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Congress Nears Deal on Illegal Immigrants (breaking on cable networks)
AP/Yahoo News ^ | 4-6-06 | DAVID ESPO

Posted on 04/06/2006 8:33:43 AM PDT by STARWISE

WASHINGTON - In a last stab at compromise, Senate Republicans and Democrats reported progress Thursday toward agreement on legislation opening the way to legal status and eventual citizenship for many of the 11 million immigrants now in the U.S. illegally.

"There's been tremendous progress overnight," said Sen. Harry Reid (news, bio, voting record) of Nevada, the Democratic leader, while Majority Leader Bill Frist also expressed optimism that a long-sought compromise might be at hand.

There was no immediate reaction from President Bush, who has made immigration legislation a key priority.

The developments occurred after Frist unveiled a new bill late Wednesday night on the subject as the Senate headed into a test vote on the most sweeping immigration bill in two decades.

In general, the legislation would provide for enhanced border security, regulate the flow of future immigrants into the United States and settle the legal fate of the estimated 11 million men, women and children already in the country.

It was the fate of the illegal immigrant population that proved hardest to legislate, and it has left the Senate on the verge of gridlock for days.

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Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., as well as other key senators met before the vote to review terms of a proposed compromise.

In general, it would require illegal immigrants who have been in the United States between two years and five years to return to their home country briefly, then re-enter as temporary workers. They could then begin a process of seeking citizenship.

Illegal immigrants here longer than five years would not be required to return home; those in the country less than two years would be required to leave without assurances of returning, and take their place in line with others seeking entry papers.

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KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; amnesty; borderlist; buchananwasright; compromise; congress; guestworker; idiotsonparade; immigration; senatetraitors; soldout; tancredo4president; theswimmer; traitors; trashingamerica; treason
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To: texaslil
You missed the point, I'm afraid. the subject was about social services. The immigrants of Ellis Island (some of my ancestors were) were tested for TB, and other communicable disesase. Many of them were sent back. They had to have a SPONSOR who agreed to care for them if they were unable to. We have TB on the border in spades now, and in the prisons, much of it the drug resistant kind. Oh, and they had to learn English

Actually only 240,000 of the 20,000,000 who passed through Ellis Island were rejected, that's about 0.1%.

BTW, TB was rampant throughtout the country. There is a reason that there were sanitariums until the 1940's.

521 posted on 04/06/2006 10:20:21 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: kenboy
How many businesses would shut down? How many restaurants would go out of business overnight?

As far as I know, restaurants don't have a right to a vast pool of cheap labor.

Too many businesses have this entitlement mentality.

If a few thousand burger joints shut down, that's too bad.

And that goes for construction firms too. No one owes them employees.

522 posted on 04/06/2006 10:20:35 AM PDT by primeval patriot
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
You are having a hard time coming up with a solution.

We've come up with solutions that will result in self-deportation.

- Cut off all social services from non-citizens
- Punish employers of illegals with prison time

523 posted on 04/06/2006 10:20:41 AM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: JeffAtlanta

Yes, because they've been so successful in convincing Rush to change his mind on Immigration for the last couple of years. [sarcasm]


524 posted on 04/06/2006 10:20:53 AM PDT by Soul Seeker ("The Republican Party is now principally moderate, if not liberal!" Arlen Specter (R-Pa))
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To: samcgwire
I voted for President "Better than Kerry" not knowing that he not only wanted to keep flooding America, but that he wanted to fold us into a North American Union. I did not know then that he was a complete sellout and what his aims were. I thought it was just stupid "compassionate" Conservatism, however, I better understand what I'm dealing with now, on many, many fronts.

Oh come on. You expect me to believe that?

That's crap.

I watched all of the presidential debates in 2000 and 2004. I knew then as I know now Bush43 proposed a worker card system. And he has made many a speech about in the past.

For you to tell me you didn't understand it ... well ... makes me think you were acting like a liberal democrat for crying out loud.

I got to admit I feel for a number of you in the USA over this issue.

But in the same breathe I don't see how you can be so strongly slamming this President the way you and others are and telling the world not to vote for the GOP when you and the others voted for him during the last two presidential elections and thus, the worker card system. If this is such a serious issue for you and many others, you should not have voted for him in 2000 and 2004.

525 posted on 04/06/2006 10:20:57 AM PDT by hawkaw
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

Thanks, they're starting to get pretty popular.


526 posted on 04/06/2006 10:21:07 AM PDT by x1stcav (Illegals go home! I'll mow the damned lawn myself!)
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To: MEGoody; sam_paine

If you two aren't fed up with being screwed fine.

Many of us are.

If we clean house now we'll have a stronger party later, if we don't the dirt will just continue to pile up.

I'd rather do the dirty work now and benefit from it later than wait until there's nothing worth saving.


527 posted on 04/06/2006 10:21:23 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: kenboy
Seriously, though: you're talking about some magical way to remove some unknown number of millions of workers from the economy. It would cause restaurants to close their doors. It would raise the prices of goods and services in pretty much every sector. If a given restaurant that employs (let's say) 15 legal and 5 illegal workers has to shut its doors, we've now put 20 people out of work. You've also cost business to the companies that supply the restaurant with food, to its accountant, to its menu printers -- I'm not disagreeing that illegal immigration is a serious problem, but it seems to me like there's a lot of grand pronouncements being made that don't take the time to reflect on the fact that there would be huge ripple effects if we suddenly deported 12 million people.

No one said it would be easy. Ridding a body of a metastasized cancer makes the patient very ill for a while. In fact, it can nearly kill them. But the cancer must be removed or the patient dies.

528 posted on 04/06/2006 10:21:24 AM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas

http://www.wehirealiens.com/


529 posted on 04/06/2006 10:21:33 AM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

bump


530 posted on 04/06/2006 10:21:35 AM PDT by Soaring Feather (Protect Your Neck-- Fly With Dragonfly Airlines & Sparkle ALot Pilots)
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To: Orange1998

Maybe it's not a job for the police at this point, 11 million invaders might be the job of the NG/Military.


531 posted on 04/06/2006 10:21:55 AM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America and All who protect and preserve this Great Nation.)
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To: george wythe

I hope the House hangs tough.

Frist and most of the Republican Senators are as vile as the Dems. They should all be flushed.

This cockamamie scheme is unworkable and these lying panderers know it.

The sad thing about this is, like the tax issue during his Daddy's term, it will be used by the Dems against us in 2006 and 2008. The Repubs are being sucker-punched and don't even know it.


532 posted on 04/06/2006 10:22:00 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
Listen, I have heard the kind of crap coming from you my whole life. Tell me. What does an illegal look like? Give me a profile.

Then how do people know that illegals are so important to the agricultural and service industry if no one knows what one looks like?

Maybe none of the illegals are working at all.

533 posted on 04/06/2006 10:22:15 AM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas

Thats fine by me, since we don't have any use for open border trash like you.

Just go back to the DU and stay out of our hair.

If you can't tell a mexican worker then you are a moron, just don't tell us that we cannot, because we know that we can.
Get a quarter, buy a clue, get lost.


534 posted on 04/06/2006 10:22:16 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

The President is on live now touting the bill.

Very brief, no content.


535 posted on 04/06/2006 10:22:19 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (www.usbordersecurity.org)
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To: Dane
Yes, and it's becoming that way once again.

Just like the good old days, thanks to your border-hopping buddies and their enablers in the United States Senate.

536 posted on 04/06/2006 10:22:43 AM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: teawithmisswilliams

Saying "Deport" to the FROBLs is like shining light on a vampire. The response is hysterical screels of "Not possible!", "Can't do it!" and even "Not fair!" - kind of like mention of the Great American Wall.


537 posted on 04/06/2006 10:23:07 AM PDT by samcgwire (Hey, I VOTED for President "Better than Kerry"!)
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To: primeval patriot
As far as I know, restaurants don't have a right to a vast pool of cheap labor.

Too many businesses have this entitlement mentality

And you will set up your own central committe telling how people can run restaurants.

A hint, it was tried before in the place called the Soviet Union, and that place imploded.

538 posted on 04/06/2006 10:23:11 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: EternalVigilance
How is that any different from his standard speech?
539 posted on 04/06/2006 10:23:15 AM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: XJarhead
I understand and agree with your point that forcible deportation of 11-20 million legals is not going to happen. But I don't think you've really addressed some of the other ideas that people have brought up that would create some "self-deportation".

Last night the former head of immigration, Kris Kobach, under Ashcroft stated if employers were forced to verify each employer, and there was a fine for hiring illegals they would go home.
540 posted on 04/06/2006 10:23:17 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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