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The trouble with boys
http://www.startribune.com/562/story/457984.html ^ | May 28, 2006 | Leonard Sax

Posted on 05/29/2006 6:17:29 PM PDT by rhema

I n the romantic comedy "Failure to Launch," Matthew McConaughey plays a young man who is affable, intelligent, good-looking -- and completely unmotivated. He still lives at home and seems to have no ambitions beyond playing video games, hanging out with buddies and having sex. In desperation, his parents hire a professional motivation consultant, played by Sarah Jessica Parker, who pretends to fall in love with McConaughey's character to motivate him to grow up and get a life.

I was struck by how this theme matches what I see in my office with greater and greater frequency; a son goes off to college for a year or two, wastes thousands of dollars of his parents' money, then gets bored and comes back to live in his old room. Now he's working part time at Kinko's or part time at Starbucks.

It is a phenomenon that is getting a lot of media attention as part of the so-called "boy crisis" and one that cuts across all demographics -- rich, poor, black, white, urban and rural. According to the Census Bureau, one-third of young men ages 22 to 34 are still living at home with their parents -- a roughly 100 percent increase in the past 20 years. That is not true of young women. Why?

Before growing into unmotivated young adults, boys are more likely than girls to be diagnosed with ADHD, be in remedial classes and become dropouts. Boys are now significantly less likely than girls to go to college.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: adulthood; males
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To: Leatherneck_MT

LOL!


121 posted on 05/30/2006 8:34:23 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Let all creation sing of salvation. Let us together give praise forever!)
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To: rhema
Many in this society have put so much emphasis on women, lesbians, gays and every other sexual identity and then ask themselves why the boys aren't doing so well. Then they point to it and say we told you so. So, the MO is: create the problem, pretend like you are there to fix it and in doing so redefine it.

By the way, when people are defined by acronyms early in life then perhaps they tend to live out the acronym. The ADHD, ABCD and ZYZZ is a bunch of nonsense. The problem is that this is all the results of the redefining of boys by many parents who buy into the nonsense of labeling. Basically, they suppress gender specific tendencies which makes things worse.

Boys are growing up other then themselves because the PC society doesn't like the "typical boy". So, since the typical boy is no longer acceptable, lets pump some drugs into them so that they fit a more desirable profile.

Parents, it's all up to you. Spend enough time with your children that you will never need to rely on anybody to tell you who your son or daughter should be.
122 posted on 05/30/2006 8:39:23 AM PDT by SQUID
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To: dljordan

Dads don't have any right other than the right to be a wage-slave to pay the bills.

Don't do it your wife's way these days and she will use the power of the state to destroy you.

Glad you got your bluff in early.


123 posted on 05/30/2006 8:46:56 AM PDT by GourmetDan
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To: agrarianlady

I'm hoping that SamAdams76's sons don't marry any women who are 'smarter than them but love them anyway'. Those wouldn't be the 'good ones'.

Nothing like a wife who looks down her nose at ther husband.


124 posted on 05/30/2006 8:49:53 AM PDT by GourmetDan
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To: GourmetDan

Forgive me for being somewhat angry that SamAdams says daughters are pieces of trash that he doesn't want. I highly respect my husband and look up to him. We both have strengths and weaknesses.


125 posted on 05/30/2006 8:54:13 AM PDT by agrarianlady
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To: agrarianlady

I guess we have different opinions about what 'highly respect' means.

My definition doesn't include bragging about being 'smarter than him', yours apparently does.

It's amazing what you can justify w/ the proper definitions.


126 posted on 05/30/2006 8:57:24 AM PDT by GourmetDan
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To: Tax-chick
I'm always amazed, when we have boys out at Scout camp for a weekend, how the "ADD" ones do just fine

Summer camp is a great way to instill self-reliance and let a boy really be a normal boy. They are kept busy in physical activities from morning to night, with athletic college men supervising them, instead of fat, lazy, bitter, old teacher's-union lesbians.

Most summer camps still have the kids doing manly things like team sports, archery, riflery, fishing, horseback riding, etc. There are camps for computers, music, drama, etc., but that's not what I think most FReepers are seeking for their lads. Overnight camps are better than day camps for learning how to get along in a group of other boys without Mommy being there to kiss every boo-boo.

-ccm

127 posted on 05/30/2006 10:51:39 AM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order)
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To: ccmay

All very good points. Our 15-year-old daughter will be going to a university science camp this summer, but the boys will be doing fairly primitive Scout camps, and my husband will be there for part of the time for both of them. With eight children, it's hard for him to spend as much individual time with each one as they would like - they fight over him!


128 posted on 05/30/2006 10:57:44 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Let all creation sing of salvation. Let us together give praise forever!)
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To: Little Ray

I'm sorry to hear about your school's problem with boy-friendly literature. What a waste of time not to use material that captured your and other boys' imaginations.

I just watched "The Scarlet Pimpernel" again last night. Love the story.


129 posted on 05/30/2006 11:05:26 AM PDT by GretchenM (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus.)
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To: Fairview
Ummm..

That's not the word I was using.

130 posted on 05/30/2006 11:25:51 AM PDT by Erasmus (Zwischen des Teufels und des tiefen, blauen, Meers.)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

I agree. Let boys be boys.

When my oldest boy was in Kindergarten, his teacher called me to report in hushed tones about an "incident." There had been a fire drill and while the kids were lined up on the sidewalk outside, my son had - gasp - climbed to the top of the STOP sign. I said "thanks, what's the problem?"

Kids need structure, then freedom within that structure to be kids. Little boys need to be boys. Nature knows what she's doing.


131 posted on 05/30/2006 11:39:31 AM PDT by David Allen (the presumption of innocence - what a concept!)
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To: SamAdams76
First mistake was paying for the kids college. I have no intentions of paying for my kid to go to school, they need to have a job in hs to save up and take out loans.

Second mistake was paying for a huge wedding for a girl who got pregnant out of wedlock (I would not pay 25K in any case but especially not if the girl was pregnant).
132 posted on 05/30/2006 11:44:06 AM PDT by N3WBI3 ("I can kill you with my brain" - River Tam)
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To: SQUID

You wrote:

"Basically, they suppress gender specific tendencies which makes things worse."

DING! DING! DING!

I have sons who are working, thriving, living in their own places, as young adults. I KNOW that I did it right because they're great adults, with solid male identfication, partially because I didn't let any school teachers or counselors convince me to medicate them from the first grade on.

Boys have to be allowed to be boys. Their behaviors must not be treated as BAD. They're louder, they're more physical, they're more aggressive.


133 posted on 05/30/2006 11:47:46 AM PDT by David Allen (the presumption of innocence - what a concept!)
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To: agrarianlady; SamAdams76
Forgive me for being somewhat angry that SamAdams says daughters are pieces of trash that he doesn't want.

Maybe I missed that post.

Could you point me to it?

134 posted on 05/30/2006 11:48:18 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Most Congressmen are excellent Bovine Scatologist's)
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To: GretchenM

I never had any problem with boy-friendly literature - the library was full of it. Not just the books mentioned, but Colby books (on Our Armed Forces), Landmark History books, etc.
Teachers had a problem with me reading in class...


135 posted on 05/30/2006 12:10:58 PM PDT by Little Ray (If you want to be a martyr, we want to martyr you.)
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To: Beagle8U
Actually, "Moose," is an Arabic word. As in "Moose-Lim." So the plural would be "WAmoose." It is also an expletive used in Maine when one or two of these creatures take a mind to charge your pick-up truck.

The you should "VAmoose."

136 posted on 05/30/2006 12:56:28 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Kerry, Kerry, he's the man! If he can't do it, Hillary can.)
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To: rhema

bttt


137 posted on 05/30/2006 1:10:05 PM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion have been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: David Allen

Cheers David. Great job!


138 posted on 05/30/2006 3:14:54 PM PDT by SQUID
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To: Maury
Moosen! ;) Many Much Moosen!

In the woods. In the woodsens!

139 posted on 05/30/2006 3:21:43 PM PDT by whd23
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To: SQUID

It's a real sore spot for me, because I saw the sons of others bowled over with that stuff, all because dad is out of the picture, mom is working and is sucked in by the psychobabble they feed her at school.

There isn't anything that needs to be fixed about boys who don't want to behave as if they are girls.


140 posted on 05/30/2006 7:04:29 PM PDT by David Allen (the presumption of innocence - what a concept!)
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