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George Allen: Rebel flag was teen 'attitude.' Magazine reports on rebel symbols he had in school
Richmond Times-Dispatch ^ | 4/30/6 | Peter Hardin and Tyler Whitley

Posted on 04/30/2006 7:41:33 PM PDT by Crackingham

Sen. George Allen, who has tried to reach out to minority voters in recent years, wore a Confederate flag pin on his shirt collar in a high-school yearbook photo, a national magazine reported yesterday. As a high school student in Palos Verdes, Calif., Allen was seen riding in or driving a Ford Mustang with either a Confederate flag license plate or Confederate flag imagery on the car, The New Republic quoted witnesses as saying.

The Virginia Republican, seeking re-election now and weighing a presidential bid in 2008, was to depart today to co-host a civil-rights history tour for members of Congress to Southside Virginia. The topic is to be progress toward racial reconciliation. Allen staff confirmed that the pin in his yearbook picture depicted a Confederate flag. An Allen aide told the magazine the senator didn't remember a Confederate flag on his Mustang but that it was possible.

As a high school student in California, "I generally bucked authority and the rebel flag was just a way to express that attitude," Allen said in a written statement to the magazine. "Life is a learning experience and I have learned quite a bit in the ensuing 36 years."

He went on to discuss his belief in equal opportunity, his learning from participating in a civil-rights history tour to Alabama several years ago and his proposed Senate legislation to aid minority colleges.

Harris Miller, one of two Democrats seeking the nomination to run against Allen, said yesterday that he found Allen's explanation "pretty disingenuous" considering that while he held state office, he had "a troubling record on minority issues."

Miller cited Allen's issuance while governor of a "highly divisive" Confederate history and heritage month proclamation and his vote, while a member of the House of Delegates, against a Martin Luther King Jr. holiday.

"We need leaders who will celebrate all that we have in common rather than things that divide us," Miller said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
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To: usmcobra
My advise to Allen is that everytime the Confederate flag issue comes up, he should point out how it is a symbol the democrats used during their high of power in the south to control who voted how in the south.

Why that would mean a republican growing a spine! Seeing Allens lame response, thats not gonna ever happen!

81 posted on 05/01/2006 6:11:14 AM PDT by Bommer
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To: usmcobra
When anyone tells you that the confederate flag consists of the flags of St. Andrew and St. Patrick joined as one they are ignorant of the truth The southern cross is a corruption of religious symbols, inverted to do the devil's work.

Some folks go out of their way to overspiritualize things.

82 posted on 05/01/2006 6:47:53 AM PDT by P8riot
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To: wardaddy

I'm so sick of this cr-p. According to contemporary liberal "logic," attending Ole Miss game in the 1980s is identical to being a participant in the Nuremberg rally.


83 posted on 05/01/2006 6:57:01 AM PDT by bourbon (he who marries the spirt if the age will soon be a widower.)
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To: Bommer
Why that would mean a republican growing a spine! Seeing Allens lame response, thats not gonna ever happen!


84 posted on 05/01/2006 7:10:52 AM PDT by onyx (MARY MC CHRISTMAS everybody! --- FACTS DON'T MATTER.)
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To: unfortunately a bluestater
To me, the next most controversial part of the article revolves around a book that his younger sister has written about the family. Without going into detail, she wrote some pretty uncomplimentary things about Allen.

The things his sister said might be untrue or exaggerated...but if they are true, Allen is a sociopath who does not belong in any public office. Unfortunately, those are just the types of people who are drawn to seek political office, and DC already has an overabundance of them.

85 posted on 05/01/2006 7:15:50 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: usmcobra

You live in Bizzaro NeoCon world.


86 posted on 05/01/2006 7:16:01 AM PDT by stainlessbanner (Free Travis!)
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To: Crackingham
This is America with freedoms of speech, etc.

The guy can wear any kind of pin he wants.

Anyone criticizing him is guilty of slander or libel.
87 posted on 05/01/2006 7:18:12 AM PDT by Supernatural (I used to care but things have changed.)
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To: wardaddy
I changed my Bonnie Blue for the Stars and Bars recently on my truck

New truck, new look, same ol legend.

88 posted on 05/01/2006 7:20:25 AM PDT by stainlessbanner (Free Travis!)
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To: stainlessbanner

And you my friend are afraid to lay the blame for dishonoring the memory of the confederates soldiers that died in the civil war where it belongs....

On the Democrats.

Why can't you do that one thing?

If you are going to defend that flag at the very least you should be able to point the finger at the democrats and say this is all your fault. That you can't reeks of cowardise.


89 posted on 05/01/2006 7:22:36 AM PDT by usmcobra (Those that are incited to violence by the sight of OUR flag are the enemies of this nation.)
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To: Bommer; usmcobra; bourbon; stainlessbanner; stand watie
You guys ever look at the 1964 electoral map? There are holes in this Jim Crow/Democrats/Flag unity folks always toss about here. And to compare Radical Republicans of Reconstruction with today's GOP is too farfetched. With all their draconian social engineering relative to that time, they are more like the Pelosis and Schumers of today.

Historical comparables like that are just too flawed. And the latter Dems of the New Deal era who did have strong attachments down South (execpt for their Marxist sub-groups) had pretty broad appeal nationwide. Which speaking of....so did the Democrats in 1860. Lincoln did not win with a majority (39%). The Democrats were not just Southern then. Anyhow....look at Goldwater versus LBJ (southerner) in 1964. So, Who's the Democrats in that one?

Anyone today who allies with South bashers over this flag is allying with the Left or RINOs. It's that simple....unlike controversial history which is a bit more complicated.

90 posted on 05/01/2006 8:16:58 AM PDT by wardaddy (MALDEF and LULAC have infested this forum....as if RINOS weren't bad enough)
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To: bourbon

It reflects a built in bias against the South....for whatever reasons.....some personal.

Some brainwashed.

That mindset is why today we have however million illegals and their "latino brethren" marching to demand their privilege.

Were that not more or less ethnic sacred cows, they would be rounded up and tossed as they should be at some point.

This is a natural progression of our obsession with racial redress.


91 posted on 05/01/2006 8:20:06 AM PDT by wardaddy (MALDEF and LULAC have infested this forum....as if RINOS weren't bad enough)
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To: Gabz

ack.. you have pants older than me? that's alot scarier than a confederate flag.


92 posted on 05/01/2006 8:22:23 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: wardaddy
Anyone today who allies with South bashers over this flag is allying with the Left or RINOs.

NAACP, SPLC, John Kerry, Howard Dean, Kerry's running mate (forgot his name). Strange bedfellows for a conservative.

93 posted on 05/01/2006 8:29:50 AM PDT by stainlessbanner (Free Travis!)
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To: wardaddy
That mindset is why today we have however million illegals and their "latino brethren" marching to demand their privilege.

That mindset is disregard for the Republic, same as in 1861.

94 posted on 05/01/2006 8:31:51 AM PDT by stainlessbanner (Free Travis!)
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To: stainlessbanner

Yep


95 posted on 05/01/2006 8:33:09 AM PDT by wardaddy (MALDEF and LULAC have infested this forum....as if RINOS weren't bad enough)
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To: stainlessbanner

Why is it that you cannot condemn the democrats for dishonoring the flag you hold so dear?

I mean it just makes me scratch my head and wonder what side you are really on.


96 posted on 05/01/2006 8:41:19 AM PDT by usmcobra (Those that are incited to violence by the sight of OUR flag are the enemies of this nation.)
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To: usmcobra

You worry about me too much. Better to worry about which candidate is going to secure the borders in 2008.


97 posted on 05/01/2006 8:44:35 AM PDT by stainlessbanner (Free Travis!)
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To: absolootezer0
ack.. you have pants older than me?

If you were born after 1975, I guess I do!!!!

I really felt for the girl that asked me for ID in the convenience store last night when I bought a pack of cigarettes..........I'm more than old enough to be her mother....and those jeans are WAY older than she is!!!!!

98 posted on 05/01/2006 8:57:01 AM PDT by Gabz (Smokers are the beta version)
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To: okiecon

I beleive they are called rinos and yankees.


99 posted on 05/01/2006 10:05:47 AM PDT by SDGOP
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To: umgud
WOW!!! This is series, almost as series as his neighbor in WV who was once a KKK big wig.

I think maybe I knew him:


100 posted on 05/01/2006 11:12:05 AM PDT by archy (I am General Tso. This is my Chief of Staff, Colonel Sanders....)
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