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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: The_Victor

We've participated in other threads, probably you just didn't see it.


1,901 posted on 05/17/2006 3:18:14 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: CWOJackson
ROTF
1,902 posted on 05/17/2006 3:18:21 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Vicomte13
If the Republicans lose one of the Houses of Congress, not that I believe that will happen, there goes the funding for the Iraq/WOT program.
Do you think Dubya is willing to risk that?
1,903 posted on 05/17/2006 3:18:47 PM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: ohioWfan

yw.


1,904 posted on 05/17/2006 3:20:08 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: gondramB

When there were stats, it was something like 30,000 posts per day, and 400-500 threads. Not including the newbie list, about 100 per day. Then there's the classic, 'hey mod, are you sleeping? Didn't you see this post #1267?' abuse report.


1,905 posted on 05/17/2006 3:20:54 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Individual Rights in NJ

"Of course you must realize though. I can't do much two ways about it. The only vote I have that counts is in Presidential elections, because I am from New Jersey. My congressmen is a republican , Mike Ferguson"

You got it better than I do!

I live in Connecticut.
My Congressman is liberal Republican Christopher Shays.
I have Dodd and Lieberman for Senators (Lieberman is at least right on the war).
For me to vote Republican requires me to vote for high tax, pro-choice liberals...it requires me to violate my pro-life principles just to cast a caucus vote.

It's very hard to do, but I do it so that the Republican caucus, in general, can move the ball forward.

However, with the Miers fiasco, my mind was set: if the Republicans with the majority I give them (voting for a candidate who violates my principles) won't use their CAUCUS to give me certain pro-life votes on the Supreme Court, then there's no reason for me to vote at all. Chris Shays is not distinguishable from a Democrat. His only usefulness is as a caucus vote which helps determine who the Speaker is. That's it. That's all.

I understand the BorderBots here.
There where I was about Miers. If the national party itself won't use its majority to do something necessary on a non-negotiable moral issue, there is no point voting for them at all.

Had Miers prevailed, I would have stayed home.
She didn't, so I'm grimly voting for Shays, even though he doesn't deserve it.

But if my issue was the border, and not abortion, I'd stay home.

We've got to stop pushing people into the stops here.
Just give the BorderBots their sea-to-sea fence and we all live.


1,906 posted on 05/17/2006 3:21:06 PM PDT by Vicomte13 (Aure entuluva!)
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To: Pukin Dog

"President Bush signed a $70 billion tax-cut package Wednesday..."


1,907 posted on 05/17/2006 3:21:36 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: evets

Wellll, Scripture indicates God will not forgive those who take THE FOR REAL FINAL ACTUAL MARK OF THE BEAST. Yet without it, no one will be able to buy or sell.

It's exciting and sobering to be in the era that sees so many such prophecies come to pass before our eyes in the daily news.

Thankfully, God is God and always will be God and has it all under His control.

But we will be held accountable for standing up for those values God cherishes . . . for loving what He loves and hating what He hates. Thankfully, that's pretty easy on FR. But we need to do more of it better out in the world where the real rubber meets the real road.


1,908 posted on 05/17/2006 3:21:37 PM PDT by Quix ( PREPARE . . . PRAY . . . PLACE your trust, hope, faith and life in God's hands moment by moment)
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To: The_Victor

While I can appreciate your position, the vocal "leadership" of the democrat party is (1) LYING about the President; (2) LYING about the NSA and its programs of surveillance of terrorist; (3) Celebrating the leaking of classified information by the CIA to MSM reporters; (4) Putting partisan politics ahead of national security and the well-being of our troops.

I'm not calling for them to be prosecuted in military tribunals for treason and then executed, but several of the so-called leaders in the democrat party have identified themselves as the enemy at this point when they ally themselves with Saddam Hussein and the Iranian lunatic president.


1,909 posted on 05/17/2006 3:21:58 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: Pukin Dog
Thank you Pukin Dog. Well said, Bravo!!


1,910 posted on 05/17/2006 3:22:12 PM PDT by baseballmom
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To: CWOJackson
They have logistical support bases right here in the US, as well as Mexico and other Central and South American countries.

The reason for the southern focus is the 2 million plus folks that sneak in undetected, which is far less then the few thousand that sneak in undetected up north. The biggest hole gets the most attention.

Couple that with the fact that plain old illegal aliens kill more Americans then terrorists and put a much greater economic burden on our country then terrorism does, and you have a very good reason to focus on the southern border.

But, yes, I agree, we can not lose sight of the other 3 borders will trying to contain the southern border.

1,911 posted on 05/17/2006 3:22:44 PM PDT by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
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1,912 posted on 05/17/2006 3:23:10 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God Bless Our Troops...including U.S. Border Patrol, America's First Line of Defense)
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To: CWOJackson
"President Bush signed a $70 billion tax-cut package Wednesday..."

Just another juicy bite of steak, baby!

1,913 posted on 05/17/2006 3:23:12 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: CWOJackson
"President Bush signed a $70 billion tax-cut package Wednesday..."

Facts don't matter. /sarc

1,914 posted on 05/17/2006 3:23:35 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: onyx; Pukin Dog
I'm a native San Diegan.

The LA Times article specifically mentioned the Dem primary between Filner vs Vargas in the 51st district. Filner is considered part of the Waxman-Berman Jewish-Black Dem machine. The new Latino activists have broken with that alliance, as evidenced by Villaraigosa's win in LA.

The old Chinese proverb certainly rings true; conservatives generally think they are the big losers from amnesty, but the Jewish-Black block have just as much to lose to the new Latino majority.

1,915 posted on 05/17/2006 3:23:44 PM PDT by lemura
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To: prairiebreeze

For sure I'd like to see the Palistinian aid go immediately to $0.00.

My ASSUMPTION is that the puppet masters are demanding certain . . . actions . . . in order to allow . . . certain folks continued . . . breathing habits. The puppet masters have been out for Israel's demise for several centuries as I understand it. Certainly for all of our era.

I agree, basically about foreign aid. But the thing with Mexico is more than suicidal and outrageous.


1,916 posted on 05/17/2006 3:23:57 PM PDT by Quix ( PREPARE . . . PRAY . . . PLACE your trust, hope, faith and life in God's hands moment by moment)
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To: lemura
So it's not just conservatives who will lose out under amnesty; our counterparts on the left will be shoved out of their own party as well.

That's the dirty little secret. Despite the fact that one out of every three Dem votes is black or hispanic, the Dem party is run by a thin veneer of white liberals. Once the black and hispanic voters start clamoring for more authority and control of the party, including more candidates for state-wide and national elections, the white liberals will be forced from power with nowhere to go. I remember what happened to nine termer incumbent Stephen Solarz (D,NY) when the compostion of his district changed to mostly Puerto Rican voters. He lost in the primaries to Nydia Velazquez. She's still there.

1,917 posted on 05/17/2006 3:24:23 PM PDT by kabar
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To: lemura

Both parties on the westside are multi-culti dominated... big time.


1,918 posted on 05/17/2006 3:25:23 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God Bless Our Troops...including U.S. Border Patrol, America's First Line of Defense)
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To: AntiGuv
No one that I've seen has assumed your inane, ridiculous straw man that "every single immigrant" to this nation would vote for Democrats. What I've assumed is that new Latino citizens will continue voting much the same way as new Latino citizens vote now, which is upward of 80% in favor of Democrats.

Uh...put down the bong and back away slowly.

President Bush only won by a few million popular votes and it went from Florida to Ohio to decide the outcome.

For example, if 80% of the new Hispanic voters are Ohioans, we're in deep doo-doo.

1,919 posted on 05/17/2006 3:25:43 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: lemura

I'm ALL for getting rid of Filner. I recall him from his student days and he was a radical Leftie back then too.


1,920 posted on 05/17/2006 3:26:11 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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