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11-Month-Old Girl Loses Her Ear To A Pit Bull
CBS News ^ | 1/25/06

Posted on 01/26/2006 12:00:29 PM PST by iPod Shuffle

11-Month-Old Girl Loses Her Ear To A Pit Bull

(CBS) PALMDALE, Calif. An 11-month-old girl was in stable condition Wednesday but doctors were unable to reattach her ear that had been torn off when she was attacked by a pit bull, according to a Palmdale police lieutenant.

The girl was attacked by a 3- to 4-year-old male pit bull terrier at a home in the 2900 block of East Avenue R-13 about 1 p.m. Monday, according to the Antelope Valley Press.

The girl's injuries were mostly around her face, including a detached ear. That ear was shipped to UCLA Medical Center where doctors were going to try to reattach it, but were unable to, according to Lt. Don Ford of the Palmdale Station.

The infant was with her aunt who had gone to visit friends. The dog, who had had no problem with the girl on previous visits, attacked her without provocation. There had been no previous problems with the dog, Ford said.

The animal was euthanized at the Lancaster Animal Shelter.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: animals; doggieping; dogofpeace; maul; mauledbypitbull; pets; pitbull
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To: HairOfTheDog
"With the fatal and near fatal mauling automobile accident statistics in mind, can any sane person, looking at all the kinds of dogs cars out there, say that pit bull type dogs SUV's are "Particularly good with children"?
141 posted on 01/26/2006 8:53:29 PM PST by endthematrix (None dare call it ISLAMOFACISM!)
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To: pcottraux
Still, there are plenty of Muslim terrorists and Islamic extremists who are not Arabic. To assume so would be to say that Arabs are the only ethnic group in the Middle East (which they are not).

Your point "A" and point "B" don't really relate.

Many, if not most, Muslim terrorists are not Arabic, but they are not middle easterners either. (Think Phillipines, Thailand, and Indonesia, for starters, then throw in sub-Saharan Africa.

On the other hand, you have Muslim terrorists who are Arabs, but not middle easterners. (Algerians would probably fall into that group, since Algeria is usually classified as "Near East".) And don't forget the European Muslim terrorists who were defended by the US and NATO.

For non-Arabic Islamic middle easterners, your universe is quite small, and only a tiny fraction of them are terrorists.

142 posted on 01/26/2006 8:54:26 PM PST by PAR35
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To: PAR35
Your point "A" and point "B" don't really relate.

Actually, you've just proven my point. Here is the original statement:

Not all arabs are terrorist, but almost all terrorist acts are performed by arabs...do the math

I disagreed with that statement. As you have so kindly pointed out, it is at the very least a gross oversimplification.
143 posted on 01/26/2006 8:59:53 PM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: endthematrix

Well, how many more "Aw, the poor doggy had a bad owner" comments about these canine monsters can one take?


144 posted on 01/26/2006 9:14:10 PM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: pcottraux

Even though I love my dogs more than I love some humans I know, I have to agree with you. Animals have no morals... and neither do some people. Animals have that excuse for their so-called evil doings. People don't.


145 posted on 01/26/2006 10:48:30 PM PST by republican4ever
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To: republican4ever

I'm glad someone agrees.

REally, that's kind of the founding principle behind animal rights activism. It tries to put a human face on animals, because they're so cute and cuddly and whatever (have you noticed animal rights activism only protests the harming of cute animals like dolphins?).

But animals and humans are inherently different things. There is a gulf between us. We do ourselves, and them, no favor by trying to cross that gulf.


146 posted on 01/26/2006 10:57:23 PM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: DTogo
Note the heavy-duty choker chain, with inward-facing spikes, in the picture...

Yeah, I always feel really comfortable around a dog that has one of those things on it's neck. If that's what it takes to control an animal, the owners can tell me till their blue in the face what a wonderful pet they have and how it wouldn't hurt a flea, and ya know what? I won't believe them!

147 posted on 01/27/2006 5:35:10 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Sterco
I was watching Animal Cops (I think that's the name) and they were in Detroit and said that Detroit has a policy that whenever pitbulls are involved, they are always put down because they so often cannot be rehabilitated. If a city is going to institute a policy like that, there has to be some justification for people's fear of the dog and accusations of it's character.
148 posted on 01/27/2006 5:38:49 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
I ran into some people walking their HUGE Rottweiler in a harness instead of any kind of a collar. That was scary because the dog was literally dragging both people around. They had absolutely no control of their dog.

I asked why they didn't have a choke collar on their dog and they said they didn't want to hurt him. I got my much smaller dog away just as quick as possible before the Rott decided to eat both of us.

There would have been nothing the couple could have done to stop it, unless one of them had a gun it their pocket.
149 posted on 01/27/2006 5:44:02 AM PST by Ditter
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To: GBA
Though they've never been trained for it, I see a lot of "instinctive" behavior in my bird dogs, so that argument sounds reasonable to me, too.

Ever watch a Border collie try to herd cars, or a horse that kicks back? They suffer the consequences and go back for more. You just can't stop them from trying.

150 posted on 01/27/2006 5:45:17 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: iPod Shuffle

When my son was a newborn, my mother's Bouvier was very threatend and startled easily around my baby. The dog was nervous and would pace and growl around my baby. Within a month's time, my mother had the dog euthanized, with the veterinarian agreeing that a frightened dog can be very dangerous around children. My mother believes that the chosing the dog over her grandson was the right thing to do.


151 posted on 01/27/2006 5:48:53 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife ("Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny. "--Aeschylus)
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To: Conservababe

I can see that that marriage won't be lasting long. If my husband fought for his dog over his daughter and told me to keep the kid away from the dog, he'd be mighty surprised to find out just how far away I'd keep her; like another city. This guy has major control freak issues and she's nuts for staying with him. How much more does he think she can control a toddlers every action than he can control that dog? This isn't the first case I've heard of about Dalmations being nasty either by a long shot.


152 posted on 01/27/2006 5:59:24 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: dervish

No one said wolves aren't good pack animals. Your post is word salad.


153 posted on 01/27/2006 6:15:34 AM PST by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/ 1,000 knives and counting!)
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To: endthematrix
"With the fatal and near fatal mauling automobile accident statistics in mind, can any sane person, looking at all the kinds of dogs cars out there, say that pit bull type dogs SUV's are "Particularly good with children"?

What a ridiculous analogy. And absolutely the opposite is true. There is no statistics that SUV accidents are more fatal to the occupants, in fact, their larger weight often makes them safer than little cars. You want a good analogy... see how long a car stays on the market that explodes even semi frequently and bursts into flames without cause.

154 posted on 01/27/2006 6:19:32 AM PST by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/ 1,000 knives and counting!)
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To: metmom
Note the heavy-duty choker chain, with inward-facing spikes, in the picture...

Yeah, I always feel really comfortable around a dog that has one of those things on it's neck. If that's what it takes to control an animal, the owners can tell me till their blue in the face what a wonderful pet they have and how it wouldn't hurt a flea, and ya know what? I won't believe them!

You know why I'd believe them? Because I respect that they are people who believe in training their dog, not being yanked around by a rambunctious dog while they plead for the dog to heel. It's called a pinch collar. They work well on large dogs because you don't have to be rough with them and you don't need brute strength to have nice responsive reactions to leash corrections. I would much rather see people using a pinch collar softly than a dog that lunges at the end of a leash with a leather collar, or a dog that will choke himself with a regular choker.

Pinch collars are used by many many people in training their dogs... I use them and swear by them for training big dogs without a lot of brute force. They aren't 'spikes' really, and they don't so much hurt as they do mimic the feeling on the neck they'd feel when their mother, or a dominant dog, plotzes them by holding them by the back of the neck. They don't work because they hurt (they don't) they work because they speak to a part of the dog's psyche that they instinctively understand.

Please do something for me... next time you are at a pet store go to one of these collars, put it around your leg and yank on it. I'm serious. They do ~NOT~ hurt like you think they do. They are psychological to the dog, not cruel.

155 posted on 01/27/2006 6:30:23 AM PST by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/ 1,000 knives and counting!)
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To: Ditter

see my 155... I meant to ping you :~D


156 posted on 01/27/2006 6:31:28 AM PST by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/ 1,000 knives and counting!)
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To: HairOfTheDog

Good explanation on pinch collars.


157 posted on 01/27/2006 6:57:46 AM PST by GBA
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To: GBA

Thanks... I hate to see people say untrue things because they just don't know the truth.


158 posted on 01/27/2006 7:04:05 AM PST by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/ 1,000 knives and counting!)
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To: pcottraux

You seem to keep ignoring my many statements that I don't want breed legislation.


I hate the Gov molesting people for things that aren't violating any1 else's rights (like molestation for no-seat-belt BS).

So it is unnecessary for you to tell me that the concern is about government.


159 posted on 01/27/2006 7:05:08 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: dervish

"a dog with one of those feckless flexileads. Now those things scare me."


http://www.dogsecrets.com/articles/a_4.html


Finally I found a trainer (besides my own local) who speaks up about these dumb things.

To me, since they started out in the '80s, it is the sign of a cuckolded owner who is mastered by the dog.


The other week, in fact, at NIGHT, I was driving home in the neighborhood and suddenly I vaguely see a form in front of me, then goes off to the right - an Irish Setter let to go out in the street thanks to 1 of these dip-!$#!@#% "leads" by the idiot on the sidewalk. And of course, sidewalks are generally only 4 ft from roads.

If I had been going faster I may have hit him. They were all in dark, to boot, so I barely saw him - mostly realized what it was after the fact!


160 posted on 01/27/2006 7:18:20 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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