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Moussaoui Asks to Withdraw Guilty Plea
LATimes ^ | 5/8/06 | AP

Posted on 05/08/2006 12:49:56 PM PDT by Lunatic Fringe

Edited on 05/08/2006 1:27:39 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Convicted Sept. 11 conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui says he lied on the witness stand about being involved in the plot and wants to withdraw his guilty plea because he now believes he can get a fair trial.

In a motion filed Friday but released today, Moussaoui said he testified March 27 he was supposed to hijack a fifth plane on Sept. 11, 2001, and fly it into the White House "even though I knew that was a complete fabrication."


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TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: 911; buttbrain; guilty; jihadinamerica; justkidding; mooseowwie; moussaoui; rot; solitaryidiot; supermax; terrorist; terrortrials; toobad; toolate; whenpigsfly; yougottabekidding
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Who?


181 posted on 05/08/2006 2:23:56 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Why is he whining?

Isn't Osama supposed to establish the worldwide caliphate in about 5 years or so and destroy the *evil* American empire? Certainly Osama will set him free then, right? He just has to be patient.

Or maybe now he doesn't have as much faith in his cause? It's probably a little too late for him to plan a career change now, dontchathink?
182 posted on 05/08/2006 2:29:35 PM PDT by burzum (A single reprimand does more for a man of intelligence than a hundred lashes for a fool.--Prov 17:10)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

enough money already spent on this POS


183 posted on 05/08/2006 2:29:57 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." LINCOLN)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Does anyone think he'll get a "fair" trial?


184 posted on 05/08/2006 2:34:08 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (Ask not what the government can do for you. Ask why it doesn't.)
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To: newcthem
"He will probably hope so after a few sessions with "Bubba""

Unless "Bubba" is a guard, Zak is unlikely to meet him, he's doing life in solitary.

185 posted on 05/08/2006 2:34:12 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: AbeKrieger
I guess three days in the old coffin gave him a good idea what his life would be like going forward. PERFECTO !!!!!

LOL, that was my first reaction. I had to call my husband at work to let him know that it didn't even take a week before this guy realized that "super-max" isn't Gitmo. So much for, "America, you lose". What a putz.

186 posted on 05/08/2006 2:35:33 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: ncountylee
Just release him in Battery Park after announcing the time and date. Oh, also pull all police back about 20 blocks.

Why pull the NYPD back about 20 blocks? I'm sure they'd like in on the action.

187 posted on 05/08/2006 2:36:05 PM PDT by steveegg (Sen. Ted "Swimmer" Kennedy's vehicles have killed more people than V.P. Dick Cheney's guns)
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To: Marine_Uncle

are you crazy? Have you seen the pics of cells from this prison? Just damn! I could not take a day in that cell. clean and nice as it is! He will NEVER GET OUT!
I love it. I hope he sits there for decades! Rotting from the inside out. everyday having to beg to be let out to breath just a little fresh air. Astronauts on their way to Mars will have more room to move around than he does.
This will be no life of leisure and I am glad.


188 posted on 05/08/2006 2:37:05 PM PDT by SSR1
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To: Blackirish
" This is solitary confinement in a soundproofed cell in the highest security prison in human history."
So what you are saying is oceanview incorrectly stated that he will have a boob tube in his cell and free access to religious input such as a visiting iman?
I didn't post the comments, I simply responded. But I most certainly hope your statements are correct.
189 posted on 05/08/2006 2:38:52 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Blackirish

And he's only, like, 35 or 36 isn't he? You pretty much know he'll have a balanced diet and the best of health care, so we should be able to keep him alive for another 50 or 60 years. That's a lot of educational TV that he's not going to be able to talk to anyone about or use in any productive way.


190 posted on 05/08/2006 2:40:59 PM PDT by ark_girl
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To: SSR1
"are you crazy?"
Why don't you re-read my response to what oceanview quoted. Then see if I am crazy.
191 posted on 05/08/2006 2:41:19 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: ktvaughn
I work with liberals and I haven't heard anybody trying to hand-wring this nutjob.

Just wait a little while, until after the media has spent countless broadcast hours and column-inches of print weeping over this guy and sharing the details of life in a Supermax facility and proclaiming it as "torture."

192 posted on 05/08/2006 2:43:08 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Hang tight, the Hollyweirds, Stone, Fats Moore, etc., will have this guy doing his own program from his cell before it is over. Redford, Blab-bra, etc. will be fighting to represent him and be seen with him.
193 posted on 05/08/2006 2:44:46 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (Politicians and the U.S. Government are liars, cheats and thieves, in it for their own gain.)
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To: Marine_Uncle
So what you are saying is oceanview incorrectly stated that he will have a boob tube in his cell and free access to religious input such as a visiting iman?

My understanding is that he gets no visitors except his lawyer. My husband's question today, when he heard about his reversal was, so how come we've heard about this, I didn't think anyone got to see him? I can only think that a lawyer got this out, or perhaps one of the guards who, like us, find an amusing aspect to this.

I believe his meals come through a slot in the door. He never gets to interact with any of the other prisoners, so no reliving the good times with the other jihadists at this place; and, he gets a shower once a week.

194 posted on 05/08/2006 2:47:43 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: LibertarianLiz

Well I hope this is the case. Perhaps I should have questioned Oceanview as where he got the idea this goon would have a 8" boog tube in the cell.


195 posted on 05/08/2006 2:53:15 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: TomGuy
Thanks, TomGuy. I will definitely be watching this tonight.

As far a Moussy's "appeal" efforts...it ain't gonna happen. Here's a quote from the judge:

At sentencing, she told Moussaoui: "You do not have a right to appeal your convictions, as was explained to you when you plead guilty" in April 2005. "You waived that right."

I suppose he doesn't think his "win" was a "win" after all, eh?

196 posted on 05/08/2006 2:56:52 PM PDT by Recovering Hermit (A hermit is a deserter from the army of humanity.)
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To: LibertarianLiz

There's nothing to stop Moussaoui's lawyers from going directly to the media, unless the judge imposes a gag order, which I doubt she could legally do even if she were so inclined. Moussaoui knows this.

He got exactly what he wanted - a chance to spend the next 40 or 50 years exposing our criminal justice system for the joke it is, unless he wears us down with his antics so we just release him first.


197 posted on 05/08/2006 3:00:54 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC
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To: TexasCajun
Keith Garner, a prisoner confined at the prison, bluntly told a judge that the conditions at the prison were "like being in a tomb."

That's right, and it's why life in the Florence Supermax is better for Moussouai than the death penalty.

At ADX Florence, the bed, sink, and toilet are made from poured concrete, just like the floors, ceiling, and walls. There's a window that faces the sky, so that prisoners can't get a fix on their location inside the prison. Toilets are designed to prevent deliberate flooding.

No books, no magazines, no roomies. Meals are shoved through a porthole. You can get a plexi-enclosed, 13" B&W TV if you are good in your tomb. Walls and plumbinmg are insulated to prevent covert communication between cells.

You also get one-hour a day for exercise, but it's in another cage inside the building, not outside in the fresh Colorado air.

Basically, Supermax "guests" are lopped-off from human society, just as they should be.

And despite the large number of notorious jihadis at Florence (see post #112), they are each living alone in a state of isolation from the human race, unable to communicate with the world. I would imagine they're not even told in which direction Mecca is located, in order to prevent security breaches.

198 posted on 05/08/2006 3:00:58 PM PDT by angkor
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To: princess leah

All excellent ideas. I'd add nonstop pig-squeal recordings in his cell.


199 posted on 05/08/2006 3:06:02 PM PDT by American Quilter
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To: Marine_Uncle
According to wikipedia, he gets a TV, but it will be all educational TV all the time.

Wikipedia Article
200 posted on 05/08/2006 3:13:56 PM PDT by ark_girl
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