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Sources: Bush Plans National Guard on Border..
Drudge Report ^ | May 12, 2006 | Matt Drudge

Posted on 05/12/2006 9:18:12 AM PDT by xjcsa

Headline only so far...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderenforcement; borderlist; bordersecurity; bush; howlermonkeys; morebushbashing; nationalguard
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To: blasater1960

Well I'm not familiar with what's going on in WA but I am aware of what's happening down here.


361 posted on 05/12/2006 12:30:59 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Junior_G; VictoryGal
Good. I'm glad I'm not the only one having problems.

Is it better now? Just got back....

362 posted on 05/12/2006 12:31:51 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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To: kellynla
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well I learned from my Irish father, the last four letters of American spell "I can" and there's absolutely no reason why we can't secure the borders and give America back to Americans!

Hey! I like that!


"Give America Back To Americans!"<<

I married into a family of immigrants from Europe - Latvians sponsored by Southern Baptists who did everything right - They appreciate this country and have optimism we should all be so lucky as to share. I bet your father was a helluva American.
363 posted on 05/12/2006 12:32:07 PM PDT by gondramB (He who angers you, in part, controls you. But he may not enjoy what the rest of you does about it.)
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To: kellynla
So no Italians should be allowed into the country because of the Mafia? How is that different?

Crime by illegal aliens is a problem, so is crime from US citizens. Would you feel better if your friend had been robbed by POS citizens?
364 posted on 05/12/2006 12:32:25 PM PDT by Fry
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To: kellynla
I don't have time to explain this right now, but that sounds like another faulty economic anaylsis of illegal immigrants. You have to look at the entire US economy, all workers and business people and all taxes and benefits received by everyone under two cases: 1) with illegal immigrants, 2) without illegal immigrants. Then you look at the net change to the entire economy and tax revenues. I think with this kind of economically correct analysis, illegal immigrants generate about as much (or more) tax revenue in the entire US economy as they receive in benefits and educational costs.

Now, I will don my flame-proof jacket, but that is basically the truth on the economic issue. But there are other reasons, namely crime and national security, for why we need to essentially seal the borders ASAP.

365 posted on 05/12/2006 12:32:40 PM PDT by defenderSD (¤¤ Wishing, hoping, and praying that Saddam will not nuke us is not a national security policy.)
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To: samadams2000

Wow. You really despise our Commander in Chief, don't you?


366 posted on 05/12/2006 12:32:54 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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To: xjcsa

Please! This is nothing but window dressing. Does he think we're fools (of course he does!)?

As soon as Bush gets his amnesty bill passed, the National Guard will be recalled and it will be back to the status quo.


367 posted on 05/12/2006 12:33:07 PM PDT by He'sComingBack!
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To: MineralMan

If a 'certain poster' doesn't like what others post, that 'certain poster' can "...pound sand."
After all, that's what a 'certain poster' posted to me in January.


368 posted on 05/12/2006 12:33:48 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: ol painless

well there will obviously have to be gates along the border which when the wall is finished we can escort them through...no problemo! LOL


369 posted on 05/12/2006 12:34:04 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: ohioWfan

No just very disappointed and fearful we've lost this country. You dont live in the Bay Area of California do you?


370 posted on 05/12/2006 12:34:09 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Somebody important make The Call.....pitchforks and lanterns.!)
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To: xjcsa

Sheriff Arpaio on Fox today came out against the troops on our borders idea. He stated that the BP and local LEO can do the job, implying: IF ALLOWED TO.


371 posted on 05/12/2006 12:34:25 PM PDT by tertiary01 ( And don't waste your snide remarks on me: history will be your judge.)
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To: xjcsa

First, let's make sure that they will COOPERATE with the Minutemen that are on the border to observe and report how our government is performing its sworn duty - and that we never again hear these patriots referred to as "vigilantes" by any federal official at any level, ALL THE WAY TO THE VERY TOP!

Second, the President should award the Medal Of Freedom to the founders of this organization, for their service in reminding elected officials that they are servants of the people, NOT masters.

Third, end "catch and release". Catch the invaders at the border, get fingerprints and a picture, and send them back immediately, with a warning that if they are ever seen in the US again without valid documentation they will do hard time.

Fourth, It is time to take the employment eligibility verification process out of the hands of potential employers. Every employer has a telephone, and almost every one also has - or can obtain - a computer, a fax, and internet access. In fact, even a new cell phone with picture capability would work. The employer should transmit the name, sex, D.O.B., age, SSN, picture, and images of all identification documents presented to the INS (or other clearing house) along with the employer ID and password.

The SSN would be checked for validity and matched against current employment (tax withholding) records for duplication/ID theft and plausibility, and either approve, disapprove (due to a bad SSN, name/number mismatch, or other obvious conflict), or issue a caution due to a conflict such as current employment elsewhere. Anything indicating a possible ID theft would trigger a warning to the legitimate holder of the name or number.

The job-seeker could clear the caution by visiting an INS office for investigation or waiting for the discrepancy to resolve itself. Of course, if you find out that someone else has stolen your number and ID, you would go to the police to resolve the problem.

Note that this data is already collected quarterly, so this is not the imposition of a new "big-brother" system on all of us. The update frequency would need to be increased, to monthly or bi-weekly, and yes, some additional personnel and databases would be needed, but it would remove the primary lure to illegal aliens sneaking into our Country.


372 posted on 05/12/2006 12:35:29 PM PDT by MainFrame65
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To: clawrence3; nmh
We have expelled over 6 million since bush took office - I realize that's not enough for you, but I am just answering your question.

Wrong. We've expelled 720,000 of them. The other 5.3 million left voluntarily. Shows we don't need to officially deport the 12-20 million that are still here to get most of them to leave. And, since new (or return) illegals are arriving here in droves everyday, so what?

373 posted on 05/12/2006 12:35:36 PM PDT by teawithmisswilliams (Question Diversity)
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To: samadams2000
No. But I know people in SoCal who don't hate the President because of what the illegal aliens have done.

(And my daughter is in San Diego).

374 posted on 05/12/2006 12:36:06 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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To: blaquebyrd

Also, for any of the usual suspects whining about immigration on this thread, a 250 person posse of sheriffs in Arizona only captured ONE immigrant last night.

http://www.kvoa.com/Global/story.asp?S=4892431


375 posted on 05/12/2006 12:37:36 PM PDT by Peach
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To: samadams2000
btw, are you willing to join with those of us who respect the President deeply to help solve this problem?

Or are you one of the 'bushbots are all stupid' folks, who turns away people who want to help, just because they don't have a disdain for the President like you do?

376 posted on 05/12/2006 12:38:28 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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To: Roccus; MineralMan

Posted to me - S/B - posted about me.


377 posted on 05/12/2006 12:38:32 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: He'sComingBack!
Another "Bush is a LIAR!" 'conservative.'

Gee........where have I heard THAT accusation before?

378 posted on 05/12/2006 12:41:02 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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To: gondramB

funny story, timely and ironic, my father was in the Army National Guard under "Black Jack" Pershing in 1916 when they were chasing Poncho Villa below the border.


379 posted on 05/12/2006 12:41:49 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Peach
That's great news. It means that the illegals have gotten the word not to hang out in Maricopa county. If we had a Sheriff like Arpaio in every county of the country the illegals would self deport. Great news, proves once again that enforcing the law works every time. Thanks for the link.
380 posted on 05/12/2006 12:45:01 PM PDT by blaquebyrd (Allegiance to country before party)
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