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Slain Minister's Wife to Be Charged With Murder
Fox News ^ | March 24, 2006

Posted on 03/24/2006 8:28:46 AM PST by Blogger

Slain Minister's Wife to Be Charged With Murder Friday, March 24, 2006 MEMPHIS, Tenn. — The wife of a Tennessee pastor found shot dead in his house Wednesday will face first-degree murder charges, authorities announced Friday.

Mary Winklerwas found Thursday night with the couple's three daughters in Orange Beach, Ala., about 400 miles south of their home in Selmer.

Investigators with the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation said she was interviewed during the night and the charges were being prepared.

"We've interviewed her and she was cooperative," said Jennifer Johnson of the TBI, adding that once a warrant with the charges was drawn up, extradition proceedings would begin to have her returned to Tennessee.

Matthew Winkler was found shot to death in the bedroom of his parsonage Wednesday by church members who began searching for him after he failed to show up at an evening event at Selmer's Church of Christ.

Police said there were no signs of forced entry, but Winkler's wife and children — Breanna, 1; Mary Alice, 6; and Patricia, 8 — were gone.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: banglist; churchofchrist; deathcultivation; homicide; marywinkler; matthewwinkler; minister; pastor; tennessee; winkler
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To: OrangeDaisy
Yes, the CoC does serve the Lord's Supper (communion) every Sunday. I am no expert on Baptist beliefs, but this is what I think other differences are. The CoC believes you have to be baptized to be added to the church, for remmission of sins and to be saved (Mark 15:15-16). Some branches of the Baptist church may also believe this (maybe Missionary Baptists?), but I'm not sure the standard Southern Baptists do. Some Baptists believe the Calvinistic doctrine "once saved always saved." They don't believe a christian can stray if they truly have accepted Christ. And of course the use of instrumental music in worship.

The Missionary Baptists believe once saved always saved, but I don't think they believe in forced baptism. FreeWill Baptists believe you can fall from grace.

661 posted on 03/28/2006 5:45:08 PM PST by beckysueb (Smoke 'em if you got ,em!)
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To: MayflowerMadam
Instrumental music in worship -- definitely "yes" for us Baptists.

And wonderful music it is, too!

662 posted on 03/28/2006 5:46:47 PM PST by beckysueb (Smoke 'em if you got ,em!)
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To: colt fan man
your religion says that ONLY C of C'ers can go to heaven,

The Bible says only members of Christ's church can be saved. It has nothing to do with the name on the building. We are a group of christians who meet together. We put the words church of Christ on the building where we meet so that we have a way to let people know where we meet. I know there are people everywhere who have been baptized and are saved. They may or may not put the name church of Christ on the building where they meet. The may or may not even have a building!

"He that believes and is baptized shall be saved. He that believes not shall be condemned." Mark 15: 15-16.

And yes, Mary Winkler can still be saved. Jeffrey Dahmer was baptized in prison. If he truly repented of his sins, he will be in heaven too.

Brethren, if anyone among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back, let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save a soul from death and cover a multitude of sins. James 5:19-20

663 posted on 03/28/2006 6:08:28 PM PST by OrangeDaisy
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To: connectthedots

REPOSTED DUE TO AVOIDANCE BY C of C'ers TO ANSWER

jk and other C of C'ers,

jk who wrote: "The only way Mary can be forgiven her sins is to confess them to God and have a truly repentant heart."

...your religion says that ONLY C of C'ers can go to heaven, and all who are not will go to hell

...so let me get this straight, someone who is a C of C'er will be forgiven for their sins and go to "heaven" if they are "truly repentant", even if they say kidnapped, raped and killed ten young girls?, and if the ten young girls are not C of C'ers, then they will go to hell?.....is this correct??

...and you still think you are not in a cult??


664 posted on 03/28/2006 6:09:33 PM PST by colt fan man
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To: ruthles

Musical instruments are not used in CoC worship because the Bible does not say to use them.


665 posted on 03/28/2006 6:16:08 PM PST by pnz1
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To: OrangeDaisy

orange daisy,

you wrote: "He that believes and is baptized shall be saved. He that believes not shall be condemned."

...what a load of crap, and con artist sales pitch that is...sorta like: "either be one of us, or you go to hell"...gimme a break...all churches sell the SAME thing - the afterlife, yet none of you can prove it

...but what is really dispicable is how your church preaches that the serial killers go to heaven if he is one of you, and repents, YET his innocent victims "go to hell" simply because they were not a member of your cult, even tho they may have lived an honest life?!...try asking some tough questions of your messed up church, instead of being brainwashed


666 posted on 03/28/2006 6:22:54 PM PST by colt fan man
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To: colt fan man

I don't think our church has ever said anyone is "going to hell" -that's for God to judge, not us.


667 posted on 03/28/2006 6:26:59 PM PST by pnz1
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To: colt fan man

"so let me get this straight, someone who is a C of C'er will be forgiven for their sins if they are "truly repentant", even if they say kidnapped, raped and killed ten young girls?, and if the ten young girls are not C of C'ers, then they will go to hell?.....is this correct?? "

Why are you singling out the Church of Christ? The above is the true belief of most Christians.

Why do you care where Christians think your soul is headed if what they say isn't true? Does it matter? Does it change anything? No.

They're not threatening you. Let them believe what they wish.


668 posted on 03/28/2006 6:30:14 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: ruthles
Actually Church of Christ has been categorized as a cult, I forget by which organization, but a reputable Christian one.

And Free Republic has been categorized a cult by a reputable political organization.

There is a group called the International Church of Christ, (formerly the Crossroads & Boston Church of Christ) that have been shown to be cult-like because people come in with different personality-types, but they all converge to the same personality type. Google ["International Church of Christ" cult] if you are interested. That is not the church of Christ that the Winklers are associated with. I wish you could cite the name of your reputable Christian organization so I could read for myself what they said.

They do not allow instruments to be played because of some Psalme that says "raise your VOICES".

We do not use instrumental music because there is no New Testament example of it. We are instructed to sing and make melody in your hearts (Eph 5:19), and admonish one another in psalms, hymns and spiritual songs (Col 3:16). Instrumental music was not added to a worship service until hundreds of years after Christ died. Christ's church in its pure form did not use instruments to worship. Why do we need to improve upon it?

669 posted on 03/28/2006 6:30:17 PM PST by OrangeDaisy
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To: GourmetDan

You made some very good points.


670 posted on 03/28/2006 6:30:40 PM PST by beckysueb (Smoke 'em if you got ,em!)
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To: colt fan man

You seem quite intolerant of others' beliefs.


671 posted on 03/28/2006 6:31:41 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: beckysueb
re: your story about the woman who killed and injured her kids:

Was she ON the Prozac, or had she recently stopped? Many people who take antidepressants will start to feel "better" and d/c the meds. Many then become psychotic (ok, maybe not clinically, but still wacko). Whenever I hear stories of people on meds who do these horrible crimes (not that we know that about this family) I often wonder when they actually took their last pill. They don't understand the chemical dependence / withdrawal.

SAFETY NOTE: If you are on antidepressants and decide to stop taking them, CONTACT YOUR DOCTOR FIRST! Be sure to tell those near and dear that you are stopping. Know the signs!!!!
672 posted on 03/28/2006 6:34:12 PM PST by blu (People, for God's sake, think for yourselves!)
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To: Rte66

Just like that stupid news bimbo. Hear glowing remarks all over the place about Matthew and one newshound wanting to feel important says something totally different and the info-idiot believes the troublemaker.


673 posted on 03/28/2006 6:35:34 PM PST by beckysueb (Smoke 'em if you got ,em!)
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To: blu

Greta says she will have "new details" on Mary Winkler.


674 posted on 03/28/2006 6:36:21 PM PST by pnz1
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To: yukong
She has mental problems it would seem.

Or practicing for her trial.

675 posted on 03/28/2006 6:37:39 PM PST by beckysueb (Smoke 'em if you got ,em!)
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To: colt fan man
I didn't write "He that believes and is baptized shall be saved. He that believes not shall be condemned." Mark, an apostle, wrote it. I just transcribed it into my post.

you wrote: all churches sell the SAME thing - the afterlife, yet none of you can prove it

I should have realized before now. So are you atheist or agnostic? We might as well all stop now if you don't believe the Bible is the inspired word of God. It's like trying to prove a thereom in Geometry without believing the definitions of point, line and plane! Someone wiser than I will have to debate you on the existence of God.

676 posted on 03/28/2006 6:40:18 PM PST by OrangeDaisy
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To: colt fan man
Are you a member of an organized religion? I'm not asking to attack or condemn, just wondering what your frame of reference is.
My religion has heaven, hell and purgatory. There's a short list of things that gets one the e-ticket to hell, purgatory is where we pay for our sins, and heaven is the reward. Your scenario would fit better here, I think. I'm not an expert.
677 posted on 03/28/2006 6:48:48 PM PST by blu (People, for God's sake, think for yourselves!)
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To: beckysueb
The Missionary Baptists believe once saved always saved, but I don't think they believe in forced baptism. FreeWill Baptists believe you can fall from grace.

I have a friend who was raised in the Free Will Baptist church, but later was baptized in the church of Christ. She says except for the instrumental music, she does not recall a difference in their teachings. Of course she was a child and and very young adult during her FWB years, and young people aren't always interested in the details.

The image that "forced baptism" brings to mind. I promise I've never seen anybody dragged down the aisle and forcibly dunked. LOL!

678 posted on 03/28/2006 6:51:03 PM PST by OrangeDaisy
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To: blu
Was she ON the Prozac, or had she recently stopped? Many people who take antidepressants will start to feel "better" and d/c the meds. Many then become psychotic (ok, maybe not clinically, but still wacko). Whenever I hear stories of people on meds who do these horrible crimes (not that we know that about this family) I often wonder when they actually took their last pill. They don't understand the chemical dependence / withdrawal.

I don't really know. The paper said she had been taking Prozac. Its possible that this happened.

679 posted on 03/28/2006 6:55:53 PM PST by beckysueb (Smoke 'em if you got ,em!)
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To: OrangeDaisy
The image that "forced baptism" brings to mind. I promise I've never seen anybody dragged down the aisle and forcibly dunked. LOL!

LOL Bad choice of words! LOL

680 posted on 03/28/2006 6:57:35 PM PST by beckysueb (Smoke 'em if you got ,em!)
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