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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: CWOJackson

And Cantwell leads the fight against ANWR drilling.


3,281 posted on 05/18/2006 7:24:34 PM PDT by SW6906 (5 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, guns and ammunition.)
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To: pollyannaish
And please don't forget our "conservative" libertarian friends in Washington state...who also gave us our fine governor.

I still remember how they were jumping up and down and high fiving here on FR the night Cantwell won.

3,282 posted on 05/18/2006 7:24:48 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: A CA Guy
Are you this angry all the time?

One Hell of a way to live..........

3,283 posted on 05/18/2006 7:25:02 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: SW6906

Yep, and today the House voted to kill any chance of drilling in the Gulf of Mexico...and no one seems to care.


3,284 posted on 05/18/2006 7:25:52 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Lakeshark

It's not every day the Senate awards Amnesty and Social Security to people who worked with phony documents.

It is a very special day.


3,285 posted on 05/18/2006 7:27:01 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: CWOJackson
Dang.

And the House had been doing so well.

3,286 posted on 05/18/2006 7:27:46 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Lakeshark
WASHINGTON - The House rejected an attempt Thursday to lift a quarter-century congressional ban on offshore oil drilling in coastal waters outside the western Gulf of Mexico amid arguments that new supplies are needed to lower energy prices.

A proposal to end the long-standing moratoria as it applies only to pumping natural gas was expected to be voted on later in the evening as lawmakers moved toward late-night approval of a $25.9 billion Interior Department spending bill.

3,287 posted on 05/18/2006 7:30:00 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
grrrrr. I can still barely talk about that.
3,288 posted on 05/18/2006 7:31:34 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: A CA Guy
Yes, lots of the Senators suck. The actual amendments were a bit different than you describe, they didn't vote for amnesty or SS benfits actually. They also voted on English as an official language for the US, which was quite the amazing victory.

Remember, whatever they vote on has to be reconciled by the House. The crazy stuff will not hold on as a result. The language thing probably will.

3,289 posted on 05/18/2006 7:31:34 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Lakeshark

I've already repeatedly addressed it in earlier posts from when you posted what you addressed. I suggest you are the one who chooses not to be serious by posting questions which had earlier been addressed. The answers will not change no matter how often you ask the same/similar questions.


3,290 posted on 05/18/2006 7:31:38 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: A CA Guy
Well, bless your heart. Perhaps the reason they all stick together is because they feel a trifle unwelcome from people such as you.

I think you are getting a bit too emtional about this issue. Postin a mariachi band picture isn't going to accomplish much.

Besides, I LIKE mariachi music; it is cheerful!

3,291 posted on 05/18/2006 7:32:07 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: CWOJackson

Dang. Do you know the vote numbers?


3,292 posted on 05/18/2006 7:32:30 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Lakeshark

"The proposal to allow oil drilling in waters off both coasts and in the eastern Gulf of Mexico — areas off limits to energy companies since 1981 — was rejected by a 279-141 vote. It had been offered by Rep. Ted Poe, R-Texas, who called the drilling ban "an outdated policy" when the country wants to reduce its dependence on imports."


3,293 posted on 05/18/2006 7:34:48 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: nicmarlo
Acatually you didn't address my question. You changed the subject. I asked a two folder:

1. Did I describe our differences correctly?
2. Are you willing to give up on all those other things you believe in (which I listed) for this one issue?

3,294 posted on 05/18/2006 7:35:04 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Lakeshark
Yes, pray to God the House blocks it.

We do need to maintain a database of these names both Republican and Democrat and work our butts off to get replacement electable Republicans for our bad ones and Republicans to challenge strongly those other Democrat seats.

We need to find this important enough to not forget. We need to take action so the politicians act like the ones with the contract with America. At this time they act like they have a contract ON America.
3,295 posted on 05/18/2006 7:36:33 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: CWOJackson
*Leaves holding his head while shrieking*

:-(

3,296 posted on 05/18/2006 7:36:46 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Lakeshark

You described our differences, but not correctly.
I suggest you are the one willing to give up everything.


3,297 posted on 05/18/2006 7:37:02 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: A CA Guy
I'm with you there......work to get RINO's out.

Big time.

3,298 posted on 05/18/2006 7:38:04 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Lakeshark

The good news is, they were able to use the immigration debate as a smokescreen. Want to bet that this hardly gets mentioned by the radio talk show hosts tomorrow?


3,299 posted on 05/18/2006 7:38:14 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
Yep, Cantwell "won" by something like 3500 votes where the Libertarian candidate got some tens of thousand of votes (total votes counted was several million, IIRC). The Libertarian party elected Maria Cantwell.

But then, that was before we found out how crooked King COunty is and that those 3500 votes (and then some) were likely fraudulent.....Gorton was robbed, but he's such a "let's all get along" RINO, he never made an issue of it.

3,300 posted on 05/18/2006 7:38:19 PM PDT by SW6906 (5 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, guns and ammunition.)
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