since Frist's bill is apparently the basis for what is being agreed to, doesn't that mean that Frist will appoint the Senate negotiators for the conference committee? If so, that will be better than a conference between, say, Kennedy and the House.
This is Frist's last chance to redeem something of his standing in the eyes of conservatives- by appointing negotiators who will agree with a lot of what the House voted for.
M A D N E S S
No matter how much they try to avoid the word 'amnesty', this whole thing is still a big floating you-know-what in a punch bowl.
This is a akin to finding a robber in your house , and then proceeding to tell him that he can take anything he wants as long as he says thank you on the way out the door . America is facked ( sic ) .
"broad, bipartisan compromise"
Bureaucrat-speak for spineless mush.
The Senate failed to invoke cloture this morning by a vote of 39-60 on the Specter Amnesty, all but making it go it go away. You are making the difference! Many Senate offices tell us your voices are loud and clear-no amnesty! Since the cloture vote on the Specter Amendment failed, the largest amnesty proposal in American history does not have enough support behind it to pass the Senate.
Now, we face the second wave of amnesty-a late night "compromise" hashed out between Maj. Leader Frist and Sens. Hagel and Martinez.
Majority Leader Frist decided to invoke cloture on this new "compromise" -- one that allows illegal aliens who have been here for at least five years (Illegally) to have amnesty. Those who recently entered the country have only to apply for papers and get legal status, and the requirement they depart the country is full of loopholes, starting with the fact this "mandatory" measure can be waived. Thus, the longer you've broken the law the greater your reward. Does anyone believe that this scenario is any better? With the rampant document fraud encountered each day by employers and USCIS will there be anyone with papers showing they've been here less than five years? We doubt it!
An amnesty is an amnesty!
We have received many reports from you about your calls to the U.S. Senate. We are so appreciative of not only your calls, but for your feedback. Your feedback helps us direct our resources, and yours, in the right direction.
Many of you have stated your disappointment with the responsiveness of the Congressional staff answering your calls. Please treat this interaction with these Senate offices as you would with any company. You deserve to be treated respectfully. When you call, get the staffer's name first. If at anytime you feel you are not treated with the appropriate "customer/constituent service," ask to speak to their supervisor or staff director. You may even call back to the DC office or to their district offices to voice your complaint. These elected officials work for you-remember to hold them accountable.
Please call these Senators to respectfully but assertively tell them to vote against the Hagel/Martinez amnesty (vote to take place at 10:30, Friday, April 7), and to vote against the doubling of legal immigration legislation also in the Hagel/Martinez amendment that will be voted on tomorrow at 10:30 a.m. We need to adopt border security and enforcement only provisions like S. 2377 introduced by Senators Nelson, Coburn and Sessions.
Here's a suggestion of what you can say. . .
"Hi, with whom am I speaking? Thank you for taking my call. I want to urge the Senator to vote against both the Hagel/Martinez amnesty and the Frist legislation tomorrow. The only thing acceptable to the American public is true enforcement like S.2377, the Nelson, Coburn, Sessions bill. I will be tracking the Senator's vote."
Sen. Lott R-MS (202) 224-6253
Sen. Allen R-VA (202) 224-4024
Sen. Allard R-CO (202) 224-5941
Sen. Bond R-MO (202) 224-5721
Sen. Burns R-MT (202) 224-2644
Sen. Chambliss R-GA (202) 224-3521
Sen. Cornyn R-TX (202) 224-2934
Sen. Hatch R-UT (202) 224-5251
Sen. Dorgan D-ND (202) 224-2551
Sen. Kyl R-AZ (202) 224-4521
Sen. Sununu R-NH (202) 224-2841
Sen. Ensign R-NV (202) 224-6244
Sen. Rockefeller D-WV (202) 224-6472
Sen. Stabenow D-MI (202) 224-4822
Sen. Feinstein D-CA (202) 224-3841
Sen. Frist R-TN (202) 224-3344
Sen. Talent R-MO (202) 224-6154
Sen. Thomas R-WY (202) 224-6441
Sen. DeMint R-SC (202) 224-6121
Sen. Burr R-NC (202) 224-3154
Sen. Bennett R-UT (202) 224-5444
Sen. Hutchison R-TX (202) 224-5922
Sen. Snowe R-ME (202) 224-5344
Sen. Enzi R-WY (202) 224-3424
Sen. McConnell R-KY (202) 224-2541
Sen. Murkowski R-AK (202) 224-6665
Sen. Santorum R-PA (202) 224-6324
Sen. Thune R-SD (202) 224-2321
Sen. Bunning R-KY (202) 224-4343
Let's see.. we'll reward law-breakers with citizenship... and we'll give employers workers who don't have rights as citizens.. the middle class is being hit from both sides..
Do you honest think, even if you make these criminals, U.S. citizens, that they will obey the laws like for example buying drivers insurance, or filing/paying income taxes.
The first big recession and the laws will be changed .......fast!!
And they will prove this how?
NO!!! A Thousand Times NO!!!
PLEASE CALL ALL MEMBERS OF THE SENATE BUT PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU CALL FRIST, DOLE, AND BURR.
Talking Points
Each office will tell you that Senator ______ does not support amnesty.
Tell them "Nobody believes you. Nobody is buying this Guest Worker is not amnesty. It is a lie. Stop this bill!"
"How can the US Government tell how long an illegal alien has been in America? That is a ridiculous proposal and does not change the fact this is an amnesty!"
"Current law calls for illegal aliens to be deported. The goal of this bill is to lift that law and that is an amnesty!"
"This bill contains in-state tuition for illegal aliens which is opposed by most Americans. In fact, a recent Fox News poll shows 98% opposition!"
"I'm working with Americans for Legal Immigration. There are thousands of us. Any member of the Senate or Congress that votes for any bill that allows illegal aliens currently in the US to stay will not receive our endorsement and will face our opposition in their next election."
"We will remember in November"
"Vote No on the bill! We want enforcement only. Enforce our existing laws!"
"You were elected to represent me. I'm an American citizen. It is clear that the purpose of this legislation is to represent foreign nationals that have become illegal aliens to satisfy your big contributors!"
"Why is Senator _____ not listening to Americans?" (wait for response then continue) "Any elected official considering supporting a Guest Worker Amnesty is not listening to or representing Americans."
"Guest Worker is an Amnesty. The American public is not stupid."
"I will dedicate my vote, my time, my funds, my life to defeating any candidate that votes for any bill with a Guest Worker Amnesty in it."
"What other laws designed to protect America and Americans do you plan to leave unenforced and remove later?"
"Your office is aware that the Border Patrol is reporting a massive increase in illegal crossings because you are even discussing this legislation?"
THIS BILL MAY PASS THE SENATE, BUT WE CAN STILL STOP IT IN THE HOUSE.
EVEN IF BOTH THE HOUSE AND SENATE PASS GUEST WORKER, THIS LEGISLATION CAN BE REMOVED LATER AND OR USED AS A NEW TOOL TO DEPORT ILLEGAL ALIENS. WE WILL FIGHT THEM EVERY STEP OF THE WAY BUT DO NOT LOSE YOUR MOTIVATION IF THIS PASSES THE SENATE.
When you have the time, check out these videos of the protests and the schools that have taken down the American flag!
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I think the best gesture we can make to demonstrate our displeasure with the Senate bill is to vote en masse for Democrats this fall, and call our GOP reps to tell them we did so to protest their votes against our positions. That way, its crystal clear to them why they lost.
What is totally insane is that nobody knows how many illegals are here. It could be as high as 40 million. They are adding 5 million a year for how many years? No one knows.
Sellout. Total sellout. Apparently the R's think that they're going to get more Hispanic votes than they're going to lose white votes.
Well, this white vote is going to find a REAL conservative party that protects America and American's like the Republicans keep wanting to claim they do.
No more republican votes for me just to keep hillary or kerry out. Dems are liars, cheats and thieves and Reps are spineless, weaselly, cowards. Neither care about whats best for America.
Screw em all and screw em high.
As I post this, the responses to this story are up to 87 and I have read them all. The only thing I can say is that, with several notable exceptions, your comments represent all that is scary and extreme about the so called "far right" in this country.
"I'm going fishing next November" and, "Don't ask me to vote Republican again" are just typical examples. Sure, and once the Democrats retake the House and Senate, paralyze the President in the war on terror, started their impeachment proceedings AND done nothing on the immigration front, I suppose you'll feel smug in the knowledge that boy, did we teach them a lesson.
Your knee jerk stupidity makes me sick.
Screw this, I'm going to Alberta. [/frustration]