Joseph Sanchez, Long Beach resident brought out his son, Joseph Sanchez Jr., 4, to protest the HR3447 bill. (Tracey Roman / for the Press-Telegram)
Posted on 03/28/2006 2:06:57 PM PST by StoneColdGOP
Joseph Sanchez, Long Beach resident brought out his son, Joseph Sanchez Jr., 4, to protest the HR3447 bill. (Tracey Roman / for the Press-Telegram)
A protester holds up a sign that reads "Revolution is the solution" in spanish. (Tracey Roman / for the Press-Telegram)
School officials keep an eye on marching students as hundreds showed up to Montebello High School and urged those students to leave the school and protest against proposition HR 4437 on March 27, 2006, at the Montebello school. The Mexican flag was raised at the school by the protesting students, shown in the background. Students walked from El Rancho High School in Pico Rivera to Pioneer High School in Whittier, then on to Whittier High School, to Montebello High School and then to downtown Los Angeles. (Raul Roa/Staff photo)
Students protesting wave the Mexican flag as the crowd gathers at Cesar Chavez Park in Long Beach. (Tracey Roman / for the Press-Telegram)
Whittier area students from Pioneer, California and Whittier high schools walked out of classes to protest the proposed federal immigration bill March 27, 2006. The protestors put up the Mexican flag over the American flag flying upsidedown at Montebello High. (Leo Jarzomb/Staff photo)
Students from Marshall High School, Blair High, and Pasadena High School and Muir High School walked to the Pasadena Unified School District Headquarters in protest to denounce a federal legislative proposal that would criminalize illegal immigration and require building a 700-mile wall along the U.S.-Mexico border. (Walt Mancini/Staff photo)
Students holding the flag of Mexico, after the flag of Mexico was put on the flagpole, replacing the American flag and California Republic flag. Pasadena police chief Bernard Melekian with Pasadena police officer Mike Korpal place the flag of California Republic and the American flag to the flagpole at its proper height at Pasadena Unified School District headquarters. (Walt Mancini/Staff photo)
Area high school students raise the Mexican flag at the Montebello High School flag pole as they marched to the school to urge those students to also walk and protest against proposition HR 4437 on March 27, 2006, at the Montebello school. Students walked from El Rancho High School in Pico Rivera to Pioneer High School in Whittier, then on to Whittier High School, to Montebello High School and then to downtown Los Angeles. (Raul Roa/Staff photo)
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He's worse than a typical marxist goon. He will write the tickets an hour before the time that your car has to be off the street.
I am, if it comes to that.
The only rational answer that keeps the US the US is to assimilate these folks.
That may be the most asinine statement I've ever seen on FR. Assimilation won't keep the US the US. It will make the US Mexico.
Have you seen the demonstrations? Have you read their signs? Have you seen the Mexican flags?
Only an ass would think that these people will assimilate.
My wife picks winning horses the same way. Apply her logic and you don't know what to do. Follow her instincts and you win most of the time.
:)Easy Does It :)
yep, pretty depressing.
I was fairly disgusted so I took Sarah out for dinner and we discussed some things.
She's from Taiwan, but we are pretty sure there's no point in settling there. She busted her butt to get here (legally as a matter of fact!) and is convinced that the opportunities for a young couple there are limited.
Plus, it'll eventually be subsumed by Red China, so that doesn't seem like a real good destination for a young couple...hehe
I'm never going back to California.
Never.
We can stay here in Kansas, but California (Actually Northern Mexico) is rapidly coming here. While the Chinese will take Taiwan in a quick lil engagement, we Americans are more than likely to simply hand over America, or at least a good chunk of it.
So we talked about where to go....
That's the problem really, there is no where else to go.
There is no other America to flee to.
The best we could come up with is to work as hard as we can, save as much as we can, and stay out of urbanizing areas.
Granted, the taxes to support this "New America" will strain us, but if we can keep some distance, maybe we will be ok...
In a worst case scenario we can move to somewhere less urban.
I have some land in Kansas we can sell, but it's not much.
I'm finishing my Ph.D and currently teaching, so I don't have a lot of money.
She's finishing her MBA, so she's broke too.
hehe.... I know, it's not a pretty picture, two under-30 people working and going to school trying to make it in the "New America."
But we do work, we do live in a budget, we do follow the laws and the rules, so with God's grace hopefully we'll be able to find a place somewhere in what's left.
We actually discussed moving to Alaska, building a log cabin and living "off-the-books" ...hehe,
but I don't know if such a thing is even possible anymore.
In any event, we'll just keep keepin' on, and look out for ourselves.
God knows our government isn't looking out for law abiding, working/middle class folks anymore.
I'm trying real hard not to be incredibly pissed at what I see happening in my country.
I wasn't around back then, but I get the feeling that people once felt the same rage that I feel when they turned on the tv and saw spoiled collge kids burn our flag and spit on our soldiers.
I'd like to see sources cited for that statement.
You and me both. I watched the illegals destroy the neighborhood where I raised my family. And now they're blocking the freeways I have to use for my commute back to a safer place to live.
Spain held it longer but Spain is not Mexico...today's Mexican actually 'stole' it from Spain via revolution...maybe they should give it back to it's rightful owners....
People only hear what they want to hear in order to justify their means to an end...
They certainly wont admit to the truth...as the truth does not provide them with the rationale they will need to do what it is they desire to do to us Americans given half a chance...
Our leaders our perfectly willing to give them that chance as long as our leaders feel theses bastardos will keep them in power given a chance...
imo
You are so right.
I voted for that man twice so that he could insult me and tell me I'm a lazy American -- that hard-working Americans aren't the backbone of this country -- the invaders are the backbone. Sheesh, thanks Bush. You're sending my son to Iraq -- why don't you send these Mexican's to Iraq? After all, aren't they willing to do what American's are incapable of doing? Beats me how Bush can call American's lazy, but send them to war.
I think they're just trying out their arguments before they take them to their high school students.
You said violation of sovereignty, same thing. But fair enough, I did confuse you with someone else.
But fine, they're invaders.
So this includes the turtle smuggler? And which of the four options are you claiming applies.
Now as to reduced costs, just because you and your family aren't getting the benefits, doesn't mean they aren't there for the country. Are you disputing that immigrants do the same labor at severely reduced price?
As for taxes we do have a war on our hands. And we do have a problem with the growing amound of Social Security and Medicare costs due to a larger proportion of the population being retired. This problem will get far worse in the future, which brings us to the need to bring in more younger workers.
And what does this nation gain from the five billion in cash sent out of the country?
It gains nothing, but allowing the workers to become citizens and bring in their families will solve that problem...*time for me to put on an extra pair of flame retarding underwear*
If I drive my car at speed across the border with Mexico...
Mexico has different laws to suit different problems. They have a surplus of labor we have a deficit, so there's more pressure for keeping foreigners out.
As for the gain, unlike Europe and Japan we get demographics which aren't diproportionately filled with greedy aging geezers; who's primary concern when voting is with getting the biggest check from the government. If you think your taxes are bad due to healthcare for illegals, wait until that bomb goes off.
I can see it very clearly now. Thank you for connecting the dots. Amazing that a US Senator is willing to so obviously collude with foreign nationals to undermine our sovereignty. But it's not a first in her family.
We tried to comprimise 20 years ago, and that is exactly what put us in the current fix.
The citizens of the United States of America ARE unified on the solution. It's called HR 4437. It's backed, in principle, by 70% of our citizens (that's as close to 'unified' as you will ever see in a democracy). We are being ignored, on purpose, by the United States Senate that is sworn to do the bidding of We the People at the behest of the Chamber of Commerce, the Mexican Government, and the UN.
It is gross deriliction of duty on the part of the Senate that is at issue here, not a lack of unity among the American people. Anyone politician, or any political party, that thinks they will get a 'pass' on this is sorely mistaken.
A goldcard/guest worker program will let us screen just fine. As for lower numbers, I simply disagree with you and think we do need the same numbers.
My comment was made under the assumption that we would since we're having a legal vs. illegal. If you want lower numbers then that's a different topic. Just don't claim to be that you're only against 'illegal' immigration.
Maybe Bush should send Laura and the girls out here to live for a couple of months. See how they like it.
With any luck, they'll even get to see another one of these dirtbag mobs in the hundreds of thousands.
Maybe they'll learn something from the experience and report back to the "president" of the "United States."
I really could care less what the democrats are doing...
I am concerned with what my senator, Sam Brownback, is doing..
It's hard to blame everything in the world on the Democratic party, especially since we have been running this congress since 1994, and the White House since 2000.
To be perfectly honest, the Democrats would sell us out to the Illegal Immigrant Lobby immediately.
The Republicans will delay it for a few committee votes.
Either way, we are getting the shaft, the timing is simply details...
Most of 'em are paid by check, you should see the lines at the local casinos here. Standing in line with their whole family.
And I'm sure the employers involved would rather not be involved in an obvious attempt to circumvent laws. The small ones maybe, but most of the casinos here in town employ illegals. So do the electrical contractors, telephone contractors, etc.
These are the jobs that american's don't want. If it's anything I love it's them working at MY trade for $8 an hour.
The other day I asked one of that crew for a circuit, and was told, "Wait please, I don't speak english, I'll go get the american." !?!
I emailed mine right after you posted this and still haven't got a reply. Lord, I hope he doesn't send me another letter with a photo! oooops.
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