Jury has verdict in Moussaoui case! UPDATE: Sentenced to Life in Prison

[BladeLWS]

Just flashed on Fox, jury has a verdict, to be read at 4:30PM EST!

[Wolfstar]

He's a real billy bad-ass now, he won't be in a few months.

On a personal level, the problem for me is that I draw zero comfort or assurance from those who tell me how tough it's going to be for him. All the talking heads on TV this morning were almost pleading with their viewers to believe Moussaoui will "rot" in prison. Almost all of those talking heads are Leftists who do not support the death penalty, who do support enemies of this country, and who would back any Jimmy Carter-type president who would turn Moussaoui over to the French government.

I take no comfort from all the assurances whatsoever, because I don't believe them.

[ScreamingFist]

On a personal level, the problem for me is that I draw zero comfort or assurance from those who tell me how tough it's going to be for him.

I understand. I can only say that he will be in segregation...forever. He will have a routine, 23 hours in a cell and 1 hour of exercise, alone. If he tries to break this routine, there are consequences....a pair of shirt and pants, a TV and reading material are a privilege, not a requirement. If he will not eat.....he will be taken to medical and be fed, in a segregation cell. This will be his existence. The CO's get to go home, the inmates in these facilities do not.....they will push every button, try every break of the rules, try killing themselves and in the end.....will be doing the same routine without a chance of release, forever. This is why I say....worse than death.

[Wolfstar]

This is why I say....worse than death.

It's not about him and what is or isn't worse for him. It's about us and our safety. The only safe terrorist is a dead terrorist.

[American Quilter]

So let no one console themselves that this man will be frustrated, bored, confined, and restricted for the rest of his life. He will, in all probability, become an icon.

I hope there are many others who understand this as clearly as you do.

[pleikumud]

They have plenty of others. Here's the core of The Enemy Within, senators who voted against Rice's nomination for Secretary of State and against Roberts for Supreme Court:

Voted Against Rice
Akaka (D-HI)
Bayh (D-IN)
Boxer (D-CA)
Byrd (D-WV)
Dayton (D-MN) Durbin (D-IL)
Harkin (D-IA)
Jeffords (I-VT)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA) Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Levin (D-MI)
Reed (D-RI)

Voted Against Roberts

Akaka (D-HI)
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Boxer (D-CA)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Clinton (D-NY)
Corzine (D-NJ)
Dayton (D-MN) Durbin (D-IL)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Mikulski (D-MD) Obama (D-IL)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Schumer (D-NY)
Stabenow (D-MI)

[gotribe]

They won't perceive this decision as mercy or justice, but weakness.

It IS weak. Your nation is weak, my nation is weak.

[george76]

This is what Moussaoui did:

He was in jail on a visa violation in August 2001. He knew of the upcoming attacks.

In fact, he had taken flight lessons to take part in them. He told no one what was coming.

He lied to the FBI so the attacks could go forward.

He pled guilty last year to conspiring with al Qaeda; at his trial he bragged to the court that he had intended to be on the fifth aircraft, which was supposed to destroy the White House.

He knew the trigger was about to be pulled. He knew innocent people had been targeted, and were about to meet gruesome, unjust deaths.

He could have stopped it. He did nothing.

And so 2,700 people died.

.....Peggy Noonan

[RushCrush]

Does anyone on this thread know if inmates at the Supermax facility can get regular mail, and can they have visitors?

Why is no one asking these questions?

[newfarm4000n]

Does anyone on this thread know if inmates at the Supermax facility can get regular mail, and can they have visitors?

No and No. The only outside visitors are government law enforcement employees (if needed) and official visitors for checking on prisoner's complaints ( in all federal prisons). But of course a court order can change all that.

[BigSkyFreeper]

in addition i wouldlike to say that keeping him alive makes him a kind of martyr as well to our enemy. He is, after all, being unjustly incarcerated by the eveil satan that is the USA. Plus you have the types that will forever demand his release thru hostage taking or other threats.

Three words: Boo Freakin' Hoo.

[BigSkyFreeper]

He is no martyr.

Never said he was or will be.

[newfarm4000n]

Disregard last post. bad source.


-- Inmates at Supermax are allowed telephone calls and visitors if they don't act up, though most communications at the nation's most secure federal prison are monitored. Inmates get one hour out of their cells each day to eat or play basketball or handball, though some earn longer recreation periods through good behavior. They can take academic courses via closed-circuit television in each cell. Religious services are conducted in a small chapel.

[Rapscallion]

Some will call the decision humane.

The Massaoui decision is an act of moral cowardice.

[Cinnamon]

you hit the nail on the head. I lot of people don't get this. Freedom is far more precious. this punk will have the rest of his life to go nuttier.. He will live by our rules. We will tell him when he can shit, piss, or sleep

[maxwellp]

O.K. - now it makes sense. Thank you for your explanation!

[Jim Noble]

The Massaoui decision is an act of moral cowardice.

The decision to try him in a US Civil Court was an act of moral cowardice.

[galileo3000]

I thought the Judge's response to Moussaui's final comment showed a wisdom afforded through our legal system. He's nuts and probably dangerous but it does appear that he had a suicide wish and I for one am grateful that we have not created a martyr.