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Imagine my surprise!

Would this fall into the "pot calling the kettle black" category?

1 posted on 02/13/2006 4:55:16 AM PST by seanmerc
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Carter's idiocy knows no bounds.

The man is a disgrace...and never should've come close to the presidency.


2 posted on 02/13/2006 4:56:33 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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But Carter loves communist dictatorship. Why would he authorize warrantless wiretaps unless VN had a beef with Cuba?


4 posted on 02/13/2006 4:58:15 AM PST by saveliberty ( :-) I am a Snowflake and Bushbot.)
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. In its opinion, the court said the executive branch has the "inherent authority" to wiretap enemies such as terror plotters and is excused from obtaining warrants when surveillance is "conducted 'primarily' for foreign intelligence reasons." That description, some Republicans say, perfectly fits the Bush administration's program to monitor calls from terror-linked people to the U.S. The Truong case, however, involved surveillance that began in 1977, before the enactment of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), which established a secret court for granting foreign intelligence warrants.

Carter signed FISA - however, the "inherent authority" was not his to give away, since it is a constitutional power of the executive - just as SCOTUS did not allow Congress to give the President a line-item veto without amending the Constitution.

In a way, this is a good debate - it is educating people about the nature of the relationship of powers between the various branches of government. And it is showing how the Dems politicize everything.

HOWEVER, the middle of wartime is NOT the time to be having such a debate!!!!

5 posted on 02/13/2006 4:58:16 AM PST by dirtboy (I'm fat, I sleep most of the winter and I saw my shadow yesterday. Does that make me a groundhog?)
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"If al Qaeda is calling you ... we'd like to know why."

'Nuff said.

7 posted on 02/13/2006 5:06:43 AM PST by The G Man (The Red States ... the world's only hope for survival.)
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Even the ugly peanut man can get little girls to sit in his lap..
8 posted on 02/13/2006 5:08:35 AM PST by Beth528
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Does Jimmy even know what the USS Jimmy Carter can do ?

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-529826.html

Some outside analysts and U.S. intelligence officials think the NSA should abandon such efforts in favor of more narrowly targeted intelligence-gathering efforts. One intelligence official estimates that tapping all the world's undersea cables, assuming it could be done, would cost more than $2 billion a year. And no one knows whether the NSA will ever have enough computing power to analyze the resulting gusher of digital data.

Even so, the agency has been pushing ahead. At General Dynamics' Electric Boat shipyard in Groton, Conn., the Navy is deep into a five-year, $1 billion retrofit of the USS Jimmy Carter, a nuclear-powered vessel that intelligence experts say will be the premier U.S. spy sub when it hits the seas in 2004. Among its many planned features, says one former official familiar with the project: state-of-the-art technology for undersea fiber-optic taps.

The NSA's Lt. Gen. Hayden and Navy officials decline to comment on the USS Jimmy Carter's mission.

9 posted on 02/13/2006 5:10:12 AM PST by COUNTrecount
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No... more like the cashew calling the macadamia... NUTS.
10 posted on 02/13/2006 5:15:41 AM PST by johnny7 (“Iuventus stultorum magister”)
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So I wonder why Jimmy did not get a warrant? It's inexplicable.

Is it too late to impeach him?


11 posted on 02/13/2006 5:20:21 AM PST by Brilliant
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Jimmy Carter: the least qualified and most unsuccessful American President in modern times...and undeniably the worst past-President of all times.

A true embarrassment to the Democratic party if not all Americans.


12 posted on 02/13/2006 5:20:26 AM PST by O6ret
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BUMP


13 posted on 02/13/2006 5:21:23 AM PST by kitkat
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Multiple repeat of various articles.


14 posted on 02/13/2006 5:30:36 AM PST by em2vn
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Administration officials say the president has constitutional authority to conduct surveillance without warrants in the name of national security. The only way Congress could legitimately curtail that authority, they argue, is through an amendment to the Constitution. The administration's view has been shared by previous Democrat administrations, including Mr. Carter's.

The article never backs up the claim that Carter ever agreed that Congress doesn't have poewr to regulate the President's authority.

17 posted on 02/13/2006 2:46:05 PM PST by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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. In its opinion, the court said the executive branch has the "inherent authority" to wiretap enemies such as terror plotters and is excused from obtaining warrants when surveillance is "conducted 'primarily' for foreign intelligence reasons." That description, some Republicans say, perfectly fits the Bush administration's program to monitor calls from terror-linked people to the U.S. The Truong case, however, involved surveillance that began in 1977, before the enactment of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), which established a secret court for granting foreign intelligence warrants.

Carter signed FISA - however, the "inherent authority" was not his to give away, since it is a constitutional power of the executive - just as SCOTUS did not allow Congress to give the President a line-item veto without amending the Constitution.

In a way, this is a good debate - it is educating people about the nature of the relationship of powers between the various branches of government. And it is showing how the Dems politicize everything.

HOWEVER, the middle of wartime is NOT the time to be having such a debate!!!!

29 posted on 02/13/2006 5:02:51 PM PST by dirtboy (I'm fat, I sleep most of the winter and I saw my shadow yesterday. Does that make me a groundhog?)
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You have to admit, it is kind of ironic that the Rats have been relegated to turning coffins into soap boxes of intellectual dishonesty and outright Bovine Excrement.


40 posted on 02/13/2006 8:55:17 PM PST by DoNotDivide (Romans 12:21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.)
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bump


41 posted on 02/13/2006 8:56:31 PM PST by GOPJ (If Dems had courage, they could have "the courage of their convictions", if they had convictions.)
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BOOKMARK...


45 posted on 02/14/2006 6:41:02 AM PST by Preachin' (Enoch's testimony was that he pleased God: Why are we still here?)
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Ha! You mean the ugly face of the democrats has been outprecedented again?


48 posted on 02/14/2006 4:55:39 PM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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Bookmark to read later...


59 posted on 02/15/2006 5:39:04 AM PST by DocRock
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Peanuthead is afraid of bunny rabbits. What else could we expect from such a character?


66 posted on 02/15/2006 6:27:19 AM PST by CodeToad
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I like Griffin Bell. He's a conservative who supported Bush in both 2000 and 2004.


84 posted on 02/16/2006 2:24:39 PM PST by Revenge of Sith
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