlands that has got upset.


104 posted on 06/04/2006 5:14:45 PM PDT by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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To: SE Mom

Thanks for the ping does not bear out what I am seeing in my town though.


105 posted on 06/04/2006 5:17:30 PM PDT by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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To: MadIvan
I think I'll take my digital camera into town tomorrow so you all can see how much the England flag is flying.

Please do. I would be delighted to be proved wrong.

BTW, pure nitpicking, I think the author of this article had in mind the St. George's Cross, which is rarely flown by itself, but everyone who reads it will immediately think of the Union Jack which is the UK flag we are all familiar with.

106 posted on 06/04/2006 5:35:54 PM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 44-48)
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To: snugs

I'm delighted to hear that:)


107 posted on 06/04/2006 5:43:55 PM PDT by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve.)
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To: WOSG

You're actually wrong. Patron saint of Scotland is Saint Andrew: White saltaire on blue background. Patron saint of England is Saint George; red cross on white background Patron Saint of Ireland is Saint Patrick; red saltaire on white background. Wales isn't included in the union jack.


108 posted on 06/04/2006 6:03:32 PM PDT by TypeZoNegative (".... We are a nation of Americans. We are DECENDED from legal immigrants"- johnandrhonda)
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To: Alouette

And I thought we had caved to the islamofascists.


109 posted on 06/04/2006 7:53:07 PM PDT by NavVet (O)
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To: White Bear
Maybe we really do need a "new" crusade.

Unfortunately, we lack military men like the Lion-heart, statesmen like Godfroi desBoullion, and religious leaders like Urban II... and truth be told, even they didn't get the job done!

110 posted on 06/04/2006 9:20:53 PM PDT by night reader (NRA Life Member since 1962)
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To: Alouette

bump


111 posted on 06/04/2006 9:48:55 PM PDT by lowbridge (I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming, like his passengers.)
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To: Canard
They haven't banned them during 'such a time', the pub chain in question has had a ban on customers wearing any football shirts for two years (as is stated in the original story, but you wouldn't have found out from the shoddily written story linked in the OP). That is not specific to the England national shirt, has nothing to do with muslims, and isn't particularly uncommon amongst city centre pubs.
That makes more sense, though I will say that if a bar in Cleveland banned all football shirts, including Browns gear, they would likely end up out of business rather quickly.

-Eric

112 posted on 06/05/2006 4:41:16 AM PDT by E Rocc (Myspace "Freepers" group moderator)
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To: Alouette

Oh good lord.......

Hey England ...........just tell the Muzzies to go f**k themselves.


113 posted on 06/05/2006 5:28:58 AM PDT by RightOnline
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To: Canard
Wow. I didn't mean to upset anyone to this extent.

England doesn't exist in any legal sense. Northern Ireland has a legal existence, Scotland has a legal existence, but England exists only as part of "England and Wales," and Wales has its own national assembly while England has nothing but the Westminster (Union) Parliament. Ulster, Scotland, and Wales have capital cities while London is the capital of the United Kingdom.

Many years ago saw a news story on television about signs in Wales saying "Brits out," which I thought was ironic since the Welsh are the most British people in Britain.

The Celtic nations are all the beneficiaries of Leftist nationalism whereas English nationalism is "rightwing" and therefore forbidden (besides, "English nationalism" manifests itself mostly as "British"ism and Unionism though there are a few English nationalist movements). Kindly inform me if there are any Maoist movements supporting English nationalism (like Scotland has in the Scottish National Liberation Army). I picked up the notion that English nationalism (as opposed to "British" nationalism) is considered forbidden from the Internet. I apologize if I have been mistaken, but I'm sure there are people whose experience is different from your own.

Again, I did not intend my post to be so offensive.

114 posted on 06/05/2006 6:10:54 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Barukh Kevod HaShem mimMeqomo!)
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To: snugs

As an English-American (Yay! I have an "ancient homeland!), I wish there were "nationalistic English" who weren't stereotypical anti-Semites (the few small English separatist movements I'm aware of are pretty scary). Unfortunately, England's identity is invested entirely in the Union, meaning that English identity is utterly submerged in British identity while the Scots and Welsh remain distinctive.


115 posted on 06/05/2006 6:14:11 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Barukh Kevod HaShem mimMeqomo!)
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To: Alouette

My town is covered in the St George's flag at present because of the world cup.

The local shops are all selling St George flags that fit on side car windows.

There are banners, mugs pens etc all bought out for the world cup with the St George's flag on them.


116 posted on 06/05/2006 6:28:44 AM PDT by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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To: El Gato
don't forget Cornwall!
117 posted on 06/05/2006 6:32:19 AM PDT by pau1f0rd (Still more majestic shalt thou rise, More dreadful from each foreign stroke.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

'mainstream' English nationalism has been growing in recent years, in part as a reaction against the EU and Scottish separatism. Ten years ago St George flags were almost non-existent on the streets of England. Right now, you can't move for them. It's ironic that the title of the post is claiming that we daren't fly our flag right at the moment when the flag is flying everywhere!

I do believe that most English people have a loyalty to England before Britain. Note that there is no British soccer team for example.


118 posted on 06/05/2006 6:40:33 AM PDT by pau1f0rd (Still more majestic shalt thou rise, More dreadful from each foreign stroke.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
"It might be useful to ask why the UK let all this trash into their lovely island."

To do the jobs Americans won't do?

119 posted on 06/05/2006 6:41:44 AM PDT by Thom Pain (Supporting the Constitution is NOT right wing. It is centrist.)
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To: MadIvan
Well, it's the same old story, I think, as it is in every country, including the U.S.

These are politically-correct, corporatist appeasers, trying to rid the world of any expression of national pride. Bad for business, you know.

In Western countries, we are made to feel guilty to hold any desire to continue to exist as a people, a coherent cultural entity.

120 posted on 06/05/2006 6:53:41 AM PDT by B Knotts
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