Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog
Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]
"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858
It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?
A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.
Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.
We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.
In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.
The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.
The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.
We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.
The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.
Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.
I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.
This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.
I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.
Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.
I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?
Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?
If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.
Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.
Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?
Do it for Pukin.
I knew that you could.
Odd to ne, Were you banned or not? For awhile, anyway?
Just curious. JLO
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They are all over Franklin. Go down Columbia Ave. and it's one Mexican store after another. And some don't even bother with English. All signs and words on the windows are in Spanish and they have several ads for money transfer services and phone cards.
We are overrun.
"I was perusing this thread and noticed Travis McGee has been banned. That is quite a shock to me."
Yes. I read that thread in which he was taken out. He was pointing out that if illegal immigration was allowed to continue spinning out of control it would eventually cause balkanization and violent conflict. He expressed his hopes that, if it did occur, that everyone who was responsible for the policies that allowed/encouraged it to happen would perish in that conflict. He was accused of "advocating violence" and nailed.
Good grief...don't cherry-pick what I write.
I certainly share your hope that this country never shares the destiny of the early Roman Republic. I stand by my criticism of the masses. Sure, people should be able to enjoy what they've worked for. However, they should also have some sense of responsibility for serving the nation that's made this life possible for them.
The point I was trying to make last night (in my semi-sleep-deprived state) is that complaining about our leaders is healthy, but criticism should be accompanied by new ideas and initiatives. If people don't like what's on the political menu, they should get in the kitchen, not throw their plates at the baker. That's exactly what the people Pukin Dog and I were addressing are doing.
I share your optimism about America's potential, but potential needs to be tapped. My hope is that there are enough people like you and Pukin Dog willing to stand out from the (alternatingly complaining and complacent) masses and take action.
You lose the "not worth the ping" option when you insult a Freeper by name in a post. For being such a "veteran" Freeper I can't believe you don't know the rules about posting here. But since you claim you have no idea why Travis was banned, maybe you really don't. I'm certain that if you continue to ignore FreeRepublic posting rules, you will soon be given the opportunity to join him on some "America is doomed to civil war" nutjob site (if you're not there already). What I can't understand is why you don't just leave of your own volition. It would appear a vast majority of your time here lately is spent bashing the President and many of the folks who post here. (Sometimes you even let them know you are doing it). Take a hint and find somewhere you can hang out with people you actually agree with.
As far as your last comments are concerned...I'd ask you to support them, but I know that's not your forte. Spew and run. But considering your slander of Nashville and its mythical "100,000 illegals", I have no doubt who the real "South Basher" is. And I'm not sure your dishonesty and cowardice make you someone the South would be proud to claim in the first place.
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Bump for long future read.
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In a perfect world there would be no rules, labor would be at whatever the market would bear. No minimum wage or living wage which is what piecework is. You are paid what you are worth.
That said, due to security after the border is closed then ID cards are vital to determine who is criminal and who is not. So no, employers who are hiring illegals are only reacting to the market and until there is a guest worker program they should continue what they are doing to survive.
Pray for W and Our Troops
Amazing how you are so willing to close entire industries rather than hire cheap labor. Your premise is right though, either we react and compete with the rest of the world and it's labor advantages or let our labor intensive industry go overseas. That is the basis of the World Economy whether or not we like it or not.
Why do you care about the mix? If we have all Asians who cares as long as we get the job done. The fact is the Turd world is right across the Rio. Using this labor only makes sense because we are overqualified for most of these jobs.
You also say that Americans are willing to pay more for American workers. Tell that to Ford and GM or walk through your house and see how much say made in China.
Pray for W and Our Troops
Whatever you want makes no difference to me. The only law in Capitalism is the law of supply and demand. Seems like namecalling suits you.
Pray for W and Our Troops
Outstanding job nuker! It'll probably earn you a spot on his "troll" list. Where he's redefined troll to be anyone other than a sychophant.
The idiot trolls don't seem capable of the same thoughtful argument, and seek to attack the messenger, rather then the message. Jim Robinson has made it plain that there is no room for that on the forum when our goal should be to maintain the Republican majority in spite of how they currently appear to not be listening to us.
The idiot trolls are here for another reason, to divide this forum into camps of Bots/Haters/Losers encouraging those who are here to learn about the issues of the day to stay away, lest they find themselves the target of a personal troll attack.
I am used to the nonsense which seeks to drive me and my perspective from here, and I consider small minds like yours only validation that when you have no argument and are left only with snide comments, silly anger, and cliquish devotion, you are a troll. And if you are a troll, your time here is short.
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