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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: pissant; Pukin Dog
It's that horse-barn thing. Too late.

However, in real life, when you realize your horse is out of the barn, what do you do? Do you throw up your hands and resign yourself to the loss of your horse. I suggest that a sensible approach is to go out and find your horse and bring him back. You may not be successful in that, but not trying guarantees failure.

561 posted on 05/17/2006 10:07:16 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: Mo1

Are you watching the senate?

On my way into the house from my front porch, I "think" I just heard FNC report that the senate is close to passing a "guest worker" program! Tell me I heard wrong!


562 posted on 05/17/2006 10:07:49 AM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Pukin Dog
I'm a strong proponent of the 2nd amendment. The Democrats are controlled by a predominantly anti-gun agenda. I vote Republican to keep the Democrats from having enough votes to pass more gun control laws.

My rep, Mike Simpson, is not a strong proponent of the 2nd amendment. He has a Democrat challenger who claims to be a strong 2nd amendment supporter. The Democrat is also a union member who oozes socialist remarks at every turn. I have no doubt that his claims of being pro-2nd amendment would be squelched by senior Democrats putting the squeeze on a junior member to "get in line" with the Democrat party. I won't let that happen.

563 posted on 05/17/2006 10:08:02 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Pukin Dog

Great post, Dog. We can agree to disagee and have a civil debate over where the Republican party should take us. But come November we'd better close ranks and keep the Democrat cretins from power.


564 posted on 05/17/2006 10:08:27 AM PDT by rockthecasbah (Don't wait for 6 strong men to take you to church.)
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To: Oliver Optic

They're not "rabid", they're just "One Issue Wonders".


565 posted on 05/17/2006 10:08:30 AM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: zarf

I don't believe conservatives want to 'nuke' brown people. They're frustrated and extremely worried about the War on Terror, Iraq, Iran, Israel, NK, and leaky borders -- not to mention the usual suspects in the senate. (It certainly doesn't help to get up in the morning, turn on the TV and find out that Fatso Kennedy, your senior senator, is agreeing in public with President Bush.)


566 posted on 05/17/2006 10:09:08 AM PDT by hershey
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To: Sir Gawain

So am I and I've been here for over a year and a half. Are some FReepers more equal than others in your mind?


567 posted on 05/17/2006 10:09:17 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (DemocRATs- the CULTURE OF TREASON!)
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To: tarheelswamprat

See posts 193, 267, and 402. I've been wrangling horses on FR the whole time I've been here.


568 posted on 05/17/2006 10:09:18 AM PDT by pissant
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To: Peach
They are opinion shapers. we have all seen screen names recently that we've never seen before although they signed up years ago. They come here to stir dissent and create an atmosphere of anger and drive a wedge between Republicans.

Peach, the problem is that there are conservatives who are legitimately upset with certain things this administration has done. Falsely accusing those of us who have been GOP supporters for years does not help the conservative cause either. It just drives people away from the Party. I know there are trolls on here, but that doesn't mean any conservative who is very upset with Bush right now is a troll.
569 posted on 05/17/2006 10:09:22 AM PDT by NinoFan
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To: kitkat
The democrats are, whether they all know it or not, COMMUNISTS.

I don't believe all of them are. And in fact I don't believe that even a majority of them are. Now if you want to say, "The democRAT leadership are...," or, "Those controlling the democRAT Party are...," then you have a genuine point that I cannot refute. But I know a lot of rank and file democRATs who are basically good Americans. People like Zell Miller who put their country ahead of party.

570 posted on 05/17/2006 10:09:22 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ
The best I can gather from this post is that there can be no debate because if you disagree with the Bush stance you are evil.

Then you have some major problems with reading comprehension.

571 posted on 05/17/2006 10:09:42 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: ohioWfan

Fine by me. I'll grant you all points to get past the pissin contest.

You're correct. For whatever reason, the voters, incidentally on the same side of the incumbent, voted to keep DeWine, thus encouraging RINO's to believe that the less conservative they act, the more chance they have of getting re-elected.

So what, in addition to casting our vote against the milquetoast candidate in a primary, can we do to encourage the machinery of the party to support more conservative candidates? Otherwise, even if the GOP maintains control of the govmt, will they eventually trend away from DeLays and toward the DeWines?

Or is voting as the losing loyal conservative minority in our own "party" all we should ever aspire to?


572 posted on 05/17/2006 10:09:47 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Fudd Fan
"encouragement from Pukin Dog" to be civil does that? My my, what a thin skin you have.

Well, just read the thread, friend...

573 posted on 05/17/2006 10:09:55 AM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the whole trailer park...)
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To: Pukin Dog
In ranting before my coffee was ready, I mistakenly attributed Lincoln Chaffee to Massachusetts instead of Rhode Island. Can you fix it for me, so I don't come of as a TOTAL loser?

*************

Hey. I'm from Massachusetts and I fell for it this morning. I'm blaming lack of coffee as well.

574 posted on 05/17/2006 10:10:00 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Pukin Dog
Happy FReeperversay!

Frankly, I have no comment on your “rant”, but you sure hit a hornet’s nest swinging your bat.

This sure is an entertaining thread on an otherwise slow day. Thanks!!

575 posted on 05/17/2006 10:10:03 AM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Nothing witty hereā€¦ move on.)
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To: Pukin Dog

Yes, please fix the Chaffee attribution. We in MA have more than enough to be embarrassed about.


576 posted on 05/17/2006 10:10:23 AM PDT by hershey
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To: Spiff

I can't figure out why *any* of them voted against me.

Maybe Shelby is OK, but Brownback has turned into a complete RINO on this issue.


577 posted on 05/17/2006 10:10:31 AM PDT by rcocean (Copyright is theft and loved by Hollywood socialists)
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To: staytrue
"We have no need for irrational angry people."

After reading your whole post, this was kind of an amusing concluding comment. I'm not saying I don't agree with your comments regarding those who threaten to ditch the Republican Party. It is just clear you are a little angry about the whole thing (irrationally or not).

578 posted on 05/17/2006 10:10:41 AM PDT by Rokke
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To: pissant

Then you might want to show that in your posts because my impression from reading them here (I just do not have time to investigate all prior posts before madly typing my "pearls of wisdom" needed on a thread) is that you were one of the "destroyers" who believe we can only get the GOP to listen when we make them lose.

And - that - in these times is the recipe for total destruction of this country.


579 posted on 05/17/2006 10:10:44 AM PDT by ClancyJ (To cause a democrat to win is the most effective way to destroy this country.)
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To: The Return of the King

Any takers?


580 posted on 05/17/2006 10:11:08 AM PDT by Rebelbase (" Bush II: What's good for Mexico is good for America." --FReeper, Vigilanteman.)
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