Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog
Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]
"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858
It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?
A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.
Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.
We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.
In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.
The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.
The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.
We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.
The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.
Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.
I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.
This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.
I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.
Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.
I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?
Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?
If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.
Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.
Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?
Do it for Pukin.
I knew that you could.
Gosh, then I'm an elitist too....oh man....tears......breaking down in fits of laughter....
Absolutely 100% right. I've seen so many pro border enforcement freepers banned over the last few years. Nowadays all those who used to post thoughtful pro border enforcement comments with links to back them up are long gone - banned. I've seen many of the threads over the years where they were banned. They would be attacked, vilified, namecalled, and in return would doggedly try to stick to the facts. Eventually some of them would respond in kind and boom - instant banning. Others never did resort to sinking to the level of the name-callers but were banned anyway.
Now on this thread for the first time I see the moderators taking an active part in attacking posters. Posting to the thread in an insulting way. If you're moderating you should stick to that and not start posting under the moderator screen name. If you want to call names post under your freeper screen name. It's really sad to see FR sink to this level, from a once good site for conservative activism it's now just one group in power bashing those who don't toe the party line.
And turn the thermostat down. This is halfway, and not so bad if you would simply read what he is proposing.
Now.......the amnesty he gives is not arresting them (no one, including Ronald Reagan has done that for 100 years, so you can stop blaming Bush), but giving them a period of time in which they have to register or be arrested and deported, and after they sign up they have a limited time in which they have to work, then they have to go home and then they may apply at the back of the line for citizenship like anyone else.
Partial amnesty at best. As compared with massive armed deportation that you want, seems like a winner, and is even possible to do as opposed to your idea. Gets them registered, so we know who and where they are, gets them to deport themselves in time.
Pretty good compared to the TC's right?
Perhaps you should consider the border crowd is every bit a part of the wrecking of the GOP, and frankly very few want to put up with that attitude, just as very few want to put up with the attitude of La Raza.
BTW......I am pro fence, pro sealing the borders.
Sir, I realize you're in the middle of a rather steamy debate with justupandtakeit over whether or not current conservative Sheehan tactics are playing into the hands of the Democrats and probably missed it, so here's a link to my post post prime rib #3135, in response to your #3085 to me. Link opens in new window so you don't lose track of this incredibly fast paced thread, which is something I can do easily...and have at times.
Exactly. I'll see that and raise it a "and some of them are doing it knowingly and with malice aforethought".
Unfortunately there is a vocal minority that seems to lead many honest patriots by the nose and they are the ones who I think are a bit crazy.
I can see from the wording that what you say is correct.
In the last statement of that post I did mean both individuals and local politicians, not so much state and national.
There may be a very few out there on the state and national level but I'm not conversant enough with any but my own state to be able to tell you. And I can't think of any Dems from my state on those levels that I could point to.
Actually it is not Amnesty at all because they have to pay a fine for disobeying the law. It is Guest Worker Registration.
Pray for W and Our Troops
Exactly. The vocal minority leading many honest patriots by the nose is doing it with malice aforethough. It's simple psychology: we're all sheep when we let emotion rule reason.
You can call out those Walk on Water "Conservatives" by making them make Pro-Life statements. Better yet force them to agree with the War. It exposes them pretty well.
Pray for W and Our Troops
Full amnesty and automatic citizenship is what the traitorcrats want.
You have to change the definition of Amnesty to call it Amnesty, which most the Borderliners have no problem with. Basically the same thing Libs do all day. That and their "concern" over Illegals not having a living wage???
Pray for W and Our Troops
I don't believe it matters. In their minds, anything short of shelling out hundreds of billions to round them all all and kick them all out permanently amounts to amnesty.
You don't frighten me at all...
If you do I hope you will also take some time to encourage at least two friends to do the same. Thanks:
Mr. President,
I trust that this communication finds you and the First Lady well.
I’d like to congratulation you on the fine speech you delivered the other evening. As I listened to your words, I could not help but compare their sincerity with the increasingly shrill rhetoric of those who have continually attacked you since taking office.
I know you are a man of conviction, a man who follows his principles and not polls; in short, a statesman, and not a politician. I am thankful for that in my daily prayers.
Least your staff become disheartened by the increasing volume and direction of the attacks, I would remind them that “we” elected you to lead us in this time of great peril. When I say “we”, I mean the common everyday Americans who simply go about our daily lives without becoming swept up by surreptitious political agenda or fear of our government. No matter how imperfect our current elected government is, it is “we” who chose it.
We did not elect the journalists who manufacture news and polls to suit their political agenda. Nor did we elect the single issue advocates or talk show hosts who market conservative values for profit. Although they each claim to know the secret to make our government perfect, they do not have the courage of their convictions to run for office and affect change. Instead they attempt to circumvent “our” will and the election process through demands, threats, cajoling, creating dissent and claiming to speak for “us”.
These people do not represent your base, any more then they represent “we” the people.
Stand firm and proud, you are doing a fine job.
God Bless.
And I don't know who Mad Mo is... is that your idea for a children's show?
Yes, it is absolutely a Beautiful letter and I send one or two a month encouraging him and letting him know people agree with him. Thank you
Pray for W and Our Troops
If you're ignorant of all the White House talking points over the past year regarding Meirs, Ports Deal or Immigration where they resort to PC baiting to defend critics then you are dumber than I thought. But since you're obviously not dumb then you must be disingenuous.
I've seen you drag folks around in circles here by denying everything regardless.
So, just a simple question:
Do you support Hagel-Martinez or Bush's Quasi-Amnesty?
Yes or No will do.
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